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Under investigation for firing

But Palin’s seemingly bright future was clouded in late July when the state legislature voted to hire an independent investigator to find out whether she tried to have a state official fire her ex-brother-in-law from his job as a state trooper.

The allegation was made by former Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, whom Palin fired in mid-July.

“It is a governor’s prerogative, a right, to fill that cabinet with members whom she or he believes will do best for the people whom we are serving,” Palin told CNBC’s Larry Kudlow in an interview on Aug. 1. “So I look forward to any kind of investigation or questions being asked because I’ve got nothing to hide.”

by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 42 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [8 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:26:11 AM

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Awesome Cheryl and Fearless Leader Rob.

See this link for LA Times treatment of the same story.  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/palin-mccain-vp.html

by Bruce Allen Morris (37 articles, 0 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 55 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:29:08 AM

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Maybe you should read a little more about what the gentleman Gov Palin fired did before you accept only just a few of the things that happen to make Gov Palin look bad if they are true.  In my view she was completely justified in firing the guy.  The fact she had the guts to do so in face of being accused of 'corruption' says a lot about her judgement and courage.  Gov Palin is enormously popular in Alaska among Republicans, Democrats and Indepenents because she consistently does the right thing and doesn't seem to rely on polls or whichever the political winds are blowing like the Senator from Illinois consistently does as you certainly know. 

I just returned from Alaska and while there visited her office in Juneau.  It impressed me greatly.  I did not see any evidence of political ego.  I had to ask her personal secretary for a photo and only saw one of her in the entire building.  Most governors construct shrines to themselves in their capitol buildings.  You have to go to Alaska to understand it politically and environmentally.  I heard, for examples, Democrats who are usually 100% against harming any wildlife (me too) supporting shooting wolves from aircraft.  It is too long of an explanation to go into here but it seemed bizarre to me.  Alaskans are going to vote on it or already have done so recently.

by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:25:25 PM

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of the Democratic party in Alaska, and spoke to a number of other leaders in the democratic party there.

So... which firing are you talking about-- the one while she was governor or the one when she was mayor, where the public paid a private settlement?

And it's no wonder there are no pictures of her in Juneau. She does her work in Anchorage, so she can commute from home, adding to the expense of govt.

The word is it's her way or the highway. But she does not how to pose pretty for the public. People who enter beauty contests are good at that.

by Rob Kall (953 articles, 4178 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:55:58 PM

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Right before it was official, the Dallas Morning News had on its site a piece called:

Five reasons why Sarah Palin is a laugh-out-loud choice for VP
Seriously? Sarah Palin for VP? It's one thing for millions of voters to put forward a sitting senator as a possible commander in chief, but for John McCain ...

by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 42 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [8 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:32:06 AM

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Hmmm...so let's see if we've got this straight ...we have a 'hockey mom' who likes to fish and hunt and is younger than Obama with no Washington experience...who is also a first term governor with sterling credentials as a sports journalist and mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.

 She certainly will be well qualified to assume the role of commander-in-chief should very senior citizen McPander die while in office.

by Daniel Hanley (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:30:21 AM

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IF we want to win, we'd hammer Palin's lack of experience. I don't care about McCain being "bold" in picking her. She is a far right winger; she supports drilling, and extremest non-abortion position, and besides that, she's only served as Governor since 2006! She's only been the Mayor of a City of 8,500! She's NOT qualified to be Vice President! What is McCain thinking?

by Nicholas Smith (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 10 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:14:59 AM

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We must be very careful in lableing her as inexperienced!

by E Lew (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:09:00 PM

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She's not running for president of the PTA -- she's running for Vice President of the United States.  Even if she were running for PTA prez, she should be vetted to insure she has the proper experience and credentials.  The kids would deserve it.   The kids she will be responsible for sending to their deaths if she's VP also deserve it.

Get a grip.

by Sheila Samples (54 articles, 6167 quicklinks, 44 diaries, 601 comments [28 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:46:31 PM

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She is not running for President with no executive like Obama.

It is not good to point this out.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Sep 1, 2008 at 5:23:26 PM

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Agree or not with Bill Clinton's assessment that Obama "hit one out of the park" with his first Presidential decision -- the selection of Joe Biden for VP -- McCain's team, after botching a sacrifice bunt with their absurd "Obama's just a celebrity" ad campaign, appears to have just grounded into a double play to end the inning.

(yeah, I know -- enough with the baseball metaphors)

by Robert Knowles (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 59 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:29:07 AM

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Sarah seems not to really care about the rights of the wildlife in her state over special interests. She feels the polar bear is not really threaten by melting ice caps and she feels it is okay to kill wolves by aerial hunting. Maybe if she became VP she would declare war on wildlife and protecting special interests by putting them under the Threaten Species Act. I am sure McCain wouldn't have a problem with that.

by Rick Theile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 50 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:32:49 AM

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That the above comment would come from a new OEN contributor whose personal website boasts a blogroll consisting of: Americans Against Obama, Chicagoans Against Obama, No Bama Network, Not Wright for America, and Party Unity My Ass (PUMA).

If the if it's not Hillary folks would open their eyes - even slightly - they would see that aside from a similarity in their anatomies, Sarah Palin does not translate into Hillary Clinton. Good Lord, have some sense.

Do you just hate Barack Obama or were you for McCain all along? Or, is it an unhealthy affinity for Hillary Clinton. Do you think Hillary Clinton would vote for Sarah Palin?

by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 42 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [8 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:17:45 PM

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Veterans overwhelming against McCain.  Why?  Because McCain actually hates the armed services because he hated Annapolis, had to be removed from one aircraft carrier before his own men killed him, and blames the military for his imprisonment during Vietnam.  He consistently votes against veteran's benefits but for placing our troops in harm's way.

Currently active servicemen and women in Iraq and Afghanistan contributing to Obama over McCain 6 to 1 in favor of Obama.  Why?  Because Obama saw the truth that Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror, and that we should withdraw from Iraq years before Bush decided to do exactly that thing.  McCain still has not adopted that position.  He is a dinosaur with no understanding at all of the proper conduct of foreign policy.

You will be voting to make abortion a capital offense for the next twenty to thirty years and hundreds of thousands of female teens will die agonizing deaths because you trust this ignorant old man and this rabid right wing ideologue more than Obama because both Obama and Clinton stooped to some pretty low tactics to gain the nomination.  So you want to punish all of the young poor females of America because you lost.  Talk about an ego!

You need to see a therapist before you ruin any more lives than you already have.  You would rather put the nuclear option in the hand of this completely unknown personality than the proven reasonableness of Obama and Biden.  In my book, that is called sociopathy.  

by W.M.L. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 537 comments [52 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:03:14 PM

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Cindie, 

I might find your statement more credible and compelling  if you could substantiate your distrust.  Could it be that you have been heavily influenced by propoganda and not able to think for yourself. 

I believe that vision and pragmatism, such as offered by the team of Obama/Biden will offer the change this country is so desperately in need of.

A woman, such as Gov Palin,  who supports the raping and despoiling of a once very pristine State in the name of more money for her state (sound like Saudi Arabia to me) is highly questionable in my opinion. Of course she is popular in Alaska, Alaskan residents get a portion of the tax revenues.  All this boils down to again, as with our connection to the Middle East, is money.  And imagine how much would be left of the $1200 or so that each Alaskan gets each year for this tax revenue if it must be shared by the whole country? Or perhaps it will be solely pocketed by those that now currently benefit.  Same old stuff, just wrapped in a prettier picture! 

by Lisa Akers (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:19:14 AM

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Sorry, not everyone here thinks Obama is the next coming of Christ.

If there is a real problem with Palin then point it out.

So far I've heard none.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Sep 1, 2008 at 5:28:11 PM

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 McCain is trotting her out for the first time in Dayton, OH, at Wright State University, at the NUTTER CENTER. 

by John Wood Sr (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 101 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:24:10 PM

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McCain picked an absolute nobody with no experience in a fruitless attempt to pick up the female vote.  I was at a political picnic yesterday and there were a lot of women there. 

Every one, not just a few, EVERYONE said McCains choice amounted to an insult to women.  The consesus is they now are certain that McCain has no clue about women and that he thinks they are mindless enough to vote for him now just because he picked a woman for his VP.

My 93  year old mother saw through that instantely and she used to be a McCain supporter in the past.  She is all for Obama now; McCain insulted her intelligence.

