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September 11, 2008 at 13:14:54
STILL UNANSWERED 9/11 QUESTIONS 
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Senator Max Cleland – Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned in December 2003 "I, as a member of the [9/11] Commission, cannot look any American in the eye... It is a national scandal... this White House wants to cover [9/11] up." Senator Mark Dayton – Member, Senate Committee on Armed Services and Homeland Security "[NORAD] lied to the American people, they lied to Congress and they lied to your 9/11 Commission...the most gross incompetence and dereliction of responsibility and negligence" Congressman Ron Paul - Vice Chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee "the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation"
When the FBI's chief of investigative publicity was asked why not, he replied: "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."
Congressman Curt Weldon - "[9/11 Commission] there's something very sinister going on here... something desperately wrong... This involved what is right now the covering up of information that led to the deaths of 3,000 people"
Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney - Member of the House Armed Services Committee "the [9/11] Commission ran up against obstruction by the administration and non-cooperation from government agencies... the errors and omissions immediately jumped out at us"
Director of the FBI, Louis Freeh – "[9/11 Commission] findings--raises serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself"
Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts, PhD - "Distinguished national and international scientists and scholars present massive evidence that the 9/11 Commission Report is a hoax and that the 9/11 "terrorist attack" has been manipulated to serve a hegemonic agenda in the Middle East... We know that it is strictly impossible for any building, much less steel columned buildings, to "pancake" at free fall speed. Therefore, it is a non-controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC buildings is false"
Assistant Secretary of Housing, Catherine Austin Fitts - "Regarding 9/11 "The official story could not possibly have happened... It’s not possible. It’s not operationally feasible... The Commission was a whitewash. "
U.S. Army Intelligence officer, Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice, John Loftus ~ "The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defence of incompetence"
Foreign Service Officer, George Kenney - " I cannot believe, much as I might like to, the standard account of 9/11"
Foreign Service Officer, J. Michael Springman - "Fifteen of the nineteen people who allegedly flew airplanes into buildings in the United States got their visas from the same CIA Consulate at Jeddah"
Deputy Attorney General, State of Pennsylvania, Philip J. Berg, Esquire - "The official story of what actually took place on 9/11 is a lie. "
Major General U.S. Army, Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, Albert Stubblebine ~ "I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon?"
Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center - "I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate"
Col. Robert Bowman, U.S. Air Force, Director of Advanced Space Programs, PhD Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering - " the official 9/11 story is impossible .. There is a cover up .. high levels of our government don't want us to know what happened .. highly placed individuals in the administration .. Dick Cheney .. the very kindest thing we can say about George W Bush .. is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder "
Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army ~ "Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 "when you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile."
Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force, fighter pilot, commercial pilot flying 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777 ’s. Had previously flown Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC ~"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple...[Regarding Flight 77]"The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles... The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77"
- Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School, Barbara Honegger, MS ~ "The US military, not al Qaeda, had the sustained access weeks before 9/11 to also plant controlled demolition charges throughout the superstructures of WTC 1 and WTC 2, and in WTC 7, which brought down all three buildings on 9/11...A US military plane, not one piloted by al Qaeda, performed the highly skilled, high−speed 270−degree dive towards the Pentagon that Air Traffic Controllers on 9/11 were sure was a military plane as they watched it on their screens. Only a military aircraft, not a civilian plane flown by al Qaeda, would have given off the "Friendly" signal needed to disable the Pentagon’s anti−aircraft missile batteries as it approached the building...Only the US military, not al Qaeda, had the ability to break all of its Standard Operating Procedures to paralyze its own emergency response system"
- Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army, Intelligence officer ~ "I view the 911 event ...as a matter that implies either...A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down or B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East"
Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief, U.S. Army Intelligence Officer, Raymond L. McGovern ~ " I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 report is a joke...just as Hitler in 1933 cynically exploited the burning of the parliament building, the Reichstag, this is exactly what our President did in exploiting 9/11...making a war of aggression on a country that he knew had nothing to do with 9/11...that’s certainly an impeachable offense...But compelling evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited."
