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The Gays Are Winning: Why That Spells Doom for the Religious Right

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The gays are winning the culture war. That might not seem true with the laws and amendments banning same sex marriage, as well gays still being banned from openly serving in the armed forces. And there is the odd hate crime against homosexuals, most lately 15 year old Lawrence King gunned in the head, it seems, by a 14 year old member of the Young Marines after the former said he liked the latter. So let us conduct a thought experiment to get a better perspective and where matters stand here in the new century.            

Get a time machine. Go back to, say, 1958. Destination, any well-populated place in America will serve. Stand on a heavily traveled sidewalk with a clipboard and pencil and pretend you are doing a survey. Ask folks as they pass by if they think gays, err, homosexuals, will ever be able to get married. Here's what will happen. Chances are fair you will get beat up, especially if you are in the south. After all, they are still into occasionally lynching blacks. Even if you don't get assaulted, people will look at you like you are insane. What's that? Homos getting married? Who could be crazy enough to imagine such a thing? What are you, some sort of pervert? Perhaps a faggot red (back when red meant pinko)? Who did you say you're taking this survey for? Get back on the time machine, quickly. Move forward in time to, say, 1988. Do the same thing. Chances that you'll get beat up will be far less. And remember to say gay, not homosexual. But the ultimate response will be similar. Gays, getting married? Say what?            

The right has, of course, skillfully exploited the current situation they find themselves in to the maximum that is possible. There are concerns, probably unwarranted, that California will go Republican this year because of the anti-gay marriage amendment initiative that potentially counters the state supreme court ruling favoring same sex wedlock. In 2004 the GOP may have handed themselves the election by making the issue into a classic wedge issue – had gay marriage not been on the Ohio ballot it is possible Bush would have lost the state and the presidency to boot. And the reaction against the sudden appearance of the issue of married gays is not surprising considering that America was deeply homophobic just a generation or two ago. But that is just the point. The right is making the best of a very bad state of affairs. That the traditionalists find themselves in the mind boggling position of actually having to go to the trouble to get laws and amendments passed to keep homosexuals from, heaven forbid, literally marrying one another, is a circumstance they could not have imagined would ever befall them and the nation. That two state supreme courts have endorsed gay marriage is a reflection of the 21st culture, such decisions would not have been possible back in the 1900s. That all this has occurred in such a short time only adds to the shock, it makes starkly clear just how much cultural ground they have lost over the last half-century, and the last decade. Could there be a clearer sign that the sodomite end times are nigh and Satan is having his way?  

The movement of the gays into the mainstream is a campaign within the culture war that the social and religious right absolutely must win, losing is simply not an option. Conservative Christianity always needs an "enemy" with which to rally the troops. For many years hard core Protestants targeted Catholics, Jews and especially blacks, but that is no longer an option. Many blacks have proven to be loyal theocons, and are a bastion of faith-based homophobia. So are conservative Catholics, who have had to become the allies of the evangelical right. But gays are different. Not only is there no way the same sex crowd are going to be arch-conservative Christians, there is just no way society at large can accept gay persons, culture and sensibilities while embracing traditional, Bible-based piety at the same time. They are just too mutually antagonistic, its like bringing two opposed magnets together, it just won't work. Conservative Christian ideology is based on hard line patriarchy in which men dominant women, the antithesis of the gender equivalent gay culture. So it's one or the other that can be mainstream. And not having blacks and Jews to go after anymore, theocons need homosexuals to pick on and demonize as they proclaim their love for all sinners. These reasons explain why the right is so zealous and virulent in their opposition to gaydom. It's an absolute must.  

Why do the theocons oppose gays in the military? They say that it's because a gay friendly military is not practical in operational terms, but that's not the real reason. Imagine if gays openly serving in the armed forces start being awarded medals for valor and other examples of All-American patriotism. That will make homosexuals even more mainstream, and even harder to keep in second class status. 