She said it probably won't matter anyway because any woman dumb enough to vote McCain because of Palin was probably already dumb enough to vote McCain anyway. ( zero vote gain )

by Paul Kruger (39 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 304 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:48:35 AM

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Comment from Ratings:   Great story of another historical moment. The Energy, NRA, Pro-life, against the status-quo executive Veep pick. She Canceled the funds for the Bridge to no where. Military Family, Son signed up on Sept 11, 2008. This race just got a lot more exciting! The 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling have a way to burst through.

by Albert Milliron (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 3 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:55:40 AM

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This is a pip! What genius on McCain's staff thought of this one? They have just handed the election to Obama, thank heavens!

She is against the polar bears survival, her political decisions have been questionable - the thing about her sister's ex husband being punished for something that she should have recused herself from.

 She has too many children. (Remember the planet?)

She is a lifetime member of the NRA. Really?

She's an all round gem. She has been in office for two minutes in a state that seems to have no conscience about some really important issues. They think Ted Stevens is an okay guy.

They think it's fine to drill anywhere in the world and don't understand that we're trying to get ourselves out of the oil business in favor of green forms of energy. 

In short, she's a perfect match for Grampa Diapers.

by Caronome (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 327 comments [15 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:07:11 PM

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I think the important point isn't that Dems can't criticize Palin for lack of experience. The Palin pick has taken away the Repub argument about Obama, and exposed their former concern as hypocritical. On the other hand, Dems don't need to make inexperience an issue. Her record and her performance in the campaign (especially the debate) should do McCain plenty of damage without help from the Dems. 

by Jim Arnold (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 147 comments [18 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:29:14 PM

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She says she's about free markets, yet she signed Alaska's largest state budget last year.

Not to mention she supports regulating the dairy industry & the energy industry.

As Senator MasterCard (Biden) said, "this isn't change, it's more of the same".

by Darren Wolfe (15 articles, 401 quicklinks, 141 diaries, 1031 comments [84 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:31:47 PM

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I think it was Bill Moyers show that exposed a lot of the corruption of Sen Stevens..He made the Governer look like a grat MAVERICK,FIGHTER OF cORRUPTION,forceful,action packed ,go get em....Jean

by mcmahon (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:35:16 PM

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and I mean BASICS. A young woman and an old man. This means: he can still get it up. That's all it really means. Obama/Biden--a young briliant man and a savy father figure.

 Back in 2002 when McCain was running for Pres. he called the Vietnamese "gooks." What's next. Doesn't matter; that is what is really in his head; that is how he thinks; that is how anyone aligning with him thinks.

Take it to basics. Don't need a lot of rhetoric.

by karen timmons (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 8 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:35:19 PM

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Will he call her a 'trollop' and the "C" word like he did his wife? Can he say "F" you to a christian person who is a practicing evangelical?

by JOHN LORENZ (23 articles, 118 quicklinks, 119 diaries, 313 comments [25 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:22:44 PM

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 Remember John, McCain married a beauty queen the first time around,dumped her when she became handicapped,lost her beauty and got fat, married another beauty queen and called her a trollop and a C---, then names  another beauty queen  his Vice Presidential partner. Seems being a beauty queen is a precondition for being involved with McCain.

This man has no respect for women, so I expect he has some of the same in store, for Palin...we must all remember however, that Republican women are good little Christian women..never do they stand up and say NO!!!. ( example.. Cindy) she follows along with a smile on her face, even when he calls her names..... Now if I had the power  and money she has, no way would the man I married call me names like that...Presidential run or not, he'd get smacked right in the face, Me and my money would leave. 

by gwili Brunner (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:56:29 AM

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by Rady Ananda (182 articles, 374 quicklinks, 49 diaries, 1718 comments [201 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:41:27 PM

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http://video.aol.com/video-detail/palin-featured-in-vogue/1789590682

Vogue calls her a str8 shooter; and a republican outsider.

by Rady Ananda (182 articles, 374 quicklinks, 49 diaries, 1718 comments [201 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:30:33 PM

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But Bush 1 picked Dan Quayle to make himself impeachment proof after the Iran/Contra affair, not because Quayle was young.  There were young, but smart, alternatives to have on the ticket.  Quayle was the first sign that things had gone from bad to very, very, bad in America.  Such a pick showed no regard at all for the future of the country, but only for the future of the Bushes.

by W.M.L. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 537 comments [52 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:12:19 PM

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Who cares who McCain selects for VP - unless it was Kucinch, or Ron Paul, what does it matter?

All of these articles pontificating on a system that it rotten to it's core, is akin to discussing how rotten a caress is, and which part of that rotten caress is for you.  

The news is corrupt, the system is corrupt, both parties and nearly every one of them in it and those who participate in it, to the man and women are corrupt. Yet supposedly intelligent people, that will know this, will chew on the rotten meat, talking nonsense as the caresses rotten meat kills them.

I have come to the conviction that the there really is no way to break through the stranglehold of propaganda that has seemingly infected the minds of masses of people that otherwise function as thinking human-beings. Save for myself, and far too few others, people are so entrenched into the matrix that blinds them to deeper truths.

I really can't blame them. The truth in this case isn't pretty. 

In this truth there is no Democratic leader that's going to "save the day". There's no Republican one either. In this truth there are murders masquerading as leaders and fools that follow them. In this truth these murders get away with their crimes, commit more crimes in plain sight, mock the believers as the believers continue to praise the murders.  

It's an ugly truth.

This truth makes fools of those that spend time and effort nuance things they should be condemning and victims of us all. This truth leads us into a New World Order that enslaves us all. This truth flings open the doors to the Apocalypse and gives credence to the Four Horsemen to ravage the land.

This truth praises the murders who planned, executed and continue to cover-up 9/11.

This truth is that Obama knows who those people are, that McCain knows who they are, and that McCain's pick for VP, either knows who they are, or if she doesn't, proves she's unfit to lead a dog on a leash.

The 800lb. Gorilla won't go away. He's big, ugly, and as real as those poor souls that perished on September 11, 2001. He is 9/11. And no amount of pretending he doesn't exist, articles that don't mention him, and any one's inane thoughts about things other than this are irrelevant.

Because if you come to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job you realize that there is no way you can believe in this system anymore. That everything that spews from the mouths of those in this system are either naive or lies. That there isn't a single real thing there. That McCain, Obama, both their parties, the media, and the system they support are the Matrix and that if you listen to them and believe them, and support them that you are also part of the fabric that murders and enslaves you.

This truth makes a fool of you.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:47:39 PM

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I don't see you putting out any solutions. You post on any article, saying, basically, the same thing. Don't you get tired of it.

by Rob Kall (953 articles, 4178 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:07:59 PM

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You bet I'm tired of it. But it's like this hurricane that's bearing down on us (again), it can't be ignored.

You tell me Rob, if you found out a member of your family was a mass murderer would you still welcome them to the table? Would you ignore the blood on their hands? Would you?

Because that's what 9/11 is to me - something that can't be ignored. It's the murderer at the table, the hurricane looking to rip your life apart.

I don't want to keep pounding on this, I would love to focus my attention on something else, but when you realize the magnitude of it everything else pales and morphs into it.

You think I enjoy this? Hell I can't enjoy hardly anything anymore. I stand in line at the bank and I'm thinking, how many know? I go to a festival I feel compelled to ask people what they think. I often get the evasive "this isn't the place/time to talk about this", and my answer is where is that place and time? Where is that you go to get relief from the hell of knowing you're living with a murderer? How long does one wait?

You talk of candidates and the first thing I think is, what do they know? If I hear them spewing crap about fighting the terrorists, I want to puke, because I know that they're either incredibly naive, which would be a stretch, or they know, and once you know that, how can you stand to listen to them beyond that? When that murderer sitting at your table asks you to pass them the meat and they reach out their bloody hand, what do you do? Give it to them?

I see all our problems, all these other things that are posted about near any problematic political situation we have vanish by holding the people of 9/11 accountable for their crimes. We get rid of these cretins and our lives would change dramatically for the better.

Name me a better way to do it?

Voting them out? How?  If the system is corrupt enough that they murder us they sure as hell aren't worried about us voting them out when they own the machines, and both candidates. So all this nonsense about talking trivia about which one of these murders picked which murder to run with them seems rather trite.

You ask for a solution, okay, my solution is to get people talking about this, to put it first and foremost, because as long as it isn't, the longer we spend our energy on lesser things, the longer these murders remain free. This is one snake you have to kill by chopping of the head, working from the tail up will only get you bit.

You want to fund health-care? Okay, get rid of the people that committed 9/11 and you'll have it, because they're the same people who keep health-care from us. Or maybe you think that people that murder you give a fat-rat's-ass about your health? Maybe you think if you keep "putting pressure on them" that they'll care?

You want alternative energy? Great. Get rid of the people that committed 9/11, because they surely are the ones behind it, and you'll have alternative energy.

