To start, although millions are aware of the myth, it's still only a fraction, maybe 5%, a vast majority are still stuck in the matrix and firmly cemented into the false left/right paradigm, and nothing short of a 2X4 up-side their heads will shake the hypnotic spell. They'll swallow the Obama Kool-Aid with hardly a whimper.

But even if, as the economy gets worst, more people do start waking-up, before anything could happen, we would have to dodge whatever nasty surprise(s) those elites will spring, as in another false-flag, especially if people start to organize, and this one much bigger than 9/11, would be all that is needed to pass S-1959, and these people you're counting on to "stand-up" will instead be inviting the military into their neighborhoods and be lining-up for their poison FEMA rations.

You won't be one of those people Bill. Neither will I. But I will bet good money that when the rubber meets the road, those people you're counting one will still be taking their orders from the wrong people.

I wish I had the hope you do in the people of this country. Maybe there was a time, back in the days when there was still some semblance of freedom of the press and an education system, but, not anymore, not with these drugged-out, dumbed-down, TV zombies.

I would hope I'm wrong, but from my vantage point, I see dumb people.  

Now I don't mention this to discourage anyone from trying to stop said elites, just the opposite, those of us that are aware now must rage against the dying of the light even stronger. This is simply an observation coming from my time on the streets.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:30:51 PM

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I have read a number of books written during the late 19th century and up to WW II.  I can say that there was recognition of the problem,  and the same issues are being talked about today, but with less clarity and with more restrictions on what you are able to say. 

People are no dumber than in the past, but the consensus reality they are given from MSM and our educational system is so far detached from the truth, the truth seems insane to them, and they block it out.   As a relative of mine said, "well, even if it were true, I wouldn't want to believe it anyways".  It is hopeless.

Orwell was truly prophetic, or he simply knew the plan ( he died within 1 year of his book, and his name wasn't Orwell).

Revolutions are started and won by elites. Riots are started by hungry, and desperate people.  People sometimes confuse the two.  The conditions for the latter is what the elites will create to facilitate their revolution, and allow them to impose martial law, and then foist One World Government on us.  They break up the US into 10 parts with a new constitution that replaces rights with responsibilities, and the dollar will be ended as the worlds reserve currency and replaced with carbon dollar issued by the world bank and a carbon tax enforced by UN troops (formerly known as US troops) .

Anyways, if people are really so dumb, maybe Democracy isn't such a good thing.  Of course, we were given a Republic.  Democracies always end in tyranny.  The Republic suffered mortal blows in 1861 and 1913, and we became a Democracy in 1919, and FDR in 1933 introduced Fascism draped in a flag and holding a cross and went to war on the side of Communism, with 1963  finishing us off. 

Bush just kind of made it official and set the table for Obama who will take us to the promised land.   It helps a bit to know it took 147 years to finish us off, and not just 8 years.  Change should be interesting.

by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:50:22 PM

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Mr. M.,

Yeah, it looks pretty bad, doesn't it?  But as you say, people start waking up when the government starts trashing their income.

A long shot, would be that IF 9/11 was an "inside job" and IF a critical mass of Americans become convinced of this, then our political system (elites included) would fall like a house of cards. 

Even the TV brains would be enraged if they truly believed 9/11 was engineered by the pugs (with considerable help from the Middle East) for fascist elite political reasons.  

Another possibility is the if a critical mass of Americans realized the high probability that the elites are already commiting genocide on the working class (too many human cattle), that also would ignite an explosion of rage that would shatter absolutely our elite government of dem/pug puppets.

So, ironically, the truth of 9/11 and/or elite genocide may be the only things which could TOTALLY transform American society, and I think we should be apolitically working on these things to the limit, since I personally think both of them are absolutely true.  

However, to think Obama will change things significantly is almost certainly a pipe dream.  

The spider web is large (it covers the Earth) but the spiders of national/international elites are few, and if the BILLIONS of humans they literally enslave (21st Century style) "rise up" (say, for either of the above two reaso), the elites may run, but they won't hide -- and God help them.