U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officer, case officer CIA. Robert David Steele ~ "I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others...This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism...I'm absolutely certain that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition and that as far as I'm concerned means that this case has not been properly investigated. There's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition"
Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the federal Aviation Administration. Team leader of the FAA's Red ( Terrorism ) Team in the Federal Air Marshall program, Coast Guard officer, Bogdan Dzakovic ~ "At worst, I think the 9/11 Commission Report is treasonous."
- State Secretary, Federal Ministry of Defense, West Germany, Andreas von Buelow, PhD - "The official story is so inadequate and far-fetched that there must be another one...This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry."
President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga ~ "[9/11] could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel."
General Leonid Ivashov, Chief of Staff, Russian armed forces, Ministry of Defense ~ "Only secret services and their current chiefs – or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations – have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation [9/11] of such magnitude...Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders."
Chief of Staff, Pakistani Army, General Mirza Aslam Beg ~ "The information which is now coming up, goes to prove that involvement by the ‘rogue elements’ of the U.S. military and intelligence organization is getting more obvious. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the knowhow and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise."
European Parliament, Committee on Security and Defense, Giulietto Chiesa ~ regarding 9-11 "Billions of people were given only one explanation....which is entirely false....everyone who dares to question it is treated as if he was a fool."
French Army Intelligence and artillery officer, Col. Pierre-Henri Bunel, Expert in the effects of artillery weapons and explosives ~ Regarding Department of Defense photos of the Pentagon on 9/11 "Image of the impact on the Pentagon is very instructive as to the nature of the explosion. ... It corresponds to a detonation of an explosive with high energetic power. The explosion does not correspond to a deflagration of kerosene...suggests a single engine flying vehicle much smaller in size than an airliner...resembles the effects of anti-concrete hollow charges that I have been able to observe on a number of battlefields...lead me therefore to think that the detonation that struck the building was that of a high-powered hollow charge used to destroy hardened buildings and carried by an aerial vehicle, a missile."
Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Thomas H. Kean, Former Governor of New Jersey - "FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue...We, to this day, don't know why NORAD told us what they told us...It was just so far from the truth."
Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Homeland Security Advisory Council ~ "we got started late; we had a very short time frame...we did not have enough money...We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail"
9/11 Commissioner, Timothy J. Roemer, PhD, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence - "that panel members so distrusted testimony from Pentagon officials that they referred their concerns to the Pentagon's inspector general...We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"
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The 911 esoterics
For your consideration - right here at home - seven years later and the most serious of matters surrounding the 911 attacks go unaddressed, suppressed and ignored. This is no accident. These matters are avoided quite deliberately - and with great effort. Many key persons have much key information to secret and much at stake, to this day: Why were the repeated, urgent and specific warnings of an impending terrorist attack of historic proportions ignored by the entire Bush inner circle? Why did National Security Advisor Condaleezza Rice, apparently acting in some alternate official capacity, remove top US anti-terrorism expert, (under four administrations), Richard Clarke from the Bush inner circle in the months prior to the attacks, even as DCI director George Tenet reportedly was "running around with his hair on fire" regarding a steady stream of unprecedented intelligence warnings? Why did the Bush administration ardently oppose ANY investigation from the start? Why did both Bush - and later Cheney - contact the democratic Congressional leadership to warn that "the democrats would pay a high price" for an investigation into 911 of too much depth'? Why was a team of legal specialists assembled by Bush insiders to select the members that would make up the 911 Commission? Why was the 911 Commission staffed with well-engrained, political insiders - all steeped in conflicts of interest in their official duty?