Want environmential protection? Fair taxes? Immigration reform? What do you want Rob? Because the answer is all there, right in front of you, get rid of the murderers that committed 9/11 and you'll get it. You won't have to wait for the system to work, because as long as these cretins are in power it won't!

You think Obama doesn't know who the murders are? Are you willing to say that? And if you can suspect he knows, by what moral compass do you use to ignore that conclusion? What makes you shut you eyes and pass the meat?

No one is forcing you to read my posts. You can ignore them like you ignore all the other obvious facts of this ugly truth. Go, go back to ignoring the fact that there are a good many people in power that you talk to who are the people that committed mass murder, or at the very least covering up for those that did - just don't look at their hands, or yours either for that matter.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:47:14 PM

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I also understand Rob's. And, for that matter, my own. But you're living in a bubble that won't pop. You need to decompress a little. I had the same problem when I learned the truth and still do. But I wouldn't say I'm obsessed over it. Why not? I don't know. I guess I'm just a fatalist. Not that I've accepted the fate for us in 1984 like the elitists want, just that I know that their problem is that the sleeping masses might awaken someday if their moves on the chessboard ever become too obvious. When will that be? I don't know. I just hope and pray it's soon. In the meantime, I'm seriously considering voting for the lesser of two evils this time. I really liked Obama's speech last night.

Do I suggest you vote the same? No, I know you won't do that and I understand why. But like I said, you need to decompress some how, some way. It won't be easy, but the alternative is bad for your health, both mental and physical. We're in this for the long haul. Take the long view. That doesn't mean compromising your values per se, but it might mean taking it down a notch.

Relieve the pressure. Take a breath. Breathe. 

by Sam Adams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:17:14 PM

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My dear mr m - I find nothing in your arguments that I really disagree with. You bet the perpetraitors (sic) of 911 are behind a lot of evil stuff, but then again how far are you willing to take things in terms of your own belief systems? Who controls planetary policy, human genetics, fundamentalist religions, global warming, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere, and ultimate destinies for both humans and all the other animals we share the planet with? Have you ever read "Gods of Eden" by Bramley? While most learned folks scoff at alien meddling in planetary affairs, I can assure you that not only is it real, but is an issue that supercedes even politics. In fact I think everything we deal with is predicated upon a fact few are willing to recognize as being the fundamental problem about the true nature of our existence. Once you scrutinize things from this perspective, all the subsequent evils in the world all of a sudden make some sense. Get a grasp of the bigger picture if you really want to be angry about something. Then take another look at secret societies. While I may be a fatalist, at least I'm an informed one.

by Cinderfella (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 248 comments [95 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:53:29 PM

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Kinda ridiculous, eh. But at least we don't see this nonsense in every article with a lot of comments. We DO see your repetitive, obsessive comments, regardless of the topic.

I'm sorry, but you DO need to chill. Your Hamlet routine is basically thread hijacking. Where you see blood everywhere, others see a bully who gets angrily aggressive, blaming and unpleasant. 

You have to modulate your anger and cut back on posting comments that express it on so many articles.  I hate to do it, because I know you care and are sincere, but it's just too much and I believe it turns off conversations by others who want to talk about what's actually discussed in the articles.

by Rob Kall (953 articles, 4178 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:10:54 PM

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I thought you might toss in a scoff if I threw mr m a curveball about aliens. While I'll save further comment on that for a more appropriate occasion (perhaps an article) - I will add my own tidbytes on McCain's vp: I think she's the perfect choice to add balance to the repug ticket - she adds depth and beauty to a stark and shallow running mate :) I mean if you're already scraping the bottom of the barrel in your apple bobbing, you may as well pick a plum. One must realize that McInsane et al only get their marching orders from backroom deadenders anyway whose names are rarely bantered about. Does anyone think seriously that Chimpy calls the shots? And who pulls Cheney's strings? Everyone has to answer to somebody. That's a given.

by Cinderfella (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 248 comments [95 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:16:27 AM

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I have actually investigated many of them.  I take what I need and leave the rest.  I then take what I learned and enlighten others.   Likely, many others do so as well.  It is my hope that from small seeds, something large may grow.   I think you provide a public service, and in a democratic society, people can simply choose to not read your posts.

It is a horrifying reality we are in and a far uglier one on the horizon, not only here but globally.  It is difficult to carry on and do normal stuff knowing such things and feeling so helpless.  Everything is painted black and good God it has been so long in coming into being and touches every single aspect, spare none, of every atom on earth... I don't think it can be stopped. 

Am I livid... am I very sad?  Hell yes.  I pray that it's all part of the terror of it and soon we will all emerge from this nightmare. 

Just as the power elite created the false economy they have also crafted a false reality through the media.   Think on it... we are told that polls indicate that our primary concern is $4 gas and the high cost of food... really?  My primary concers, and the concerns of everyone I know is first the war and bringing our youth home from that immoral hell, the second concern is impeaching the bastards... all of the bastards who started this.  Now they tell us that more than 60% want to drill and Pelosi is blocking us from doing so.  As much as I despise her and know I am not the only one, in reality, and I've discussed this with many, many people... I don't know a single person who thinks its a good idea to drill.  So, who's reality is this?  Do we believe we are the reason Obama is allowed to run for President?  Why were others disappeared?

I know Obama is not the answer because the Democrats all made these same noises to get elected two years ago, only the rhetoric was "impeachment" and "get us out of war" then they proceeded to do what they wanted and tuned out our pleas.  Their campaign "promises" were just empty words.  You will not see impeachment in any mainstream news... you will not hear any truths and very little disparaging facts of our leaders.  Now, the coldest cut of all is to play on the only thing left to us... HOPE.  That's pretty sinister. 

I don't think there's any stopping this crazy train. 

by bucketslogg (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 259 comments [99 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:14:08 PM

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It seems some have alluded to the same information.  Just want to let you know that it refers to the PUMA issue. 

by Margaret Bassett (45 articles, 2909 quicklinks, 42 diaries, 1853 comments [99 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:01:24 PM

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At 1:53 the conversation begins about the possibility of her become the vp pick. At 2:50 she says she still can't answer all the questions about anything because she doesn't know what a vp does!  She wants to know if that vp position is a "fruitful position especially for Alaskans and the things we are trying to accomplish up here"  HELLO, is her acceptance of the vp nomination based on what that position can do for Alaska?

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:02:17 PM

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click here I don't know why the link to the youtube didn't post. 

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:05:29 PM

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your link didn't work for me. in case it doesn't work for others, i think this is what you're referring to:

Sarah Palin Interview: What does the VP do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gkPXSDtGQ

by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 42 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [8 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:17:22 PM

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My stuff on Sarah Palin is the MOST hit topic on my blog, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com. I get hits on that even from Isreal (????) according to my sitemeter.  I found a real good "beauty queen" pic of her that I posted and that lures them in real well.

She's the female equivalent of Dick - the Prick - Cheney, imho.

by ladybroadoak (39 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 394 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:08:03 PM

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Sara is a good choice, I am an Alaskan independent voter and I voted for her.

All this noise about an investigation for the firing of Walt Monigan (director of public safety) is over blown and the pressure to fire a particular State Trooper are founded as that the trooper had taserd a minor and threatened his estranged wife and her family. She has shown integrity by walking out on Frank Murkowski's oil and gas commission for Murkowski's bowing to big oil concerns. She did a good job as Mayor of Wassila. She also seems to have little use for the good ol' boy networks or big business concerns that infringe on little people. While some seem to feel that she lacks experience she has more of that
than a certain prep school punk, who's name need not be mentioned and he was made the leader of the free world. Obamas probably still going to get my vote but Sara is still a good choice. Good luck SARA!!

by Keith Hupp (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:19:44 PM

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Better ethics, more willing to take on special interests maybe....maybe, not sure..and I'm certainly not fooled by her "maverick conservative stance" on things but I fear that she'll attract votes to McCain from the right-leaning independents....I fear  a lot of independents will think she makes McCain more palatable. That's the danger. The Democrats laugh her off at their own peril. They laughed off Spiro Agnew and Dan Quayle as no-brain-picks but the Republicans won those  years and the Democrats got fooled into false complacency. One upside is that now  McCain won't be able to hammer on Obama for lack of experience anymore since his VEEP has much less experience than Obama did when nomintated for the presidency.

What I fear the most is that she will serve as a smokescreen to hide McCain's right wing extremism and lull a lot of unwary voters who don't know that a right winger, is a right winger, is a right winger....doesn't matter differences in style, they all end up kowtowing to the "let the rich have anything they want" mentality.

by JOHN LORENZ (23 articles, 118 quicklinks, 119 diaries, 313 comments [25 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:31:35 PM

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Sara Palin, according to OnTheIssues.org, has virtually no stance on a litany of issues. Her voting record is not scarce; it is virtually non-existent. She tallies an astounding and astonishing 14 “No issue stance yet recorded” positions as registered by OnTheIssues.org.