Bill

by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:58:48 AM

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rageful (you, know against the night and all that) ... I get condemned by some for being too negative.... 

Last night .... did have some infinitesimal success ... I got a successful businessman acquaintance and his licensed professional counselor spouse to sincerely promise to watch Gage's Blueprint for Truth (new edition) and The World According to Monsanto, respectively. 

During our after dinner drinks in their fairly posh living room we conversed on many topics. My acquaintance was shocked at several points ... and in denial... but when discussing the Bushes he was terribly shocked to learn of the attempt 1933 coup against Roosevelt. He asserted that it could not possibly be true. I described Smedley Butler and 'War is Racket' etc. and told him bluntly that these episodes were very apt examples of precisely the kind of information control and manipulation I had previously pointed out. He had, of course, never heard any of that or other salient history or current events. Just as I had not nearly 5 years ago.

While I count the evening as a fair success .... both of them, should they continue to learn, represent 6.666666666667e-09 percent? Did I do that right?

(withoutmyglasses, I had trouble counting all those sixes .... SIXES ??!!

Anyway, pardon the humor ... but with all those 'beasts' and everything else coming down .... things do, I hazard to say, look pretty dire. 

by richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 1359 comments [400 recommended, 8 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:21:30 PM

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Richard, I believe the so called coup was a plot by the elitists to get people to believe they were against FDR's New Deal which was in fact the introduction of fascism to our country with a few socialist bones to appease the masses.  Butler was the last guy to approach for this, and they knew it.  He served under FDR in the occupation of Haiti when FDR was Asst Sec of Navy, a very brutal occupation I might add.

Or it may be the coup took place under someone else, since FDR did pretty much everything he said he was not going to do, and before the war ended he died and his closed casket aroused some suspicions. 

by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:07:11 PM

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...it did happen at another date. Most likely in 1913 when the Rothschilds got their greedy clutches finally secured on our money system by foisting the FED on us, or when the judgement was rendered corporations could claim 'personhood' in the latter 19th century. These were certainly bells of doom, but most people didn't hear them at the time...and still don't recognize the overwhelming threat to us & our Constitution.

The problem isn't a number of people don't recognize the threat (with numbers growing daily), but where is the leverage that we can use to do something to rectify these gross inequities. Got any answers? I'm listening...

by Paul Magill Smith (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 135 comments [46 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:15:45 AM

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There could be some truth to this, not sure see if it makes any sense http://www.world-mysteries.com/doug_titanic1.htm

by MARGARET BASET (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 345 comments [45 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:38:36 AM

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most people cannot think outside of their false Left/Right worldly philosophies, nor outside of any other worldly political ideologies/philosophies. 

The Matrix or System or Beast system controls most thought of most all people as well as controlling them with that invention called money. 

A fellow writing about teenagers today said they aren't like when he was a teenager in the 50's.  Why would someone who is a teenager today even relate to someone who was a teenager in the 50's. anymore than a teenager of the 50's would relate to teenagers in this land in the 1450's?

Human beings often aren't much more than programmed repeating beings who merely repeat their programming.  Their programming also relates to the social structure of this world at the time of their birth relative their place in any social structure.  If they have been lied to since birth & they believe the lies they were programmed with then it is difficult for them to overcome the lies of their programming because that would take them out of their safety bubble...or mean someone burst their bubble about things, & they don't want their bubbles being burst.

Those that love the Matrix, the system, the Beast System certainly don't desire their bubble be burst because they love their bubble in this world.  They adore & worship their bubble that is this world. 

Many think the answers are some other political system so they begin to hustle other political systems of thought in this world of hustlers other than the one they were born into, but they don't consider these other political systems/ideologies are just different heads of the same Beast & they are all false thought/systems of the world of man.

As their own world as they experience life becomes more & more of a political hell on earth they think building a political correct system that is actually just another head of the same Beast will result in something different than what they consider to be their own political hell on earth when in reality all they can do is keep building hell on earth regardless of what they do in the realms of worldly politics.