-- Upon it's formation and in it's first public statement, why would the 911 Commission, proclaim that they intend to "offer the fullest account possible into the 911 attacks", and shortly thereafter add that they are "not out to blame anyone"? Why would the 911 Commission proclaim in their final report that "the financing of the 911 attacks is, ultimately, of little importance"? With subpeona power, why did the 911 Commission receive less than 3,000 of the 12,000 documents that it requested from the White House, and not object or employ it's "subpeona power"? Why did the arrangement that compelled National Security Advisor Rice to testify before the Commission include provisions to exclude sworn testimony from Rice's deputy Stephen Hadley, Bush's political adviser Karl Rove, or any other White House officials? Why were decades long Bush family ties with the bin Laden family and the Saudi Royal family completely suppressed throughout the congressional investigation and deliberately omitted by the 911 Commission? (A twenty-eight page, highly detailed report of these critical connections was reviewed and suppressed by both "investigative committees", as per White House demands.) Why were numerous key FBI and intelligence officials surrounding the events of 911 gagged - even threatened, while key military, intelligence and political officials that utterly failed were ALL promptly promoted? Why was the San Diego FBI "asset", with whom two of the hijackers would live before 911, sequestered by the FBI in a secret location and prevented from testifying before the Commission? Why was Pakistan's Intelligence Chief General Mahmud Ahmed not questioned when it was confirmed that he personally authorized a $100,000 wire transfer to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta in the days before the 911 attacks? Why would the 911 Commission, in it's first public statement proclaim that they intend to "offer the fullest account possible into the 911 attacks", and shortly thereafter proclaim that they are, "not out to blame anyone"? Why would the 911 Commission proclaim in their final report that "the financing of the 911 attacks is, ultimately, of little importance"? Why did Bush agree to "meet with" the 911 Commission only with Dick Cheney at his side? Why were no cameras, transcript or recordings allowed? Why did neither agree to be sworn? Why were all notes taken by the Commission members confiscated by the Secret Service when Bush and Cheney concluded their "meeting" with the Commission? Why were the connections with and training of several of the alleged hijackers by US intelligence and military agencies in the months and years before the 911 attacks suppressed by the Commission? Why did Jeb Bush, the president's brother and governor of Florida leave his state aboard a US military C-130 transport aircraft the evening of 911, with the entirety of the records from the flight shool that was attended by several of the hijacker pilots? Why was this ignored by each investigative body? What could warrant this extraordinary action? Why was the testimony of 118 NY firefighters, that spoke to massive and repeated explosions within the WTC towers following the initial airliner strikes, (as clearly evidenced in a wide array of on-site videotapes and civilian testimony), unaddressed and ignored by the 911 Commission? (Why did the city of New York fight the release of this testimony for over five years, and release it only after numerous court and FOIA battles?) Why did the $20 million NIST report, conducted by many experts in the field of explosive technologies, ignore, avoid and not test for any possibility of explosives in the demise of the WTC towers - including the collapse of WTC 7? Who had the power to facilitate the unduly fast clearing and disposal of debris at the crime scenes, especially in New York and at the Pentagon? What was the official reason? Why would it be necessary, in the conduct of military war drills on 911, to inject large numbers of "phantom" radar images into the civilian radar system that made locating the actual hijacked airliners by the FAA impossible? (All military air drills were taking place hundreds of miles from both the US Capitol and New York City.) When key, top-level Pentagon officials offer three sharply contradictory versions of their failures over a sixteen month period, (the final one to the 911 Commison), and the members of the Commission know that they are lying, why has this critical aspect of the crime not been addressed? (The 911 Commission members knew the Pentagon officials were lying and considered referring perjury charges to the Justice department. Perjury by any key witness in any trial is a reversable error). Why did agents of the FBI immediately confiscate numerous civilian videotapes of the Pentagon impact, even as people were burning to death in the aftermath? Why are the videotapes of the crash classified, to this day? Why are the aircraft remains from flights 93 and 77 classified? Why are the scant remains of flights 77 and 175 classified? How