Most IMPORTANTLY, Sarah Palin on Foreign Policy has NO stated position! No quotes, no position, no view, no outlook, no attitude, no experience – there is absolutely no substantive way to vet her viewpoint on Foreign Policy as it is wholly absent!

So much for the “experience matters” argument from John McCain.

by Frank J. Ranelli (66 articles, 143 quicklinks, 29 diaries, 383 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:26:32 PM

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She's an idiot. 

check this out at http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006_07_30_archive.html, linked by Talking Points Memo 

 11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
JB: No.
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

We all know, of course, that "Under God" was not added to pledge until the Dwight Eisenhower administration in the mid-1950's and the pledge itself was not created until the late 19th century, more than 100 years after our nation's founding.

by Bruce Allen Morris (37 articles, 0 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 55 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:21:24 PM

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by Bruce Allen Morris (37 articles, 0 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 55 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:53:07 PM

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Here's the Google cached page. I suggest you save it somewhere on your computer before it expires in the Google cache.

http://tinyurl.com/5wg84d

by Ron R. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 152 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:33:41 AM

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 Her husband is an oil production operator for BP on Alaska's North Slope.

She has pushed to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling and to build a natural-gas pipeline from Alaska's North Slope, and earlier this year she sued the Interior Department over its decision to list the polar bear as a threatened species. Palin recently proposed eliminating Alaska's gas tax and got the state legislature to pass a bill to provide each Alaskan $1,200 to help with energy bills.

She also recently opposed a statewide ballot initiative to prohibit or restrict new mining operations that could affect salmon in the state's streams and rivers, even though she's an avid angler and hunter herself.

She has created a committee to forge Alaska's climate-change strategy, and has made Alaska an observer (but not a member) of the Western Climate Initiative. But that doesn't mean she has any sort of beef with Big Oil (in fact, her husband is an oil production operator for BP on Alaska's North Slope). She said earlier this week, "When I look every day, the big oil company's building is right out there next to me, and it's quite a reminder that we should have mutually beneficial relationships with the oil industry."

by Betty Hamilton (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:41:03 PM

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a) do not ride the NRA wave this time if you know what's good for you.

b) do not touch the gender part of this with a ten foot pole.

c) give up digging for skeletons in this persons garden, there are none.

and in conclusion....

d) turn to your favored candidates and concentrate on them,

i.e., IF you're still following those carrots around town.

My oh my. This is turning out to be a damned good circus. With so many clowns, good clowns and that 800lb gorilla sittin' there laughing at us all....btu we don't see him or we don't seem to care. Life goes on and the circus keeps getting better and better ; this time around, we have two things we didn't expect to come to be this quickly.

1) the possibilty of a black man becoming pResident of the United States of America, some call it the "greatest of all Nations" and

2) a female as VP

Aforking Mazing. What a great circus. I'm really impressed with what the corParty has come up with this time. We're talking REAL CHANGEs here, but BIG TIME! I wish I were wrong but somehow, I don't thing this circus is gonna cause for any change at all except for the huge spot it leaves where the tents once stood ...after it leaves town. The MIC isn't gonna go away. That 800lb Gorilla isn't gonna go away and we are going to continue to avoid looking at him. He'l be right there, right where he is right now, even after the circus of the century packs up and leaves town.

Sorry, this is about Sarah P. My take, to sooth the nerves....is the polar bear. Baby polar bears. Dead baby polar bears. Red on white. Bloody baby polar bear carcases and the day the last polar bear is killed...to make way for a pipeline or a drilling station. Gotta protect them guys working on the oil rigs from them terror-laden polar bears. This great nation, this greatest nation of all nations (blablabla) needs the oil more than it needs dem dare bearz.

How can anybody be against polar bears? That's almost as sick as not wanting to see the 800lb gorilla!

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:22:07 PM

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explanation......

"a) do not ride the NRA wave".......

meaning, guns-R-us or, the tide has changed on this subject. Liberals are no longer looking to ban guns or see the introduction of stricter gun-control laws. Careful with THAT knife, Eugene. It could backfire onyaz!

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:27:05 PM

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Condi Rice, Monica Goodling, Sarah Palin.  All in the-single minded pursuit of Republicanism, all the time, everywhere.

The most meaningful contribution I can make to profiling Palin is the very sad, obvious fact that she is a Republican.

by Ed Martin (139 articles, 0 quicklinks, 35 diaries, 173 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:25:37 PM

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Or the first Dude as he is affectionately known here abouts is a blue collar slope worker not some muck with a starched white collar, they are both regular folks. I hate to see them torn up by insider and partisan squabbles. As for the polar bears I fear that they are going to make way for the new northern passage that is growing in the far north, so what else is new? And the clean water initiative was skewed big outside funding and a lot of people who feed their family's due to mineral extraction here in state and legal arguments in opposition to the ballot initiative are all ready under way. As for the 1200.00 energy rebate I'm still scratching my head over that one, though we do have some of the highest gas prices at the pump even though we produce our own gas and oil and the main natural gas producer ENSTAR is on line to receive a 40% rate increase come Jan. 2009 during the coldest time of year, go figure. So if MC-Bush gets elected we could do much worse than Sara Palin as VP.

by Keith Hupp (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:50:53 PM

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"Is Sarah Palin the first Pentecostal to make it onto a major political ticket?"

click here to the website for the Wasilla Assembly of God, and and check it out. The pastor of this church laid his hands on Gov. Palin just this summer. They believe in the rapture of course:

Click what do we believe:

WE BELIEVE...in The Millennial Reign of Christ when Jesus returns with His saints at His second coming and begins His benevolent rule over earth for 1,000 years. At that time many in the nation of Israel will recognize and accept Him as the Messiah, the Savior who died for them and all mankind.

WE BELIEVE...A Final Judgment Will Take Place for those who have rejected Christ. They will be judged for their sin and consigned to eternal punishment in a punishing lake of fire.

She also favors teaching "intelligent design" in addition to science in the schools though interestingly her father was a science teacher .

This is all we need a heartbeat away from a heart-patient president, a creationist, rapturist, laying on of the hands "president in waiting" who if she doesn't know what a vp does, God only knows what she thinks a president does.

(ps-I must be doing something wrong to post links, but just google the title of that article I gave up there to find it-it's in the Dallas Morning News religion section-and google the church to find that also)

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:57:25 PM

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Robin, you've just described half of america there. My impression of today's america during a recent visit : it's Sunday morning and ........

THE STREETS ARE EMPTY !!!

The Pentacostal tag won't work. It will assist Sarah and ....McWar. America is on her knees, praying for the return of sweet baby jesus. A good half are. We all belong in the Pub, but instead, we're hiding in the churches. And when the churches let out, we grab our guns and ruch off to the local gun club to practice using our new gun.  

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:20:00 PM

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You said the Pentacostal tag won't work because it describes half of America. The purpose of this post by Rob I thought was to build a profile on Sarah. Up above he noted she is Catholic so I was correcting that is all. You're right, it will appeal to that element. On another note, (since for some reason I can't post links), Sarah said she has only met McCain once or twice, and that was in 2006! In other words, this "pick" was precisely because he has problems with the Evangelicals, so he picked a 44 year old ex-mayor of a SMALL town, former sports-caster-beauty queen, first time govenor (less than half way through her term) MOM-rifle toting anti-polar bear Pentacostal with no idea what a vp does who has NO foreign policy experience.

YEP, a real winner for the crowd he was seeking to win over :)

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:37:38 PM

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by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:13:56 PM

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Check out the youtube "Wasilla Assembly Of God - Dive"

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:15:11 PM

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Joe Biden: "Governor Palin, I serve in the Senate with Hillary Clinton. I know Hillary Clinton; Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine. Governor, you are NO Senator Clinton!"

Seriously, this McCain VP choice is an insult to all women. Does McCain actually think by choosing a woman, based on gender alone, that female, former Hillary supporters will not see through this ruse? Palin espouses and approves of every radical agenda put forth by the Bush administration.

She is the antithesis of Hillary, the Democratic Party platform and the change 81 percent of Americans want. McCain is desperate, but woman voters, those 18 million who voted for Hillary, and who now support Obama, will never buy this canard.

This will never work, as Palin's very presence on the ticket is owed to Hillary and the very Party Palin stand in opposition to and firmly against – she is everything that Hillary is not!

However, this is the best gift-wrapped political present Obam-Biden could have every received from the McCain camp.

