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A Dark, Forboding Supreme Court Building


CBS reports that Idaho Will Sue If Health Care Bill Passes.
The Virginia attorney General has similar plans.
The rogue five right wing radical extremists who are running the reputation of the Supreme Court into cesspool territory could decide on whether the congressional vote on Health Care goes into law.
They crowned George Bush president, brazenly violating separations of powers laws. They turned the use election system into a corporatocracy, corruption the election process, perhaps irreparably. It may seem unlikely that the Supreme court would try to over-rule congress-- that it would go against the constitution's separation of powers rules. But the radical Supreme Court right wingers have already proven that they don't respect precedent or the constitution. Some of them, like Alito and Roberts, lied their way into their jobs, testifying they would not engage in legislation from the bench, that they would respect Stare Decisis. Some have called for their impeachment because of those lies-- not likely with Nancy Pelosi running the House.
I asked a few attorneys their take. Here's the question I presented to them:
I'm working on an article speculating that the supreme court could ultimately decide whether the obama healthcare legislation is enacted.
Two state Attorney generals have already said they'll sue the government if it passes. After the activism we've already seen from the SCOTUS, it would not be beyond the imagination for them to accept the case, then rule that the process the Democratic congress used was unconstitutional-- since they seem to have no problem breeching the bounds of separation of powers. What's your take?
Michael Ratner, attorney and president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, one of the first attorneys to defend Guantanamo prisoners , replied,
"I don't know the issue that well But as bad as Roberts is and much of the court, the general rule is that they will not interfere in how the Congress conducts itself on these matters---so I don't think such a suit would be successful. "
I asked the same question of Marjorie Cohn, immediate past president of the National Lawyers Guild, and she replied,
The Court will strike down laws Congress passes but I doubt it would get involved in micromanaging how Congress does its business.
I countered with this question, " And would you have said the same thing before the SCOTUS handed Bush the presidency?"
Ratner replied, with his last remark, perhaps, being the most telling.,
"Not really the same taking on this health bill--assuming it passes-- would be a direct interference with how congress does its business and an intervention would be very unusual to say the least on that issue
But of course everything is up for grabs with this court.
And Cohn replied,
Bush v Gore was an anomaly and didn't involve getting into how Congress does its business. The AGs can file their suits but I doubt the Court will hear the case. I could be wrong.
I put the two questions, combined, to attorney Andrew Kreig, executive director of the Justice Integrity Project, who replied,
"I agree. Bush v gore is the new legal standard and there is scant fight in most of the so called liberals, who are really centrists.
It's hard for some of these attorneys to imagine justices on the Supreme Court breaking precedent, breaking legal standards and even violating the constitution, but clearly, not entirely beyond the range of possibilities they consider.

Jane Hamsher reports there are 36 challenges to the bill already. She told me, in an interview, that Virginia already passed a law, challenging the law, saying they would not abide by the mandate. "There are at least five states" Hamsher reports, "That will challenge it. It's going to be the Gay Marriage of 2010. "

Hamsher's "Gay Marriage of 2010" take is a political one. But the right wing uses claws and fangs to go for the kill. They've used the five troglodyte majority they have on the Supreme Court to dismantle century old precedent. I think they'll try to castrate the Democratic congress's health reform bill-- they've been incredibly effective at making the Senate Democrats impotent already.

The movement of the right towards taking health reform to the Supreme court has already started with the lawsuits and laws passed challenging the legislation. This WILL be on the table, whether the Democrats like it or not, whether it has been done before, whether it is legal or not. The Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy axis of right wing evil has shown they care not about precedent and are willing to re-draft huge volumes of the constitution. They have shown themselves to be willing and able to be dangerous to democracy and the separation of powers.

They have gone this way because Obama, Pelosi and the Democratic leaders have proven to be spineless in the face of high level crime and corruption. Alito should at least be questioned, with hearings held, considering impeachment, for lying to congress about his stare decesis intentions. It is not too late to visit the illegal actions of Bush appointees like Leura Canary and others in the DOJ. If the Democrats don't fight back hard, we will see the power the electorate endowed them with melt away. Power unused is not just power abdicated and thrown away. The failure to use Power given by the people is a betrayal of the people's faith and trust. When power is given and un-used the people have every reason not to trust those to who it was endowed.