was a large, lumbering passenger jet able to fly for over 30 minutes and 400 miles eastward, (after it was commandeered and located on radar), in the most heavily guarded airspace in the US without a military response? Was the Pentagon, or was it not, equipped with a missle defense system on 911, and if so, why did it utterly fail in preventing American Airlines flight 77 from crashing into the building? How, by whom and for what purpose were long-established aircraft intercept procedures and protocols significantly revised only four months prior to 911? How, when, by whom and for what purpose were the numerous air drills, (critical in the failures to intervene during the attacks), originally planned for October 2001, re-scheduled for the week of 9/10/2001? How, why and by who's design was vice president Dick Cheney granted unprecedented command and control of all US air defense training and coordination only three months before the 911 attacks? Of the myriad air drills in progress on 911, (the essence of the official version and critical in the staggering failures to respond to the attacks), why was only one briefly mentioned in a minor footnote deeply buried in the final report by the 911 Commission? Why were the results of 'Able Danger', a pre-911 intelligence operation that produced countless red flags about those that would eventually hijack airliners on 911, suppressed by both the congressional investigation and the 911 Commission? Why were libraries of Able Danger records destroyed both before and after the 911 attacks? Why were so many critical investigations into those that would become hijackers hampered and halted by mid and upper level FBI supervisors? Why were numerous FBI operatives prevented from testifying? Why were volumes of National Security Agency files made available only days before the Commission wrapped up? When two FBI agents that were being repeatedly ignored by their supervisors about suspicious Muslim men taking flight training, they went to former Clinton prosecutor David Schippers. Mr Schippers contacted Attorney General Ashcroft many times, to no avail. Why was this critical failure ignored? Why was FBI translator Sibel Edmonds fired and gagged, her critical, 3 1/2 hour testimony about widespread incompetence and outright corruption within the FBI ignored? Why was the critical testimony by US Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, (that sharply contradicted Cheney's rendition of events during the 911 attacks), not only ignored - but expunged from the Commission transcripts and video archives? How, and by who's design were the members of Odigo, an Israeli owned text message service, warned fully two hours before the 911 attacks - and why wasn't this pursued by the 911 Commission? With confirmed, widespread identity theft and mistaken identites among the alleged hijackers, why hasn't the FBI revised the original list of the accused? How can the crime of the century be tied to al Qaeda, or anyone, when identities are known to be fraudulent? Why would ICTS, the Israeli owned company that provided security at Boston's Logan airport, Washington's Dulles airport and Newark's airport, (departure points for all four hijacked airliners), push for, (and receive), legislation to be inserted into the Patriot Act that gave them immunity from any liability in the 911 attacks? Why hasn't the FBI or any US law enforcement agency charged Osama bin Laden in the attacks on the United States of America on September 11, 2001? As in any crime, whether it be petty theft or the crime of the century, there is a motive. Why did every investigative body deliberately suppress the motive - the cause - the impetus behind the 911 attacks? Yeah. By complete surprise. No one could have imagined it. Four airliners were hijacked by fanatical Muslims and three reached their targets on September 11, 2001. What could be worth hiding? Indeed. by Michael McCoy (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 487 comments [26 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:53:27 PM  (0+)
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Well done, Michael
We all know why, Michael ~ but will the public ever know and, better yet, do they want to know ? Allen L Roland by Allen L Roland (1045 articles, 7 quicklinks, 44 diaries, 420 comments [15 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:13:15 PM (0+)
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unanswered
Why are members of the 911 Commission still walking around unhindered?Should they not all be under house arrest for conspiracy to obstruct justice? Certainly there is enough evidence around to support such a charge. by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1750 comments [110 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:50:23 PM (0+)
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Bruno
Comment from Ratings: What about the destruction of the crime scenes in NYC and the Pentagon? by Bruno Devolz (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:21:22 AM (0+)
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Anything else?