And there's the problem for the right. The strides gays have made are truly breathtaking in their scope and swiftness, paralleling those made by blacks a couple of decades earlier. May I offer an illustration?  

American Express is not exactly a warren of airy fairy lefty infidels. Back in the 70s and 80s its spokesman was Karl (Don't Leave Home Without It) Malden, who had co-starred as WW II General Omar Bradley in Nixon's favorite movie, Patton. But by the 90s straight arrow Americana was out and culturally tolerant youthful hip was in. So the suits at AE got themselves a new spokesperson. Jerry Seinfeld, co-creator and star of the megasitcom. In the classic episode "The Outing" Jerry and his best buddy George are mistaken for being gay by a cute female reporter from NYU. The news goes national, much to the distress of Jerry and George's folks, one of whom ends up in the hospital with the shock of it all. The two spend the rest of the episode denying that they are so deeply interested in one another while emphasizing "not that there's anything wrong with it."  

Pro-gay Seinfeld reigned back in the Clinton years. American Express replaced him as we entered the Bush II era, the age of a Great Awakening by the evangelical movement that is supposedly sweeping the nation. So the suits at AE picked someone to better reflect this traditionalist, post 9/11 age, right? Perhaps a patriarchal Christian authority figure. Certainly a known heterosexual. Not even close. The current spokesperson for the world's premiere credit card company is....   

Ellen Degeneris is not merely pro-gay, or even just gay, but she has gone to great lengths to proclaim that she is a flaming proud lesbian, to the point of engaging in the first woman-to-woman kiss on network TV. She has recently announced her upcoming marriage, now legal in California, to her partner. Nor is Ellen Christian, she is a paganish New Ager. The people at AE are in no way naïve waifs who picked Ellen just because she is the cutest thing. They were not only fully aware of the sexual orientation of Ms Degeneres, but the marketing people – many selected by higher ups for specifically for their youth because they have a valuable generational knowledge base -- concluded that Ellen is a talented and appealing comedic personality who would engage to the cohort of young consumers that AE wants to start using The Card right now. AE calculated not only that Degeneres' gaydom would not be a serious problem, but that it was a major advantage. Because the popular culture has gone pro-gay.  

Consider who appears on Ellen's talk show. John McCain for one. This after he won the primary contest to become the GOP contender for President of the USA. Why would the leader of the party of the right go on Ellen's show, where she dressed him down for opposing gay marriage? Because he and his advisors know that need a big portion of the youth vote come November, and Ellen is an opinion maker among younger Americans. Visiting Ellen about the same time where Laura and Jeana Bush. Their purpose was to promote the younger Bush's new book in the all important youth market. Did their father care either way? Probably not.    

Contrast the fate of Ellen with that of Anita Bryant. Some three decades ago the former beauty queen was making a nice living as the squeaky clean All-American spokesperson for the Florida orange growers. Then she blew it. A devout theocon, Anita decided to take on the rising gay movement. Why is not entirely clear. Having since taken a less confrontational live-and-let-live attitude towards homosexuality, Anita claims her overbearing husband of the time put her up to it. In any case the results were not ambiguous. Her career was wrecked. Those on the right can claim a bias in favor of the left when comparing the Ellen and Anita stories, but that would be misleading. The folks at the Florida orange growers probably had some sympathy for their spokeperson's anti-homo opinions. But that she had actually gone public with them in a big way left them appalled. She had transformed their refreshing and popular product into a subject of social controversy. If there is one thing that corporations do not want to have happen is to their precious merchandise is for it to become a subject of societal contention. Especially when their spokesperson is being compared to Hitler and boycotts are rearing their ugly heads. Naïve Anita did not understand that in commerce the bottom-line rules. She had to go, and Anita was quietly shown the door.  