"Dan Quale in a Pony Tail," as one blogger put it – only she is even less qualified than Quale; and that is saying a lot!

by Frank J. Ranelli (66 articles, 143 quicklinks, 29 diaries, 383 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:50:49 PM

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Were you aware of how close Mrs Clinton came to being indicted for multiple felonies in connection with Filegate and Travelgate?   She was guilty and because the prosecutors were faced with bringing a First Lady to trial in Washington DC where the chances of her being convicted were around 0% she was not indicted.  The woman spawned a cottage industry of book publishing centered around her total lack of character.  Read a couple of them. Contrast that to any other First Lady.  She has accomplished absolutely nothing in her life. 

by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:37:50 PM

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A review of some hard facts:

When McCain won New Hampshire in 2000, and Bush and his henchmen hoisted the subsequent vicious lies and character assassination on him, I was sympathetic to McCain - and felt my first, (of many to come), revulsions for Bush and cohorts.

But when I saw McCain embrace, actually hug Bush when McCain became the Republican nominee, I felt that same revulsion, anew.

McCain was sucking up in the most repulsive way imaginable, completely devoid of dignity and honor. He looked exceedingly small - weak - and subservient.

While on a recent visit to the middle east war zone, with Joe Lieberman in tow, McCain made reference to the troublesome Iraq/Afghanistan border. Iraq/Afghanistan border? Anything wrong with that picture?  Joe corrected him under his breath.

McCain's flips on mildly important matters makes his flops on the major issues downright scary. His frequent maleablility belies his "Maverickness". Increasingly, he is being groomed and rehearsed about the issue de jur, and demonstrates poor recall, often reciting like a monotoned robot.

The single, most disturbing aspect of McCain serving Bush's third term, is that McCain seems as oblivious to the gravity of the office he seeks as much as Bush has shamed and perverted it.

But let's look at some hard, indisputeable evidence, on the record:

• 1998-2003 - John McCain enthusiastically espoused the delusion about cheap and easy Middle East wars, and sponsored Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress (INC) organization, even though the CIA had cut it off for producing faulty intelligence.

(Anybody remember Chalabi and "curveball", both documented liars on the most serious of matters, yet the two main sources of "information" to justify the invasion of Iraq?)

• 1998 - McCain was a co-sponsor of the Iraq Liberation Act that led to the creation of a false intelligence factory that replaced CIA Iraq reporting. He led charges in the Senate about Iraqi WMD programs that U.S. intelligence was reporting didn’t exist.

• 2001-2003 - Using $100 million allocated by the Act cosponsored by McCain, Ahmed Chalabi’s INC generated the false intelligence about nonexistent mobile bioweapons labs cited as part of the case for the Iraq invasion. INC Chalabi’s group was paid $335,000 a month in the lead-up to the Iraq war to gather intelligence.

• 2003 - McCain and four other Republican Senators made an appeal to Bush to "personally clear the bureaucratic roadblocks within the State Department" that stood in the way of even more funding for the INC McCain acted as a character witness for Chalabi, stating "He’s a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart."

• Prior to advocating in favor of the October, 2002 Iraq War Resolution, McCain read the classified CIA National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), and was briefed on multiple occasions about it. While he knew that U.S. intelligence was split over Iraq WMDs, McCain never said anything publicly about the other view contained in the classified documents in which he had been given special access.

• 05/03 – present - Even after the Iraq WMD deception and failed occupation became clear, McCain has refused to acknowledge that he had been wrong all along about the justifications for the Iraq War, and says he would vote again for that war, and again vote to fund Chalabi.

• Senator McCain still avoids taking responsibility for his role in the Iraq intelligence failure, perhaps for no better reason than he kept some distance between himself and operatives at the Pentagon and in the Office of the Vice President who actually carried out the policy, some of whom were later convicted of espionage and related charges.

• 1997-present - The McCain campaign’s chief publicist, Charlie Black, a powerful GOP lobbyist, has protected and promoted the cause of Ahmad Chalabi’s INC organization in Washington since 1997, and also played a major role in spreading INC disinformation.

• 1997-present – As the Iraq War plan developed, Black’s lobbying firm has received hundreds of millions from U.S. companies doing Iraq War related business, a substantial portion of the profits from which Black has funneled back to McCain and other prominent GOP leaders

Does all this mean I'll vote for Obama, yet another two-faced chameleon?  Does it really matter?

The game is fixed. Does it take more than the voting fiascos of 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006 to make the case any clearer? The decision has been made by people we will never see. And the men behind the curtain are certain that the selectee will march to the orders that he's been given.

Any sensible overview of American history and politics reveals a sinister infection of grand, hidden agendas - the likes of which are progressing swimmingly.

A crippled constitution. Mainstream media's assimilation into the executive branch. A spineless Congress. The Pentagon as the bottomless pit for our money. The unconstitutional, privately owned Federal Reserve firmly in control of our national monetary policies.

Consumer and labor protection agencies, gutted. Big oil, big pharma and military industry dictating government priorities. Sanitized history poured into our children's minds. Unprecedented national debt, personal debt and trade decifits.

The vote that I choose not to cast may be deemed an act of protest, an attempt to retain dignity in the grand hoax called an election or simply a silenced voice. But I employ my voice in myriad ways, on countless occasions and in many venues where it stands a vastly better chance of making a genuine difference.

In addition, like it makes a difference:

In what looks like is to be yet another circumvention of that pesky constitution, McCain's birth records, in combination with the 14th Amendment and Article II of the US constitution clearly disqualifies McCain from seeking or occupying the office of President of the United States.

Here's the short form.

1. The 14th Amendment and matching policy limit citizenship to either natural born or naturalized, but not both.
2. John McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
3. 8 USC 1403(a) declares naturalized citizenship in 1952 on persons born in the Panama Canal Zone to citizen parents.
4. Therefore, 8 USC 1403(a) applies to John McCain at age 16.
5. Therefore, John McCain is a naturalized citizen.
6. By treaty, the Panama Canal Zone was not part of the United States.
7. Therefore, John McCain was not born in the United States.
8. Therefore, John McCain is a citizen not born in the United States.
9. Therefore, John McCain is not a natural born citizen.
10. Article II of the Constitution states to be President a person must be a natural born citizen.
11. Therefore, John McCain is not eligible to be President of the United States under Article II of the Constitution. He should be decertified and removed from all present and future Presidential ballots. His past results should be disallowed, including unbinding all of his committed delegates.

It's that simple, cloud it any way you wish. Go check for yourself.

by Michael McCoy (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 488 comments [28 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:52:24 PM

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FINALLY someone mentions that Palin's husband is with BP Oil (British Petro). He may fish, but that is not what his money source is. She has been pushing to "drill drill drill" and in ANWR most certainly. I say whip the words right back at the McSame camp, "too young", "too inexperienced" "too rich-disconnected to middle class", too monied up with lobbyists especially BIG OIL. And, do you really think Mac can keep his hands off a 44 yr old? A Navy horndog that never could even curb his sex life from others WHILE married. Come on, get real.

And these ppl saying they are voting for Mac because Hillary didn't make it. GET REAL!!  Either you are Prochoice as HILL is, pro equal pay as Hill is, pro a Nat'l healthcare as HIll is. You're no Democrat if you can vote anti choices, anti equal pay etc. You are a repub that just suckered into Rush's Operation chaos and you think you can carry it out to the end. Well, it won't work. I guarantee it. When the rubber hits the road, your vote will always be and always was for Repub McSame and YOU can't fool me, you fake Hill supporters!

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:33:53 PM

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BRAVO ... The same thoughts run through my mind daily.  

I jumped out of the left/right vehicle a long time ago, because when one really does the research you will find that our country is really run by the ruling elite, global bankers, special interest lobbies, think tanks, public-private partnerships, non-government organizations, intelligence agencies.  

I thoroughly agree with you, until we resolve 9/11 and many other unresolved issues, we will never obtain the high degree of principles that this nation was founded upon, Freedom, Liberty, and Individuality. 

by Joann (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 45 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:39:06 PM

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I am not certain these are the “family values” most archetypical conservatives have in mind, nor is it very Vice-Presidential, now is it?

Honestly, did they vet this woman at all?

Meet Super Model Sarah Palin!

by Frank J. Ranelli (66 articles, 143 quicklinks, 29 diaries, 383 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:06:56 PM

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That is a photoshopped picture of her on the front of vogue.  Google "Vogue govenor issue, Sarah Palin" and you'll come up with an AOL video which will tell you that photo never was in Vogue.  That doesn't answer where it DOES come from though.  Photoshopped?  Probably, but maybe not.