What is sighted has been evident for some time, written about numerous times, lectured on, and outside of MSM published. Most of the rest of the world already assumes 9/11 was an inside job as a growing number of Americans are starting to see the truth. So what? Because this is where the rubber meets the road, and if one thinks that justice is going to somehow come from our current corrupted system I have a Timeshare to sell you in beautiful downtown Baghdad. Mr. Roland states: "There are no more effective excuses for not re-opening the 9/11 Commission and hopefully this will be done under and Obama administration?" "Hope" in one hand, you know what to do with the other. What makes anyone think that Obama doesn't know who really pulled-off 9/11? Are you that naive to believe that you reach a position of nominee for POTUS in this day and age and get past the Bilderbergs without at least suspecting who pull it off? Obama is complicit in 9/11 as much as any who are covering it up. There isn't a chance in hell of him opening-up anything concerning 9/11 because our entire political system will crumble to dust if it were. Both the Democratic and Republican parties would be regulated to the status of the Nazi party along with this phony Obama. And re-opening the 9/11 Commission is akin to saying you'll re-open the Martin Luther King killings convening the KKK. What makes anyone think those shills will do anything but what they did before? No, I'm sorry, if you want to expose 9/11 it won't be done politely. The system that allowed this crime to happen doesn't respond to "polite" other with disdain and ruthless reaction. 9/11 will have to be a grassroots happening that will culminate in an overthrow of our government, and indeed, governments throughout the world, before justice will be done, and it's going to be anything but orderly. Million, if not billions will die first. The magnitude of the crime is as such that this would have to be so. For it's not only just political parties that will have to fall, but industries, our whole media complex, armies, economic systems and most importantly those few ancient dynasties that sit on top of this pyramid of puss. And I can promise you this, none of this will be done through any channels that exist in the same system that caused 9/11 to begin with. by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:55:08 AM (0+)
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Reply: Thank you, Mr. M.
Good to see some clearheaded logical thinking. American kids write letters to Santa Claus asking for what they want, and when they get older they write letters to Congress asking for what they want. They know that Santa Claus and Congress care about them because they get form letters back with their very own names on them! It never seems to dawn on them that they had better luck with Santa Claus than they'll ever have with Congress. ;) by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:38:05 AM (0+)
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May I add another distinguished and highly credible expert?
Here's one that isn't on your list, Allen, opednews member and contributor David Griscom: David is "a Fellow of the American Physical Society, retired in 2001 from the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC, where he had been a research physicist for 33 years. He has subsequently held visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris, Lyon, and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology; he was also Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering at The University of Arizona in Tucson." From Dr. Griscom's published paper here: "Americans have a right to know exactly what happened on 9/11, and this right justifies a major effort to simulate every millisecond of the collapses by means of supercomputers and perhaps mechanical scale models. For $20 million taxpayer dollars, NIST should already have delivered such. That they did not is inexcusable." by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:26:35 AM (0+)
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Arrogance of the Perpetrators
Looking at the arrogance of the likes of Dick Cheney, George W Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, et.al. the main clue as to who was behind the mass murders is the date chosen - 9/11...... or the designated emergency number of "911"... I do not believe the "hijackers" had any understanding of what those numbers signified to our society, but those of sociopathic ilk of the neocon cult did. I believe they are telling us they did it by the date they chose. Before calling me stupid, think about the sickness of what else these people have done as a result of the mass murders of that day, then look at the sick personalities of these people (remember such things as Bush's searching for those WMDs ---" Not under here, not over there......") These are mentally sick individuals....... by Dennis Kaiser (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 35 diaries, 730 comments [137 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:20:27 AM (0+)
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GOOD POINT, DENNIS ~
These are mentally sick individuals....... Not just mentally sick, Dennis ~ but incapable of handling power responsibly. The true test of a persons character is not how they handle adversity but how do they handle power ~ what goes around, comes around ~ these people are morally corrupt and will have their karmic date with destiny. Allen L Roland by Allen L Roland (1045 articles, 7 quicklinks, 44 diaries, 420 comments [15 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:25:30 PM (0+)
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The Obvious Answer is...
There is a major conspiracy at play. There must be a coverup at the highest levels of government, including House Speaker Pelosi and her crony Reid. This is probably the reason why all of the major news organizations have a total blackout on investigating the significant unanswered questions posed by so-called "conspiracy theories". They have their orders, which they dutifuly and patriotically follow like sheep. It's probably a known secret that the Bush "administration" and the U.S. government helped fund, organize and carry out the 9/11 attacks in order to advance their agenda of energy dominance in the Middle East. It has most likely shamed America's so-called "leaders" into humilation and a conspiracy of silence, those who are not behind this coup undertaken against the American people, but who know about it. Their duty to protect the public whom they serve only in the interim, and their failure to do so, needs to be investigated to the fullest in every aspect with regards to 9/11, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, the anthrax attacks and the economy and energy downfall. Their current position does not entitle them to avoid accountability and justice, nor does their next. They should face prosecution, and if found guilty the imposition of the death penalty should be their fate. by dotmafia (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 127 comments [8 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:41:58 PM (0+)
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I Believe...