Those who desire a different political system may abhor the New World Order without realizing the politics they express are just different heads of the NWO. 

While I live in the modern day world I am actually very old fashioned & relate to life in this land before 1492 & 1620 as the histories of the tribes go back 1000's and 1000's of years.

I met an elderly black man in the mind 1990's who is also a minister.  He said I had no idea what people in a church he used to Pastor.  As if people were doing something different in the 1990's than they were doing in the 1450's & on back through time?

I said to him, just consider all the bad news you would have never heard had you lived here when the land belong to the tribes.  He said, I never thought of it that way.

So now the cash register world is here.  A cash register on every corner.  What I call symbolic..Spider Parlors.  Come into my parlor said the spider to the fly.  Now the cash registers have little beep beep machines...beep beep beep they go...

It's a strange world but I am just passing through.

by shadow dancer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1115 comments [121 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:15:11 PM

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... and claiming no direct ancestry (although we're all related) to Native American tribes, I was wondering, given your insight, what would you call the system employed by tribes? Certainly there was a Chief, or Tribal Leader, with varying degrees of a Tribal Consul. Would this not also be perceived as a form of a system of government? And if such, is it just the interjection of money that gummed-up the works, having money take the place of spiritual guides?

I've always considered that we may have reached our pinnacle as human-beings under tribal rule before the advent of gun-powder and money.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:07:44 AM

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Most of what we believe about native American tribes are lies. The chief did not become predominant in native culture until white man came and the natives had to defend themselves from all the evil. Prier to that tribes where guided by the women. Many people falsely believe that the native tribes warred amongst themselves, but this is not true. Conflicts were settled by combat designed to humiliate the opponent but never to kill. Native cultures lived in peace and harmony prier to whitey.

by arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 466 comments [69 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:32:33 AM

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On Obama's website he asked for our vision of America and so I wrote ...

To have a government of the people, by the people and for the people.  The reason why the President and Congress are both rated as failing is that our government is not working for the well being of all Americans but are working for the well being of the rich and powerful whose big money buy influence.  The people are being neglected because it is all about money.

Our government, both Republicans and Democrats, have supported international corporations (like subsidies to oil companies) over protecting the environment.  The reason is money.  The American people (indeed the World's peoples) are concerned over global warming and demand action; but our government supports the oil and coal corporations.  The people are frustrated that the government is not listening to we the people.

The government failed to regulate the financial industry and that was a failure of responsibility to take action against the rich and powerful financial corporations and then when the bubble bursts the government gives our taxpayers money to those same rich and powerful financial corporations.  I read that the public response to the bailout was overwhelming against; but our government (both republicans and democrats) voted against the wishes of we the people and for the rich and powerful.  Some see a conspiricy between government and industry to rob the US treasury; indeed that corporate money has brought control of both republican and democratic parties.

We the people are ready to end our wars.  Our government wants the wars to continue.  Why?  The fact that America does have the most powerful military force has made our government to take on the character of most powerful.  When 9/11 happened we needed to retaliate and so our government in a show of most powerful declared war on terrorism.  We have now extracted immense destruction and loss and perhaps 9/11 and our need for revenge has lessened.  I also feel that as long as we occupy a country that people in that country will be angry at us and that only adds motive to kill Americans.  The military industrial complex certainly exists and now we hear that representatives of this military industrial complex made a media blitz to present a story to the American public to frighten us into a declaration of war against Iraq; and that the Vice President had a hand picked group to gather pieces of information that they knew were unsubstantiated and to create a justification to invade Iraq.  We the people see that we were manipulated by an elaborate scheme to invade Iraq.  Our own government ran a con on we the people (OMFG).

Our government has been throwing out our hard won civil liberties so that now our government says that it is acceptable to grab up citizens and throw them in prision without any specific charges, without any legal representation or without any oversight.  That it is even legal to use torture in interrogating a prisioner.  The governments that we were taught as being evil were the ones who did such things as these (WTF?).  We the people do not condone such acts and think congress should act to put a stop to it; but we see no such effort by congress or the justice department.  