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:29:38 PM

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can't compete with one of ours over here. God is good, God is gracious. God gives and God is love. Good love. Even in jammies. All within limits for most ....liberals?!? Now I'm corn-fused. Dammit Frank!

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:31:13 PM

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What's interesting about Palin as a choice is her reformist credentials (taking them at their word that they're bona fide) because it clearly hits the Democrats at one of their weak points.  There are just too many instances of them backing special interests and corporate power to comb over.

But it begs the question:  if she's a real reformer what the hell is she doing with the Republicans?  I loved hearing Ralph Reed on NPR talking her up as a change agent.  Who's waggin' who?  Another case of the Republicans trying to run against themselves.

I would call her out on the reform issue.  Sarah, if you want to get the support of independents who are fed up with the bullshit in Washington, join us in opening up the debates to independent parties.  Then we'd have a clear picture of who the reformers are.

Come to think of it, if the Democrats wanted to show her up as a phony crusader all they'd have to do is open the debates themselves.  Naw, its much simpler to keep it to themselves, posture as reformers and fight over those voters who are dumb enough to believe it.

by Doug Rogers (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 152 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:12:11 PM

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Is an appallin' choice.

Can you say "pandering," anyone?

A heart beat away from the Presidency for a 72-year-old man. Wow. The audacity is stunning. I think Obama just got my vote.

by Sam Adams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:24:16 PM

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I listened to her speech today, and I heard Rush Limbaugh comment about how honest it was..  (as if he would know)  She was talking about how John McCain stood up for the rights of Americans, or something like that, and it was so completely absurd as to be ludicrous...

Now regarding everything else...  She is VERY attractive...  (Sorry, that can not be ignored...)  She will come off as very sympathetic when debating the crotchety old coger, Joe Biden...  I don't think anyone will be able to dig much up on her regarding dirt, but if you want to hit her, hit her with the inexperience card...

Mention it when she makes a mistake...  (and believe me, she will make mistakes...)  She can speak, but it sounded like she was reading off of a tele-prompter... Get her to where she has to think on her feet, and I think she will fumble the ball, so to speak... 

Ciao, CZ

by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:13:36 PM

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FFL Member Nominated for Vice President of the United States

[August 29, 2008] Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska, has been selected by Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain as his running mate.

According to The Anchorage Daily News published August 6, 2006, "Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child." The article went onto say that "she's a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life." "I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,' she said."

Feminists for Life's policy is that all memberships are confidential. However, since Governor Palin has been public about her membership, we can confirm that Palin became a member in 2006.

Earlier this week Feminists for Life reacted to the inclusion of woman-centered solutions in the Democratic Party platform, and the inclusion of FFL's trademarked message, "Women deserve better® than abortion,©" in the Republican Party platform.

FFL President Serrin Foster said "It is unprecedented to see the platforms of both major U.S. political parties incorporate key pieces of FFL's unique message."

"Of course there is a certain excitement about the recent movement toward FFL's woman-centered solutions and message by the parties, and now the selection of a pro-life feminist as the Vice Presidential nominee. But as a nonpartisan organization, we cannot endorse any candidates," Foster said.

by Kathlyn Stone (46 articles, 227 quicklinks, 27 diaries, 690 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:01:15 PM

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I"ve been on the phone all evening talking to folks in Alaska and this Feminists for life group is a "far right right to life group" and Palin also believes in teaching creationism in schools.

by Rob Kall (953 articles, 4178 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:01:10 PM

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Great story describes another historical moment -- Great story of another historical moment. The Energy, NRA, Pro-life, against the status-quo executive Veep pick. She Canceled the funds for the Bridge to no where. Military Family, Son signed up on Sept 11, 2008.

This race just got a lot more exciting! The 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling have a way to burst through.

by Albert Milliron (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 3 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:14:10 PM

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The 18 million crackheads are about to burst?

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:57:24 AM

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Wassila, AK has less than 10,000 people. She wanted a $15 million sports complex in her town, so she decided to build it, even though the land belonged to someone else, and then TAKE the land under eminent domain. The courts said no. Meanwhile, she lands the governor's seat. Walks away. Wassila lays off library staff. Not enough to cover $1.7 million. Tough luck, kiddos. She's in the big leagues now! The courts aren't going to cross Big Oil's girl.

Note: There was a citizen effort to RECALL Palin early in her term as mayor, but the citizens backed down. Too bad! Looks like another pit bull in the china cabinet. Preaches family values - Cheney style?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

At the end of her mayorship, Palin was behind the construction of the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex, a $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena, as her legacy. However, developer Gary Lundgren acquired the land before Palin could. Without the deed, Palin decided to build the arena there anyway, and attempted to acquire the land through eminent domain, but a federal appeals court ruled in favor of Lundgren. The case is in the process of being resolved in the courts.[13] It will cost Wasilla at least an additional $1.67 million to acquire the land[14] and Wasilla is still attempting to cover the budget shortfall by cutting library services, postponing capital improvement projects, and raising fees.[15]

Wassila  is still attempting to cover the budget shortfall by cutting library services, postponing capital improvement projects, and raising fees.[15]

by Kathlyn Stone (46 articles, 227 quicklinks, 27 diaries, 690 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:19:51 PM

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Do they also believe that birth control methods like the regular contraceptive 'birth control' pill and the Plan B contraceptive pill = abortion?????  I bet Sara Palin does!

by Merrry Gregor (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:59:45 PM

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 About Sarah Palin. what is her positions on the economy? were does she stand on the Iraq war? waht is she going to do about golbal warming? what is she going to do about rebuilding the inner cities of america. waht is she and dum ass McShame going to do about stopping jobs from being outsourced to other counteries? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED. but you all know what. the republican party dont have these answers.it will be the same old bull like the republican party is. were does it all end???????????? i ask a question. will america ever recover from these ( BAS.  THAT ARE IN POWER, IN THE WHITE HOUSE.) or is america doomed for ever.

by vincent passiatore (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 185 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:55:35 PM

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He signed up last year on 9/11. It seems contrived if you ask me.  (Did the boys ask her to sacrifice her son in return for the VP slot?) But she brought it up during her acceptance speech, so there you go.

by Kathlyn Stone (46 articles, 227 quicklinks, 27 diaries, 690 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:12:16 PM

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Seriously, until today, she planned to assemble a group of advisers to deal with climate change and reduce greenhouses in AK.

But today she said she doesn't believe climate change/global warming is "man-made." (In keeping with the Republican Party line: We didn't break it so why should we fix it?)

by Kathlyn Stone (46 articles, 227 quicklinks, 27 diaries, 690 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:21:26 PM

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http://dwb.adn.com/news/environment/story/8786824p-8688242c.html

She has always been skeptical that man is responsible for the warming.  But given the political realities, she would be foolish not to address the issue and put together a group of advisers she can rely on to support her position.  After all, being a Governor is not like being a Dictator like the Presidency has become.  Also, given the possibility of an Obama election victory which will bring carbon caps, she is just being proactive, since the states will have no choice if the Federal Government rams it down their throats.

Besides, this is an intellectually honest approach.  Her personal views are that it is not man made.  But she put together a group of people to study it in case she is wrong.  Shows she is willing to consider both sides.

by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:05:52 AM

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Evidently, she didn't announce her pregnancy until seven months along, and even then many didn't believe it because she was hardly showing.  On April 17 she was at an energy conference in Grapevine, Texas when she experienced a leak in her aminiotic fluid.  Not to worry, she still gave her 30 minute speech and then hopped on a plane from DFW to Anchorage, a 6 hr. 55 minute flight at 36 weeks pregnant (the baby wasn't due til May 18)  The only flight out of DFW that day directly to Anchorage was American Airlines 1291 which departed at 3:45 pm.  Mind you, this was a high risk downs syndrome pregnancy in a 44 year old woman which in itself is high risk.

Sarah, 44, had her water unexpectedly break (just a slow leak of amniotic fluid, she shared) while attending an energy conference in Texas, but checked in with her doctor,(CHECKED IN WITH HER DOCTOR AT AGE 44  PREGNANT WITH A DOWNS SYNDROM BABY without being SEEN by a doctor and then hopping on a plane for a SENEN HOUR FLIGHT)was able to stay, deliver a 30 minute speech, and then get on a plane to return to her home state in time for the delivery (which ended up needing to be induced) early this morning. (so it needed to be induced which says that her amniotic fluid was leaking more than"slightly")

I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor.  After four kids I knew what labor felt like, and I wasn't in labor. (every labor is DIFFERENT)

Sarah said that while she did not tell the pilot or flight attendants that she was 36 weeks along, she did not hide her condition either.

American and United require that pregnant passengers traveling within 30 days of expected delivery provide such a note.