That there is a much greater significance and conspiracy behind the choice of the date of September 11, 2001. That month, that day, that exact year. You see, it all has to do with the freemason belief in American "Manifest Destiny" and the Neo-Con's ideology rooted in what is known as the "New World Order", or one world government, in which the United States of America has achieved hegemony and dominance over all other nations of the earth. George H. W. Bush (the elder), proclaimed on September 11th, 1990 in a speech before Congress, EXACTLY ELEVEN YEARS TO THE DAY OF THE ATTACKS -- "Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge." I believe it is no grand co-incidence that this particular speech, and those particular words, spoken by that particular person, share the same date with the day of the attack on America eleven years later. I believe that this speech by the elder Bush was not meant just for the eyes and ears of the people in Congress, or at home watching their TV sets. I think the particular phrase, a "new world order", was code language to Bush's peers or higher masters that their agenda of energy dominance in the Middle East, and thus the world, was beginning to take shape. You must always remember, and take into account, that for freemason and skull and crossbone members, like the Bush's, symbolism with numbers and dates is very important, most especially to people in their positions of seemingly unlimited power. If members of the American public or the so-called Bush "administration" truly were behind the funding, organization, and operation of the 9/11 attacks, then it is most surely no coincidence to the chosen date. If Bush and Cheney really did have little foreknowledge to what their higher masters had planned for that day... then the particular date of the attack likely did not escape their recognition. They would have realized what it meant, and what was being told to them: That the agenda of energy dominance in the Middle East through military intervention, as set forth by the elder Bush on September 11th, 1990, was being put into action once again. And Bush the younger complied. by dotmafia (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 127 comments [8 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:20:54 PM (0+)
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GOOD POINT, DW
That the agenda of energy dominance in the Middle East through military intervention, as set forth by the elder Bush on September 11th, 1990, was being put into action once again ~ and Bush the younger complied. Good point, DW ~ and all their actions since 9/11 have done nothing to dispell that theory. As a matter of fact, all their actions have reinforced their desire for energy dominance in the middle east and McCain is their heir apparent. Allen L Roland by Allen L Roland (1045 articles, 7 quicklinks, 44 diaries, 420 comments [15 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:05:54 PM (0+)
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As usual, Mr. M, you stated
The underlying truth: "No, I'm sorry, if you want to expose 9/11 it won't be done politely. The system that allowed this crime to happen doesn't respond to "polite" other with disdain and ruthless reaction. 9/11 will have to be a grassroots happening thatwill culminate in an overthrow of our government, and indeed, governments throughout the world, before justice will be done, and it's going to be anything but orderly. Million, if not billions will die first. The magnitude of the crime is as such that this would have to be so. For it's not only just political parties that will have to fall, but industries, our whole media complex, armies, economic systems and most importantly those few ancient dynasties that sit on top of this pyramid of puss. And I can promise you this, none of this will be done through any channels that exist in the same system that caused 9/11 to begin with." In other words, The American Hegemony .... and ultimately the Empire above it.... must fall. Will the slaves awaken in time to save themselves and the world? by richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 1359 comments [399 recommended, 8 rejected]) on Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:26:13 AM (0+)
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not a lot of hope
Richard has it about right, I think. And when you look around, you don't see a lot of hope. But we keep fighting. If you're looking for a hopeful vision, check out Green Island http://www.rudemacedon.ca/greenisland.html by siamdave (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 85 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:50:44 PM (0+)
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Reply: Thanks, Dave.
Just downloaded the book and something positive for only $5 is a bargain. by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:42:14 AM (0+)
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