Anyway, we the people want a government that listens to us and acts for the common welfare of we the people of the United States of America.  We want a government that is honest and truthful.  We want a government that protects the rights of individuals.  In short, we the people respect our Constitution and we expect our elected representatives to represent our interests (the common good).

by Philip Pease (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 209 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:49:15 AM

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Remember that Obama raised more money from the elites than any politician in history.

He could have won with public financing, but he chose instead to collect obscene amounts of money, thus making himself beholden to those who can give the most.

by Bill Samuel (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 445 comments [14 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:48:41 AM

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If Obama fails us, in four years we will replace him with someone else, and keep on trying untill we find a person that is truly for the people.  God help us that we did not make a mistake in picking this man.

by Angel Ocasio (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:25:01 AM

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Don't worry Angel, "we" did not "pick Obama". He is a pre fab sprout, groomed and conditioned, dressed and wrapped in ribbons and bows, and hoisted upon the US like every other puppet in a long list of "Presidents".

As far as another four years? There will be no United States in another four years. This is the last dance, unless we start stepping on some toes.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:08:55 PM

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If Obama fails us, in four years we will replace him with someone else, and keep on trying untill we find a person that is truly for the people.  God help us that we did not make a mistake in picking this man.

by Angel Ocasio (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:25:14 AM

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Tribes varied in many many many ways about the functions of the tribes.  When Europeans asked some tribes to see their Chiefs the tribes had no idea what they were talking about as essentially there wasn't an Authoritarian big boss system.  Other tribes had voting long before the Europeans arrived, and woman in those tribes also had the vote as women.

Chiefs & Elders would merely be guides for the tribe based upon learned wisdom.  A Chief or Elder who was perceived not to be to wise would be replaced as the people would tell them they are no longer Chief.  There was already 1000's of years of background for settling internal disputes of people, but it wasn't a sue you sue me thing with lawyers & judges.

The basic foundation of the tribe was that each member of the tribe was needed.  I have a good hunt & other don't then I share that which I have with those who do not have food.  Life was essentially camping out upon the earth.  Hunt, fish, gather & grow food.  No taxes.

The elders who comprised leadership lived with the tribe, no armed security to protect them from their own people, not secret behind the doors deals so they & others could get rich at the expense of the rest of the tribes. 

Because I am a tribal communalist in this world I would appear as a Left Wing Liberal to people who don't understand I don't have any politics.  Friends of European Heritage have told me they never thought of Jesus in a Tribal context as I talked to them about Jesus's paradoxical animal symbology name is the Lion of Judah as he was born of the tribe of Judah.

His teachings forming spiritual circles such as forgive & you will be forgiven.  Return good for evil done to you.  Love your enemies.  Pray for those who use you despitefully.  

As far as freedom goes the Israelites asked God for a King so they could be like the other Nations.  God told them a King would enslave them, but knew in their hearts they didn't want what he wanted for them they just wanted to be like the other Nations they envied. 

They ended up with both Herod's & the Caesar's of Rome.

Those that founded the US who were mostly Freemasons & Deists setting up their branch of the New Order of the Ages stated they patterned the US after Rome.  So eventually the tribes ended up enslaved by a worldly King/Caesar.

God's idea of freedom, and the world of man's idea of freedom are far more than perhaps different ideas. 

The planet orbits.  The bills come in.

Life is good.

by shadow dancer (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1115 comments [121 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:56:51 AM

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It reassures me that so many of these responses (which I always read and learn from) are basically in agreement about our elite government of dem/pug puppets.  Speaking for myself, I had NO conception of that before the Bush years, even though I now know they have been pulling the strings of America for decades.

I continue to hope that this is the first time in American history that the elites screwed up massively by "coming out into the open" to satiate their limitless greed.  Further, I suspect they did this because they thought their neocon coup d'etat was going to be five times more successful than it was, so they didn't worry about "being seen" by the American public with their vampire elite teeth dripping with the blood of our nation.