I don't know about anyone else reading here, but I had my last child at age 42.  There is no way in HELL I would board a plane for a seven hour flight with leaking amniotic fluid, pregnant with a down syndrome child which is at higher risk if born prematurely without SEEING a doctor.  By her own admission she didn't report her 36 week pregnancy to American Airlines.  This is a woman who is pro-life?

I call this highly irresponsible behavior.  She was also back at work three days later.  May I ask the timely question of who is caring for this child?  That's THREE DAYS after giving birth.  Since she doesn't know what a vp does, I am asking if she knows what a mother does.

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:35:00 PM

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This is (suppossedly) a women who believes in home-schooling, Just who is it that is 'home schooling her kids while she works???? It is one thing to preach this crap and another thing to actually have to be the person who provides the services of the home-schooler, home-maker, baby factory. Sara Palin, evidently, has the luxury of Preaching this philosophy to people but not really practicing it herself. Except, in Alaska, where she is Governor, with a relatively small population, just like the extremely small town where she was Mayor, maybe it IS possible to be all things to all people. For most women, however, it is Physically impossible to work a full time job, home school 5 children, help in her husbands (mostly non existant fishing business since he really works for BP the oil company) and serve on the executive commitee of 'Right to Life'committees. Hmmm, I smell a big, fake, Republican Hypocrite. The smell is VERY familiar.

 By the way,  No where have I heard that she has any education beyond High School.   Does She????   Where????   As far as has thus far been told she became a PTA & Hockey Mom and Sports Writer???? Then City Council, etc.  Is there some education involved here????  I mean, the women believes in Creation Theory!!!!!  What kind of education could she have had????

by Merrry Gregor (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:15:53 AM

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She does have a degree in journalism and wanted to be a sportscaster, so she can talk.  Being a mom myself, I can't imagine how she can properly care for and home school 5 little kids, including a disabled infant and campaign for VP of the United States, let alone actually carry out the duties of office.  I'm not a perfect right wing stay at home family values mommy but leave my new baby to hit the road...NEVER!

by macdon1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 113 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:01:32 PM

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I thought this was an interesting chess move in going for Hillary's 18 million voters after Obama passed on Sebelius. I was at first impressed when I heard Palin's speech and delivery (despite raucous applause being intentionally way high in the audio mix) but was floored when I got home and found all the past quotes and clips online.

The way she bulges her eyes when she makes statements reminds me of Laura Dern as Katherine Harris, but my wife thought she was more like the character in the Geena Davis TV show where the first ever female VP is asked to step down by the party as soon as the Prez is incapacitated.

But I think history has been made here. The GOP picking a woman for VP is unprecedented and surely an acknowledgment of the success of Hillary in the primaries. It's a great day for equality when the Republicans nominate a woman, even if they are just using her as a magnet for votes. I think they only did so because they were forced - the gender issue was nowhere to be found in the platform beforehand.

I also chuckled when I heard Palin had stood up to Big Oil and the Good Ol Boys Network. McCain has caved in all of his most important positions to the very same networks, reversing himself on exploration, the future of energy, immigration, torture and more.

 The kicker came today listening to Hannity who had Karl Rove on to comment on Sarah Palin. He thought she was great because she was a "reformer" and would do well on McCain's ticket. The only problem is, as he is commonly known, "The Architect" is directly responsible for almost everything wrong with the current administration, so he was cheering for the antidote to himself! Hannity was oblivious of this of course, but what do you all think?

by Gustav Wynn (77 articles, 65 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 421 comments [34 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:22:47 AM

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So she has 15 months of leadership experience, compared to Obamas zero leadership experience.

She is also not an insider or part of the Congress that has destroyed this country over the last 35 years, which coincidentally is when Biden entered the scene, and the Trilateral Commission.  This congress might be the worst in history, and yet the only viable candidates for President or VP were from the same Senate that sold us all out.

She has less experience in DC politics. Horrors.  Presumably she is a novice at lies, deception, corruption and fleecing her constituents while scaring them over non existent threats, or manufactured threats to justify their actions in selling out this country to the globalists and those wanting to turn the country into a police state.

And she is a global warming (man made) skeptic to boost.  Heck, too bad she is not running for President.  

by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:37:35 AM

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As a fan of free markets, I'm glad to see that the right has no corner on the "politics of personal destruction". These hysterical, rambling reactions to Palin, if nothing more, serve to illustrate just what an effective choice (at least from an electoral standpoint) she really is. Rob Kall's got his "sources" in Alaska furiously digging up dirt, while at the same time no doubt decrying any and all attempts at free speech and "swiftboating" in the reverse. Newsflash: She's pro-life!, and she believes that God created things! It may even be OK for students to be exposed to that remote possibility! Horrors! Diversity of opinion! Does Obama really want to disagree with that? From what he's said on God and religion, it seems like he's pretty much really and truly down with the belief thing. Is it really genuine? Does he really presume to be able to better render an opinion on creation, if the rather obvious answer to the question of when life begins is "above his pay grade"?

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 858 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:26:32 AM

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America's takeover by crazy Far Right idiots is now complete, this choice of Palin makes it clear, if anyone still doubts it.

Having a BA in journalism from the University of Ohio and being the mayor of Wasilla qualifies you to deal with the war in Iraq, the nuclear threat in Iran, the hydra of terrorism, the Middle east powderkegg, the return of the Cold war with Russia, the end of cheap energy, an economic recession not seen since the 30s, etc? HELLO!!???

It's when we are surrounded by unprecedented perils abroad and at home that we are choosing leaders who are the most stupid, unqualified, unskilled, uneducated, untravelled, inexperimented, irrational, unhinged and reckless in the whole world. You'd have to go to Borat's Kazahstan to find leaders of Ms Palin's appalingly low caliber.

We had eight years with a smart, educated leader--Clinton--and eight years with a  moron; the difference for the country is so obvious it's blinding, but no, not only we want more morons, but we want even more moronic morons--an ignorant, bumbling country bumpkin as Palin to confront Ahmadinejad, a former terrorist, and Putin, an old KGB hand!!!

The whole world is looking at us in disbelief; people here in Europe are totally puzzled and keep asking me what's the heck is wrong with the US. Personnally, I am almost ready to give up; it's like the US is controlled by a subliminal desire to commit suicide, making crazier and crazier choices, and nothing can stop its race toward the abyss. We are reduced to watching helplessly, waiting for the whole mess to run its course  and go up in flames.

If reckless, senile  McCain and this VP are elected, mark my words, it's going to get so insane we are going to regret Bush.

by francine (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 385 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:43:55 AM

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McBush has been attacking Oboma for lack experience. His pick for VP has even less. (the repub pundits are touting her "experience" . 2 years as governor of one of the states with the least population. They do not mention her experience as the head of the Alaskan oil commision)

Given McBush's age and family history, I would say she has about a 60% chance of being president in the next 4 years if the repubs steal another one.

by kanawah (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 100 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:24:07 AM

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McCain must have felt that his Administration would be lacking something if he didn't have another oil person by his side. Palin's desire to drill for oil and gas in Alaska would probably mean that if elected, we'd change our emphisis from alternative fuels to complete reliance on oil and gas for our transportation energy needs. That would give the maximum income to Alaska residents and the hell with the environment and the rest of us.

This is a problem I see on top of all the others like inexperieince, no knowledge of foreign affairs, and perhaps, most important of all, changes to the Supreme Court that we will have to live with for the next 3 decades.

Leon

by Leon (7 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 30 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:53:25 AM

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No mention of Palin's Dominionist connexions! Check out DailyKos' Dogemporer's blog on his/her experiences under the Alaskan iron heel of AOG which Palin is part of. Much data on both her and the Dominionists who want to turn the USA into a theocratic corporate dictatorship. Bush and Cheney understand it. Most telling her choice as VP don't you think? Just use a search engine on "dominionism" and "Christian reconstructionists" to get an idea of how entrenched these groups are and how they are closer than ever to fulfilling their wish since at least 1934.

by nightgaunt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 449 comments [27 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:43:58 PM

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Sara Palin is another right wingnut in a pretty package who can give a speech but don't underestimate the ability of the repuglican sleeze factory to use her.  They have a strategy mapped out for this seemingly stupid choice. She is a little to the left of Attila the Hun which makes her appeal to the neocons. Her husband is a snowmobile champion, rah rah rah and she likes to shoot and eat moose, which appeals to a certain segment of the population.  She offered blood bounty on alaskan wolves, which appeals to those who would like to wipe wolves off the face of the planet. Her right to life stance obviously does not extend to sentient creatures other than human fetuses, since she would take polar bears off the endangered species list and let them all die.  She styles herself as a supermom of five but how can she care properly care for her disabled infant and young children while on the campaign trail? Not to mention her attempts to shove a Trans-Canada natural gas pipeline down the throats of the Alaska legislature.  Why would a patriotic future vice president want to pump our much needed natural gas out of the North Slope and into Alberta Canada when we are trying to get off imported oil.