It's not just American Express and fruit growers who think its great when gays use their products and services. According to the Human Rights Campaign the American workplace continues the long-term trend of becoming friendlier to gays and transsexuals as corporations fight in-house discrimination and enhance benefits for nonheteros. When usually socially savvy Microsoft was sufficiently inept to announce that it was backing away from supporting state level improvements in gay rights because of concerns raised by Christian employees they got so much flack that they quickly reinstated their long standing advocacy for homosexuals. And look at the company Henry Ford – an old fashioned cultural traditionalist to the core -- created.  Today's Ford Motor was running ads for its Jaguar and Land Rover subdivisions in gay publications, and was receiving praise from nonhetero groups for its pro-gay policies. The arch-evangelical American Family Association decided to put a stop to that sort of thing. AFA owns some 200 radio stations and boosts that it has 3 million members. Who was going to get in their way? In May 2005 they initiated a boycott against Ford for providing marriage benefits for same-sex couples and giving "thousands of dollars to support homosexual groups and their agenda." Late in 05 Ford dropped the ads in the gay publications. A victorious AFA agreed to cease the boycott. Much fury ensued from the gay lobby. They were not about to put up with this sort of nonsense. After Ford executives met with gay activists who announced that the discussions were "incredibly productive" the company reinstated the advertisements, and affirmed that they will continue there other gay friendly policies.  

So there you have it. Yet another set of corporate suits looked at the culture and after doing the sociological calculations handing another social defeat to the religious right. The gay lobby proved more powerful than the Christian traditionalist lobby.

Bigotry theocon style is eroding, to the degree that the religious right is no longer a serious commercial concern to the free marketeers at American Express, Ford and Microsoft. And there's Disney. Long gay friendly because so much of its creative talent is oriented thusly, it has taken to brushing off periodic critiques from the right who cannot stand that the all American family values corporation is so anti-traditionalist. Remember how the nation just laughed when Pat Robertson warned that the Disney dominated Orlando area was just asking for the loving God's wrath via one of His righteous hurricanes? God pick on Disneyworld? The front page of The Washington Post, in April 2007, ran an article headlined "Disney's Theme Weddings Come True for Gay Couples" that began with the following news.  Same-sex weddings are coming out at Disneyland. Walt Disney Co. said yesterday [Good Friday] that gay couples can buy the company's high-end Fairy Tale Wedding package that allows them to exchange vows at Disney's theme parks and aboard its cruise ships, starting at about $4000 per wedding.    

People, I do not make this stuff up. The company Walt built is offering their lavish wedding package – please, no comments about the inclusion of a certain word in its title -- at its venues to happy couples of any orientation. Why hip gays would wish to go down this tacky path to matrimony might be open to question, but what is important to this tale is that the power of their community grows to the frightened fury of the right. The entertainment industry at large is packed to the gills with gay talent and sensibilities. Always has been, always will be. Getting the gays out of the media is ethically as vile as Goebbel's elimination of Jews from the German culture, but practically it is probably less doable. Instead, openly homosexual characters have suddenly become normal on television and in the movies. Sometimes it is blatant as per Will & Grace. Other times it is more subtle. A couple of years ago there was a nice kids film, MGM's Good Boy!, about how canines are really aliens sent from a distant star system to take over the planet from us mere apes. I could not help noticing that one of the lesser dog characters was owned by two handsome, young, clean cut guys living in the same house. They really seemed to like each other.  

Same sex partners live openly in many communities with little fuss and bother in a manner simply not imaginable in the 50s. Actually criticizing gays and their lifestyles in mainstream media these days is a cultural taboo, it's easier to go after those wacky fundamentalists. Half of Americans think that homosexual behavior is okay. No way that was true when Ike was president, or when Ronnie was in the White House for that matter. Gays are so much a part of the culture that a word once used to describe a happy state of mind now describes a sexual orientation. In 1978 a quarter of Americans would have voted for a known homosexual for president. Now 60% say they are willing -- still way below blacks and Jews but a tremendous improvement. Some generals are coming out for allowing gays to serve openly as attitudes in the military shift. When General Peter Pace was politically incorrect enough to say being gay was immoral he was slapped down pronto. When Bush II was asked by a Fox reporter if he agreed with the general that homosexuality is immoral George declined to give his viewpoint.  