However, we DID see them and (my act of faith) is that Obama will take at least  few steps back from this American Dictatorship of the Rich.

I think millions of us also realized (again for the first time) that we have a ONE party system of dem/pug puppet traitors running our government.

Knowledge is power?

Bill

by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:25:34 PM

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take similar positions on issues here on OEN.

But I would take exception with your statement or rather, query, that knowledge is power. It is my personal belief that such is not the case. It is, rather, that 'applied knowledge is power'.

just saying-keep up the good work. 

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 675 comments [70 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:56:33 PM

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"The so-called Posse Comitatus Act is brief and too easily circumvented. But it is a valuable expression of an indispensable constitutional principle: the separation of military and law enforcement powers. And it is also a useful reminder of the horrors that can be, and have been, visited on Americans when that separation breaks down."

And as some of us know, that seperation has now broken down. To expect that the deprivations and horrors will not be far behaind is the foolish dream of the naive.

The fact that Obama retained Gates, and now, it is said his entire staff, I would suggest that this reflects the establishment of the military squatting in the Oval office.Indicating that Obama's "wishes" have nothing to do with it, but that he was "advised" in this direction, ei. has no choice if he is to remain the presidential puppet.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 2:46:40 PM

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Obama is so full of sh*t his eyes are brown. No really they are brown. Get off your knees and look at him in the eyes next time you see him.

He will do everything he can now to please the Republican base.

He has already fooled you idiots. Why should he keep all the false promisses now?

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:46:52 PM

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Well Galleher,

Aside from Your framing your response in the fase paradigm of Democrat/Republican, you are correct.

Obama is indeed a phony. He will fulfill the long dreamed of fruition of the power elite and bring this nation into the neofeudal era of globalization.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:53:47 PM

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Here's OBAMA at his best.  click here

by MARGARET BASET (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 345 comments [45 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:56:11 AM

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click here

by MARGARET BASET (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 345 comments [45 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:20:08 AM

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The oft-expressed view that both parties serve a secret elite has a fatal flaw.

This flaw is the historical record of Democratic accomplishments, which seems to get totally ignored in these discussions.

The Democratic Party's record is starkly different from that of the Republican Party.  This would not be so if both parties were puppets of some secret controllers.

America enjoyed higher income at all levels under Bill Clinton.Apparently, no one told him he was working for the bankers.

Again: Clinton instituted the biggest increase in college opportunity since the GI Bill.  The 110th Congress has since increased educational opportunity even more. All of this directly contradicts the statement thatthe parties are fundamentally the same.

Since the Democrats regained control of Congress, they have not been acting at all like the 109th Congress before them, so there goes the theory.

There are countless investigations going on.  Healthcare is on the table.  The internet is safe for now.  Our wounded vets are no longer lying around in their own urine.  The Senate Ethics Committee is back in action.  Many 9/11 Commission recommendations are being passed.  A bill to increase financial aid for colleges has passed--the single largest increase in college aid since the GI bill. The President's signing statements are being investigated.  Legislation to restore habeus corpus has been approved.  The Senate Armed Services Committee has passed legislation "that would grant new rights to terror suspects held at Guantanamo Bay.  The unions have a voice in the government now—as do gays, women, and minorities.  The environment has a fighting chance. The House passed the Taxpayer Protection Act, to protect taxpayers against "identity theft, deceptive Web sites and loan sharks." It also makes it "easier for taxpayers to retrieve property lost as a result of a wrongful Internal Revenue Service levy and directs the IRS to notify lower-income people that they qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit."  The House approved a bill spending $1.7 billion over five years for cleaner water. There's a new House committee devoted solely to addressing the issue of global warming...

...and this is all before Obama got elected!

None of this is consistent with the theory that elites are running the country.  Nor is this the view of sociologists, political scientists, journalists, scholars, or historians.