In other words, she is a real multifacted Bush republican who will give us more of the same.  If you like Bush you're gonna LOVE Sara Palin.

by macdon1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 113 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:41:25 PM

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In all of these comments, I see a lot of people wanting to express reasons for hating Palin, YET, demonstrating nothing of substance, these people hate her anyway... 

 Politics is NOT personal.  A word of advice to some of you people on this thread.  If you want to beat Palin, you need to stop hating her and focus on those things where she is vulnerable...  Of course, most of you will never see it, because you are too blind to look for it and would rather spout off with whatever the Daily Kos or some other "preaching to the choir" blog has to say...  

Reality is that they say the same thing, all of them, and they are usually dead wrong as they demonstrate how weak their arguments happen to be.

I made these observations twice on this thread before, and nothing changed..  I suspect nothing will change now.

Ciao, CZ

by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:22:32 PM

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Neglecting Palin’s faith, mostly

The article references several articles that include information about Palin and religion

http://www.getreligion.org/?p=3867

by Julie Johnson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 30 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:36:11 PM

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Please stop calling anyone "idiots", "dumb ass" etc in posts as it is very rude.

by E Lew (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:41:14 PM

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In a recent article (perhaps a comment here) she was said to not know she was pregant. In World News Tonight it was said that she gave birth to a Down's syndrome child and she knew that she was going to have that child.

Hmmmm. She was on a podium in Texas giving a talk while her water broke at the end of a pregnancy she said she knew nothing about yet knew the child had Down's syndrome.

There are a couple of good questions there. Did she know? Didn't she know? If she knew, then she knew the child had Down's syndrom. What was a mother about to give birth doing in Texas on a podium giving a speech. A mother who is supposed to be the image of Supreme Motherhood.

Heroine? Or mother image run riot?

Draw your own conclusions.

- Karen

by karen timmons (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 8 comments) on Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:15:37 PM

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Hi, yes she knew she was pregnant, from articles she found out at four months she was carrying a down's syndrome child and chose to carry it to term, absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book because I see that also as a matter of choice.

Her child was due May 18, yet on April 17th she was in Texas attending an energy conference.  By her own admission she stated that she neither told the airline she was pregnant, nor tried to hide it.  American Airlines has a policy that a pregnant woman must have a note releasing them to fly if you are 39 days before your due date.

At the conference she experienced what she says was a leak in her amniotic fluid, yet she chose to give her 30 minute presentation, then hop on a plane back to Anchorage.  Please note, that flight is seven hours long.  She not only was a high risk pregnancy because of her age, but also because of her child who had already been determined to be down's syndrome.  As in any pregnancy, carrying a child to term is important, but particularly so in a DS case.  ANY TIME a woman experiences a leak in their amniotic fluid they must SEE a doctor to have the leak checked.  They do a test then on the fluid to check for protiens.  By her own statement she claims she called her doctor, she's had four pregnancies and "knew" she wasn't in labor.  HELLO, getting on a plane for a seven hour flight without seeking hands on medical attention first?   NO WAY.  Just look up what needs to be done in the case of an eight month high risk pregnancy with an amniotic leak and you will see that hopping on a plane for a seven hour flight without seeking medical attention is NOT the suggested course of action.  I called Alaskan Airlines to check their flights that day.  They partner with American and there was only ONE flight which arrived at 7:45 Anchorage time.   Her delivery was INDUCED which meant there was a REASON-more than likely the fetus was in distress (note this was four weeks early).  She delivered the child Friday morning and according to news accounts was back at work three days later.  What a GAL!

Read:

Early Thursday -- she thinks it was around 4 a.m. Texas time -- she consulted with her doctor, family physician Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who is based in the Valley and has delivered lots of babies, including Piper, Palin's 7-year-old.

Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid and also felt some contractions that seemed different from the false labor she had been having for months.

"I said I am going to stay for the day. I have a speech I was determined to give," Palin said. She gave the luncheon keynote address for the energy conference.

Palin kept in close contact with Baldwin-Johnson. The contractions slowed to one or two an hour, "which is not active labor," the doctor said.

"Things were already settling down when she talked to me," Baldwin-Johnson said. Palin did not ask for a medical OK to fly, the doctor said. (Anchorage Daily News, April 22,2008, "Palin's Child Diagnosed with Down Syndrome"

There's a good post on Daily Kos about this, "Cavalier pro-lifer Palin risks life of self and of her unbornd child"

NOTE AGAIN:  Her own doctor stated she did NOT seek medical advice.  Curious me then asks what was the nature of the conversation between Palin and her doctor in Alaska as she was leaking amniotic fluid which could result in infection?  Was she just calling her doctor to let him know what she was planning on doing?   NO doctor on the face of the earth would tell her to do ANYTHING but to go directly to the er.  Is Palin so "special" she doesn't need to do the NORMAL things a pregnant mother would do in such a case?

Watch for the religious whack jobs to say that "God protected her"

God protects those who protect themselves and the lives of their UNBORN CHILDREN in RESPONSIBLE manner.  Thank God nothing happened, but the fact remains she acted in a manner that ENDANGERED her unborn fetus.

by Robin McLaren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:33:15 AM

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I just can't think of anything insignificant enough to bolster her appeal ! 

They will need all kinds of unimportant snippetes to sell her because there is nothing of importance to use.

by Paul Kruger (39 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 304 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:39:14 AM

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-She is an evangelical who is pro-life.  Not Catholic. 

-She ran and won against Dem. Begich.  He seemed like a viable candidate and I do not know the details except that Palin won.  

-She has consistitently shown up on environmental blogs as a neo-con driller/oiler and completely insensitive to the extinctions happening right there in the Cook Inlet (beluga whales) and further north the dying of Polar bears due to glacial melting.  I have personally written to her to stop the air strikes against wolves by fanatical wolf haters in bush planes.  No answer received.

-She allegedly works out of her home in Wasilla, a few miles from Anchorage, AK.  Juneau is the state capital and is located in the Inland Passage very near to British Columbia border, and is way southeast of Anchorage, i.e., you go there by ferry or plane.  I find that disrespectful of the Governor's duties to constituents.

If any person can research the list above (which I am pretty sure are true) I will be happy.

by zephyr (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 74 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:39:23 PM

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McCain made a perfect choice for VP. The evidence for that has only come out after the announcement, though.  Democrats are making the same mistakes over again by stating the obvious about her lack of experience and brow beating McCain because it appears he's pandering to women by nominating Palin. 

This isn't the reality of the people who matter in the case.  The reality is- the fact that she's evangelical and pro-life has actually revived the Republican voting base. Conservative women are saying that they are exited to see someone like themselves on the ticket.  These types of voters don't care about anything else; they proved it by voting for Bush twice.  They want someone in the Whitehouse that is more like them and it doesn't matter that he or she isn't qualified for the position or that he or she is too young or too old.

Stop nitpicking Palin to peices.  It makes Dems look bad.  Fact is she represents the votes McCain was losing: fundamentalist, evangelical, pro-life, Creationists.  He revitalized his constituancy with one sly swoop.  And to those people it won't matter if Palin looks bad during the debates.  Why? Because she's so much like them.  They will empathize with her and take Biden to task for treating her poorly. 

Palin is a very dangerous choice for the Dems. Why?  Not because of any of the reasons aforementioned in the thread, but because she was the perfect pick for McCain and none of the Dems noticed.

Rose

by rosewelsh (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments) on Monday, Sep 1, 2008 at 5:26:53 PM

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PALIN-DOMINIONIST STALKING HORSE

Here is something you need right away and then you might want to look at this-In 2004 I came across this obscure bill and it piqued my interest but now I see Palin set up to hit this out of the park. The Dominionists are looking for a full-scale theocratic take-over-I had some, let's say, experience with D. James Kennedy-the Coral Ridge Church was down the street from my house in Florida-and I can tell you these people are so sinister and so strange-they haven't been invented yet. When someone came to me the other say and told me she was a dominionist...egad-big light went on-

 You need to know this-forget the rest of it-and then all the pieces of the puzzle will fall into place-

http://rafaelapollo.livejournal.com/?s2id=24893131

I just put this up. You need to disseminate this material asap. No wonder McCain calls her his soul mate-the two of them are about to pull Jesus in for his Second Coming and they don't care what they do to do it. It's not about how much experience she has or hasn't-it's that she can usher this in.

by Raffie Azariel (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 61 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:05:39 PM

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