A poll of vets returning from Iraq and Afghanistan found that three quarters had been comfortable interacting with gay comrades. 18 to 29 year olds who favor gays openly serving their county rose by half to over nine in ten in ten years. It is all the more fascinating that youth has become remarkably gay friendly even as many schools still teach that same sex is a no-no. Even more remarkable is that PEW finds that levels of tolerance are increasing among older folk. Even in the red states acceptance of gays is rising among the youth.  

Why is the propaganda of the right not working nearly as well as they want?  Blame the general rise in tolerance for minorities. If blacks are OK, and Jews, etc. too, then why waste the energy going after the homosexuals? Bigotry is hard work. Do dedicated followers of Jesus always have to be mad at someone? So just be nice. Making it even worse is that gays in the main are turning out to be pretty decent folks. Why pick on them? How often do gay men rape women and beat their wives? It's the hetero men who do that. What happened in Massachusetts when they allowed gays to wed. Did folks start having sex in the streets? Did heterosexual couples start divorcing so they could hitch up with their new same-sex lovers? The Rodney King effect is so strong it is not just youth in general that is going pro-gay, young theocons are too. On a recent PBS News Hour young evangelicals discussed how they found their conservative values challenged as some of their Christian friends came out, and they did not seem to be the depraved, Satan guided sinners church doctrine claims they are. While only one in ten older evangelicals support gay marriage, about a third of those under 20 do.

 

Here's the theocon elite's problem. They cannot outright condemn homosexuals because that sort of thing won't fly in these tolerant times. It's not like when you could burn deviants alive, or stone them to death. So they have to tell the flocks to "hate the sin, not the sinner." That's as wimpy as it is muddled. If gays are not evil per se, then why give them such a hard time in the first place? Live and let live.   

Nothing better reveals how Christian traditionalism is shooting itself in the foot as it  loses the culture is the gay experience since the events at Stonewall in 1969, when patrons of the Greenwich Village gay bar battled with the raiding police because they figured they just were not going to take it anymore -- of course the Big Apple now adores its gays. When AIDs showed up many theocons presumed it was the Lord's just punishment for the wicked, and predicted an end to the rise of the sodomizers.

That did not happen. Yet again the right over reached with vindictive slurs against the victims of a vicious disease whose courage in facing the epidemic improved their image in the eyes of the mainstream. The astonishingly swift rise in the fortunes of Amerohomosexuals is another example of how things can turn in an instant against the essential interests of the right, and why they have excellent reason to be trembling in their boots considering that even Christian America can make such a profound secular style switch in a historical blink of an eye.

Look what happened in Spain. Not so long ago the devout Catholic buddy of Hitler and Mussolini, Franco, ruled the nation; it was during the first year of Saturday Night Live that faux news anchor Chevy Chase repeatedly poked fun at the dictator's lingering death. Now Spain is a progressive democracy where gays can get hitched. And divorced.  

About divorce, that brings up Anita Bryant again. She was not able to switch from promoting juice to right wing causes because her divorce ruined her credibility with conservative Christians. This was ironically unfair -- Ronald Reagan for instance was a divorcee, and born-again Christians split up at very high rates. Evangelicals have done so much damage to holy matrimony that their attempt to slander gay marriage as a threat to the heterosexual version of the institution comes across as hypocritical, further damaging the credibility of the anti-gay movement.

That raises a reason the theocons are opposed to same-sex marriage. According to the Christian right hetero marriage is God's plan. But what if gay marriages prove to be more stable? There is evidence that same-sex partnerships exhibit less violence. The disparity in the physical strength in the couple is not skewed towards one partner, and gay males seem to be less hormonally disposed towards domineering violence. Gay relationships are inherently more egalitarian, so the little woman is not stuck with the bulk of the house work. If there is one thing religious traditionalists cannot abide is having their faith-based ideology contradicted by reality.     