A good hypothesis fits the facts.  This hypothesis requires one to ignore most of the facts.  Not good.

On the nature of Bubbles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Ocbt6l5NE

by Perry Logan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 557 comments [74 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:53:38 AM

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Please explain where 9-11 fits into this picture, or are you still unconvinced of what others are slowly awakening to? If not, surely you can't believe that Republican operatives were soley behind this atrocity.

by Bill Cain (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 434 comments [67 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:50:22 AM

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I agree totally. Furthermore to all you democrats. Every major war America has been in, with the exception of this one, has been under democrats. While the democrats traditionally put through more social programs too epees the masses. They imideatly begin stealing from them with interest in order to give more money to the corporate elite. 

by arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 466 comments [69 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:18:54 PM

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It must be understood and internalized that data is not information until it forms a structure. Prejudice can deform the structure of the data resulting in misinformation. So intelligence analysis first entails self analysis and a conscious introduction to ones own biases. One need not pretend that one has no bias, just have an understanding of what they are and what emotional color they will add to the data.

It is obvious what the fraudulent issue of fascism versus communism accomplishes: it sets up, as opposites, two variants of the same political system... it switches the choice of "Freedom or dictatorship?" into "Which kind of dictatorship?"--thus establishing dictatorship as an inevitable fact and offering only a choice of rulers. The choice--according to the proponents of the fraud - is: a dictatorship of the rich (fascism) or a dictatorship of the poor (communism). (180) --Ayn Rand synopsizes this dialectical trap

"We cannot understand the role of the people in history unless we also understand the historical illusions which misrepresent history in order to serve the interests of privileged classes. Thus culture must be studied as a weapon in the struggle of classes."

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:29:49 PM

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"So, if Obama chooses the second option (i.e., be just a new "tentacle" of the elites), the outrage of betrayed Americans will almost certainly transform American politics radically and forever."

Every nefarious and evil act committed by the Bush administration from the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq to the decimation of the constitution referred to by Bush as “just a piece of paper", has been editorialized, condemned and mourned over by those who can see through the smoke blown by the mainstream media. Even when snippets made it out to the back pages of some newspapers, the spin control was just revved up by this same mainstream media to ridicule any findings. The facts were never disproved; they were just morphed in to a one-liner sound byte which sent the audience back to sleep. The game has been there in the open for quite a while but, like a woman I was discussing 911 with, she preferred to believe that 19 Arab hijackers were solely responsible for the atrocity. To even entertain the possibility that Government itself was complicit in the act just sent her consciousness flying out of her comfort zone at Mach 2. As a side note, 911 had been proved to be an inside job since 2004 when Mike Ruppert published his book “Crossing the Rubicon”. That makes 4 years that the truth has been out there but even folks I know who read it preferred to just put their heads in the sand and ignore and proof that was given. Even when the Operation Northwoods plan was declassified there was no great public reaction. The policies of current and past administrations are now being laid bare in the sense that every layer of society is suffering the consequences through losing homes, jobs and hope. It is Obama’s job to carry the torch from here with a killer smile. The people are indeed waking up but this has already been preempted. That’s why there are increasing numbers of U.S. troops assigned to “Civil unrest” duties domestically. Obama’s plans for a new broadband access network are a move calculated to eliminate access to anything the Government decides to be contrary to their game plan. After all the truth of 911 was laid bare on the Internet by independent investigators and this represents a serious threat to getting the populace to buy in to any curative process proposed by the incoming administration.

Judging by the actions of Obama so far with regard to his selection of the main players, he has already signed up to the program written for him by the same people who got him elected. He will escalate the War in Afghanistan, keep a large proportion of the troops in Iraq for “training” and “security” and has said that Pakistan poses a serious problem to world peace through its alleged support of “terrorists” in Afghanistan. The one thing that stands out here is the continuity of the plan hatched by Zbigniew Brzezinski when he wrote “The Grand Chessboard” way back in 1997. Eurasia is the geopolitical Valhalla and there is no change to the plan if one listens to what comes out of Obama’s mouth.