The Democrats have a bit more than six months to find and use the power they were given-- no more excuses about filibusters, no more explanations that they are there to govern. They must act and not react. They must strike boldly against the right wingers who have, so far, neutralized and overcome them. They can do it, but it requires leadership that we have not yet seen. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi must appoint political Generals to engage in battle. I leave Obama out because at this point, knowing he cut a deal to kill the public option, I consider him a player who cannot be trusted as an ally.

 

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This ttime I agree by Mark Sashine on Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:22:56 PM
At this point... by Rob Kall on Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:29:37 PM
Let's hope not! by William Cormier on Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:11:38 PM
Agenda by Marika on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:45:14 AM
Negating statements? by Recce1 on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:16:09 PM
Reforms by Miriam Callaghan on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:41:49 PM
That might be a very good thing! by Roger on Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:38:59 PM
There will be blood.... by William Cormier on Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:45:32 PM
If the Supreme Court by Michael Shaw on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:48:52 PM
The Supreme Court by John Shriver on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:10:12 PM
Only states can pass laws? by Recce1 on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:23:26 PM
Only states can pass laws? by John Shriver on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:12:36 AM
Good recovery by Recce1 on Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:42:44 PM
They haven't ruled against a corporation yet by thepen on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:27:12 AM
Thank you for an excellent article! by Nathan Nahm on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:36:39 AM
Excellent Analysis! by William Cormier on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:50:03 AM
It's too late....this country is finished. by 911TRUTH on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:09:11 PM
Oh those nasty drones by Recce1 on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:26:28 PM
Not at all....... by 911TRUTH on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:31:01 PM
public outrage and civil disobedience by John Shriver on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:22:01 PM
It seems to me,... by John Sanchez Jr. on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:59:13 AM
Supreme court smackdown by Rob Kall on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:21:16 AM
You're quite correct... by John Sanchez Jr. on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:40:51 PM
Will Supreme Court Kill the Obama Health Care Reform Plan? by Techknowledgie on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:12:03 PM
Buying Insurance by charles mcgee on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:15:48 PM
All I can say is by Michael Shaw on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:16:07 PM
We can only hope they do as the Constitution Requires by Miriam Callaghan on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:38:13 PM
Religious groups are already infringing on the Constitution by William Cormier on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:17:18 PM
You miss the point by Miriam Callaghan on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:31:39 PM
I appreciate your point of view, however... by William Cormier on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:03:16 PM
2 for one by Miriam Callaghan on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:57:40 PM
I am not demanding anything! Stop Medicare Fraud! by William Cormier on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:29:41 AM
BTW by William Cormier on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:08:45 PM
Of Course! And A Good Thing Too! by tomj on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:12:43 PM
They may do so with that pretense,... by John Sanchez Jr. on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:12:18 PM
The individual mandate IS unconstitutional by Carol Thompson on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:33:58 PM
No, it is NOT by Techknowledgie on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:20:46 PM
Oops by Techknowledgie on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:32:24 PM
The Supreme Court Issue by John Shriver on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:41:28 PM
Goodies and Shiny Things! by Techknowledgie on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:30:18 PM
Goodies and shiny things by John Shriver on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:49:12 AM
Kall on separation of powers by Carl Reynolds on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:57:30 PM
SCOTUS has proven they are Liars and cannot be trusted by William Cormier on Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:15:05 PM
Name the lies by Recce1 on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:11:26 PM
Poll: Americans reject Supremes' ruling by William Cormier on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31:47 AM
Unconstitutional? by Bryan Emmel on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:21:19 AM
Why is impeachment not likely by HarveyY on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:34:15 AM
The Supreme Court and the Constitution by John Shriver on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:10:36 AM
Answering the question: will the SCOTUS overturn Obamacare? by John L. Mann on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:00:25 PM
Then why are they spending millions on Lobbyists??? by William Cormier on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:27:47 PM
Supremes by Guitar Chris on Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:40:44 PM
Yes on the SC, no on the more hurt than help by Michael Shaw on Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:34:20 PM
Bill or Procedure? by Maxwell on Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:09:10 AM
PS by Maxwell on Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:15:30 AM
In our lifetimes....I agree Maxwell by Michael Shaw on Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:20:07 PM
Right! by Michael Shaw on Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:30:59 PM
Failure to impeach Bush may come home to roost by Paul Karsh on Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:46:12 PM