The broader trends are against the American right as well. The conservative Christian minority has peaked and is in decline as major right wing sects such as the Southern Baptists report that "evangelistically, the denomination is on a path of slow but discernable deterioration." Of course, Christian homophobia is based upon scripture. The thing about that is that according to Gallup Bible literalists made up about four in ten Americans back in the 1970s, but have been steadily slipping and are now approaching a quarter. Meanwhile the folks who think the Bible is more legend than reality and think gays are a fine lot are gaining fast and will soon match and surpass the literalists. That can't be good for the bigots. Neither is how youth is markedly less religious than prior generations as church membership and attendance continue a decades long slide to new lows. Meanwhile those who do not believe in a supreme being have ballooned from a couple of million in the 1950s to some 60 million today, rivaling evangelicals in numbers. Atheists and agnostics are not known for picking on gays.  

There is no choice for fervent Christianity. Gays absolutely and without fail must be stopped, and stopped really soon or the traditionalist movement and ardent faith will shrivel into pathetic impotence. The hard right knows this. And looking at the big picture many theocons sense, correctly, that they are losing. The recent success in passing bans on same-sex marriage is better than the failure to do the same, but it is no great victory for the right. It is a frantic rear guard action intended to stem a tsunami of culturo-sexual tolerance that patriarchal faith cannot survive. The rise of the gays appears to be a contributing factor in the decline of hard-core religion, and it looks like things are only going to get worse for the Bible believers.  

Here's the trouble, for the right wing bigots that is. The theocon elites have no viable mechanism for actually reversing the ascent of the gays and put them back in their apartheid closet. How is that going to work? Gays are no more willing to be driven back out of the mainstream society than blacks are going to resubmit to Jim Crow. Evangelical groups that convert gays to the straight side are convincing only a diminutive fraction of homosexuals to switch teams -- as Elaine and Kramer tried in Seinfeld. As one of the gay characters proudly proclaimed at the end of HBO's Angels in America it's too late, the gay cat is out of the bag and is not going back.  

Documentation –  PEW Trends in Political Values and Core Attitudes: 1987-2007, people-press.org/reports/display.php3?Report ID=312. Edgell, Penny, Gertels, J. and Hartmann, D. Atheists s "Other": Moral Boundaries and Cultural Membership in American Society. American Sociological Review 71: 211-234, 2006 show the discriminatory attitudes most Americans have towards the atheist minority.  Tom Smith & Seokho Kim discuss the NORC data showing that Amerofaith is declining as the nonreligious rise in "The Vanishing Protestant Majority," GSS Social Change Report 14 (2004), www.norc.uchicago.edu/issues/PROTSG08.pdf. In "The Decline of Religious Identity in the United States," Institute for Jewish & Community Research (2004), www.Jewishresearch.org/PDFs/religion.pdf, Sid Groeneman & Gary Tobin explore the demographic factors behind the decline, while Michael Hout & Claude Fischer look at the socio-political aspect in "Why more Americans have no religious preference: politics and generations," American Sociological Review (2002) 67:165.  Religious Views and Beliefs Vary Greatly by Country, According to the Latest Financial Times/Harris Poll. www.harrisinteractive.com/NEWS/allnewsbydate.asp?NewsID=1130  and H. Taylor, While most Americans believe in God, only 36% attend a religious service once a month or more. www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=408  found that nonbelievers now number 60 million in the US.  P. Marler &  C. Hadaway.  "Testing the Attendance Gap in a Conservative Church," Sociology of Religion (1999) 60:175 and S. Presser "Data collection mode and social desirability bias in self-reported religious attendance," American Sociological Review. (1998) 63: 137 show that actual church attendance is much lower than indicated in surveys.    Adelle Banks "Southern Baptists address drop in baptism numbers," 6/18 (2005); Jacqueline Salmon "Southern Baptists Struggle to Maintain Flock" & Shrinking Flock Examines Its Identity: Churches Renamed ti Escape Stigma Some Say "Baptist" Carries," 6/8 (2008); The Washington Post Shoenn Freeman "Ford Faces Renewed Conservative Boycott," The Washington Post 3/14 (2006).  Amy Joyce "Majority of Large Firms Offer Employees Domestic Partner Benefits." The Washington Post 6/30 (2006).  "Young People Express Views on Religion, Politics." PBS Newshour 1/2/07.    