The bankrollers of Obama’s campaign mostly hail from the financial sector of Wall St. who will be profiting from his new Climate change plan. (See http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11455). His fawning attention to and fulsome praise for Israel has delegitimized any real dedication to the cause of Human Rights he may have claimed. His commitment to even more war and murder ridicule his claim that he is a man “guided by Jesus”. Hell, even on the latter’s birthday, he did not have a single word for anyone as hundreds of Gazans were being pummeled in to body parts by U.S. funded Death from Above. He had no intention of offending his masters. The way I see it he has already chosen option 2.

by Andrew Hughes (14 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 9 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:29:28 AM

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"So, if Obama chooses the second option (i.e., be just a new "tentacle" of the elites), the outrage of betrayed Americans will almost certainly transform American politics radically and forever."

Every nefarious and evil act committed by the Bush administration from the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq to the decimation of the constitution referred to by Bush as “just a piece of paper", has been editorialized, condemned and mourned over by those who can see through the smoke blown by the mainstream media. Even when snippets made it out to the back pages of some newspapers, the spin control was just revved up by this same mainstream media to ridicule any findings. The facts were never disproved; they were just morphed in to a one-liner sound byte which sent the audience back to sleep. The game has been there in the open for quite a while but, like a woman I was discussing 911 with, she preferred to believe that 19 Arab hijackers were solely responsible for the atrocity. To even entertain the possibility that Government itself was complicit in the act just sent her consciousness flying out of her comfort zone at Mach 2. As a side note, 911 had been proved to be an inside job since 2004 when Mike Ruppert published his book “Crossing the Rubicon”. That makes 4 years that the truth has been out there but even folks I know who read it preferred to just put their heads in the sand and ignore and proof that was given. Even when the Operation Northwoods plan was declassified there was no great public reaction. The policies of current and past administrations are now being laid bare in the sense that every layer of society is suffering the consequences through losing homes, jobs and hope. It is Obama’s job to carry the torch from here with a killer smile. The people are indeed waking up but this has already been preempted. That’s why there are increasing numbers of U.S. troops assigned to “Civil unrest” duties domestically. Obama’s plans for a new broadband access network are a move calculated to eliminate access to anything the Government decides to be contrary to their game plan. After all the truth of 911 was laid bare on the Internet by independent investigators and this represents a serious threat to getting the populace to buy in to any curative process proposed by the incoming administration.

Judging by the actions of Obama so far with regard to his selection of the main players, he has already signed up to the program written for him by the same people who got him elected. He will escalate the War in Afghanistan, keep a large proportion of the troops in Iraq for “training” and “security” and has said that Pakistan poses a serious problem to world peace through its alleged support of “terrorists” in Afghanistan. The one thing that stands out here is the continuity of the plan hatched by Zbigniew Brzezinski when he wrote “The Grand Chessboard” way back in 1997. Eurasia is the geopolitical Valhalla and there is no change to the plan if one listens to what comes out of Obama’s mouth.

The bankrollers of Obama’s campaign mostly hail from the financial sector of Wall St. who will be profiting from his new Climate change plan. (See http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11455). His fawning attention to and fulsome praise for Israel has delegitimized any real dedication to the cause of Human Rights he may have claimed. His commitment to even more war and murder ridicule his claim that he is a man “guided by Jesus”. Hell, even on the latter’s birthday, he did not have a single word for anyone as hundreds of Gazans were being pummeled in to body parts by U.S. funded Death from Above. He had no intention of offending his masters. The way I see it he has already chosen option 2.

by Andrew Hughes (14 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 9 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:11:26 AM

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 The most dangerous potential enemy to any state is the domestic polulation. The most dangerous potential ememy to any domestic population is therefore, the state. (Machiavelli paraphrased)

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The ancient Sun Tzu is more relevant today; although battles should be won, “winning 100 victories in 100 battles is not the acme of skill; defeating the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.”

There is more than one way to compel an enemy.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:53:41 PM

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