 

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BOTH A MILITANT GAY LIBERATIONIST AND A MILITANT ATHEIST


I am both a militant Gay Liberationist and a militant Atheist. However, there is nothing to be gained by pretending the statistics are better than they are. The very same Pew survey reported that only 8% of Americans didn't believe in a Supreme Being. While this is an improvement over the 4% the Gallop Poll reported as not believing in the 1950's, 8% is only 24 million, not the sixty million your article reports. The fact that the percentage of believers has risen from 4 to 8% and the fact that many believers in God are no longer fervent enough to feel they have to belong to a particular church or even bother to attend church are both hopeful signs that the number of Atheists will eventually reach 60 million some day, and that this trend will end with Atheists becoming the majority. And many people who say they believe in God turn out when questioned further to only believe in a vague life force or spirit. But we are not there yet.

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by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 325 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:05:02 AM

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Winning the War?

 

I disagree. Gays may be able to temporarily force their minority will upon the majority, but it is only temporary. Maybe it will last 50 years or a hundred years, but one day things will turn around.

Governments come and go over time and with them goes their so called culture. Many within this country believe that one day the streets of North America may be engaged in warfare same as we see in Iraq and other oppressed nations.

When the government fails to control the population at some future point in time, the situation will begin to reverse itself. It always does. It is only a matter of time... and the majority will one day re-establish their dominance and socially suppress un-natural behavior once again.

So don't think the gays are actually winning any wars because they aren't. All that is happening is that gays are gaining some temporary advances at law while society still thinks pretty much the same though many won't admit it.

When America falls, so to will the advances of homosexuals. Nature will re-assert itself one day and make the neccessary corrections as it always does.

KG

by Levin Sheridan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 170 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:28:18 AM

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And the winner takes all?

Tolerance is not a virtue. Neither is  a lifestyle. We continue to mix  the things.  Gays won? Over whom?  The society  persissts  to maintain the premise  that  the private  life of a person is his/her business and people have to  have equal rights. That's positive. But  to promote the idea that  this means a winning for  some group  is  a little  unfortunate. It is a gain for all of us.  The actual fact that some people among us   cannot  be happy in their private lives the same way as we are   is a bad factor for all. Now,  that does not mean  that gay people are intrinsically better than others. Not a chance. It just  mean that we  all are coming to our senses.

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:35:34 AM

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Statistical correction

The claim in the 1st comment that only 8% of Americans currently do not believe in GOd is inaccurate. Like most surveys, PEW does not design their polls to account for the well documented fact that Americans are reluctant to admit they are not more religious than they are, or that they are not religious at all. For example 40% of Americans consistently tell pollsters they attend church regularly, but all studies to determine the actual level find that about half that number are in church on a typical Sunday. As I have explained in other OEN posts, two Harris polls crafted to measure the actual level of disbelief found that 21%, or 60 million (equals the Catholics or evangelicals) do not believe in a supreme being. That is up from around 2 million in the 1950s. The nonreligious doubled in just the last dozen years. No other group is growing with such rapidity -- Mormons went from two to just six million over the last half century -- and America is now swiftly secularizing like all other advanced democracies (if you want to disagree please read by other OEN posts on the subject first).

As for whether gays are winning or not, of course they are. They are winning just like blacks have. And their are real losers in this cultural struggle, the religious right that makes up about a quarter of the population. Of course the American majority is winning. In terms of overall levels of societal conditions, it is the gay friendly, highly secular and progressive western democracies that enjoy low levels of homicide, incarceration, juvenile and adult mortality, STD infections, abortion, teen pregnancy and the like. It is highly religious America that retains shocking levels of societal dysfunction otherwise found in the 2nd and 3rd worlds (again, see my OEN posts on the subject before objecting).

G Paul 

 

by Gregory Paul (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:01:28 PM

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I wish gays could

...defeat the religious right, but believing that gays have that much power, that they can achieve what so many more powerful groups could not achieve so far is deliriously optimistic.

The influence of the religious right might be declining now, due to the accumulation of failures and disasters the neocons have brought on us, but claiming victory now is a bit premature. 

Anyway, the nefarious influence of far right political forces is not accidental and temporary in the US; these forces represent an important and  lasting part of the political culture--think about the McCarthy years and the anti-Commies paranoia in the 50s. They may recede in the background at some time, but they are always there, ready to resurface cyclically and wreak havoc with the country whenever they get a chance. 

We are not finished with them, we have not even won; watch for Rovian dirty tricks, fake terrorists alerts  and October surprises,.

by francine (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 385 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:52:33 PM

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Excellent article!

And well put Mark S, this is not about winning or losing, it's about human dignity.

That said, I feel like a real winner right now.  I married my boyfriend in Canada this past April in a civil ceremony with my cousin and a friend as witnesses.  We are having a reception to celebrate on July 5th at my families farm along the beautiful Mississippi (not the flooded part) in Wisconsin.  His father is coming all the way from Croatia along with a few other friends and family.  I will have both of my grandmothers, 87 and 94 years old there and my cousin's newborn so almost a 100 year span of ages.  There will be Catholics, Evangelicals, and Atheists. Everyone is supporting us and we could not be more proud and encouraged.  

I never in my life thought I would be in this position when I struggled against myself and tried as hard as I could to make myself straight through high school and college.  I believed those bigoted, hateful voices that said something was wrong with me, that I was an immoral abomination.  They were wrong, they continue to be wrong, and history will prove them wrong.

So, although this is not about winning or losing, I am having a very hard time right now not feeling like my husband and I are huge winners. There is plenty left to be done, but for now, I am looking forward to a bright future more than ever before, out, in the open, before family and friends, with nothing to hide.  We could not be happier.

Well, we do need a greencard, but one battle at a time! 

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by ingiro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 45 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:31:17 PM

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"So-Called Gay Culture War"

I've been actively involved in the struggle for GLBT equality for twenty or so years. In these years, I have seen first hand the changes in the "So-Called Culture War" waged by conservative religious right fanatics against gay citizens. Yes, peoples attitudes towards gays has shifted dramatically since the late 50's. I believe it's because gay people no longer hide in fear in the closet, but, are out, open and proud about who they are. Which not only puts a face on the people the religious right has demonized for so many years. But, these faces are similar to the one's they look into in the mirror every morning, no pointed ears, fangs, tails or carrying a pitch forks.
Society changes, hatred, intolerance and injustice is no longer a family value passed down by one generation onto the next. People refuse to allow the religious beliefs of some being forced down their throats and dictate how they must live their lives.
Separation of Church and State, should not only protect ones right to practice whatever religion they choose, it should not be used to deny others equal protection under the law.

by Zeke Tampa (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:08:53 PM

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another point to mention is that progressive christians are also standing up to the relgious right and making it more acceptable to follow the teachings of jesus, which the religious right is so eager to reject. I.e., one can't love their neighbor and attempt to deny them access to homes, jobs, and other public accomodations. one can't love their neighbor and reject them, belittle them, beat them, or kill them. the fact is that jesus associated with prostitutes, lepers, and the other outcasts of his day and the religious conservatives were so incensed they put him to death. Jesus' life was dedicated to fighting for the underdog. unfortunately, the religious right has rejected jesus and instead relies on leviticus and deuteronomy for their gospel, even though jesus broke the old testament commandments and was ultimately put to death for doing so. One cannot follow Jesus example, and follow the teachings of leviticus and deuteronomy. people are finally figuring this out and are rejecting the gospel of hate of the religious right.

by shane1962 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:22:01 AM

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