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July 28, 2008 at 08:52:58

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Liberalism vice or grace?

by george goubran     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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The potential to change a state lies within the hands of its LIBERALS, Liberalism ensures freedom of speech and also freedom of thought outside the power of any social, political cliché’ or Taboo.

According to the Wikipedia’s definition Social Liberalism is concerned with human rights, and the individual’s right to a health insurance, minimum wage, equality, whereas the term Classic Liberalism ( not exactly capitalism) views liberalism as primarily the freedom from coercion and encourages the laissez-fair economic policy.

Nowadays Democracy a governing policy that is favored by the liberals but only after its official  baptism to liberal democracy, A democracy of not only the majority of the people but of all the people including the minority. Whether de facto or de jure Liberal democracies preserves minority rights, and the governing policies are flipped towards less government control and more individual rights.

However Democracy used to be a choice reached through maturity, and even might never be reached, and was an adolescent stage of the peoples political awareness, for democracy in itself as regarded by the liberals is a mean to an end and not the end requiring a certain degree of maturity and the segregation of the different powers within a state whether legislative, judicial, and executive powers.

AND fear of the mobs tyranny was always the great motivation for liberals to put forth laws that would ensure the alignment of the mobs tyranny from changing the very system that would help them into a form of a mass dictatorship where the mobs fatal lusts and desires could shatter down the individuals’ rights and privacy.

Nowadays democracy is coercive it is fed to the nations by the sword and forcefully implemented, the most striking thing about it is that it is foreign, exported by the strong dominating nations, creating a puppet nation that seems democratic, liberal, but is functioning as anarchistic, where the people are only gathered around a zillion of principals that is their most personal interest with no regards to the state’s welfare.

And that is actually a natural consequence for a forced Democracy where the subjects haven’t reached their maturity and enlightenment to work as a pluralistic multi partisan state that is only biased towards Reason and nothing else.

It seems to me that a new one world order is being forced on the planet, where shiny appealing DEMOCRACY is fed or force fed to immature nations leading only to the inevitable ANARCHISTIC outcome eventually.  

Doubtful or not of the Protocols of Zion consider those interesting lines please in relevance with the issue at hand.

Protocol 1.

7-In our day the power which has replaced that of the rulers who were liberal is the
power of Gold. Time was when Faith ruled. The idea of freedom is impossible of
realization because no one knows how to use it with moderation. It is enough to hand
over a people to self-government for a certain length of time for that people to be
turned into a disorganized mob. From that moment on we get internecine strife which
soon develops into battles between classes, in the midst of which States burn down
and their importance is reduced to that of a heap of ashes.

 

Being from a third world country I hope instead of forcing democracy in the third world,the same effort is put to help change the education system that promotes dogmatism instead of reason advocation.Understand the fact that no change will happen if education is not addressed.

 

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Being from a third world country I hope instead of forcing democracy in the third world,the same effort is put to help change the education system that promotes dogmatism instead of reason advocation.Understand the fact that no change will happen if education is not addressed.
george goubranBeing from a third world country I hope instead of forcing democracy in the third world,the same effort is put to help change the education system that promotes dogmatism instead of reason advocation.Understand the fact that no change will happen if education is not addressed.

consider the protocols as an ideology rather than a plan

well I heard that too,I'm not gonna argue that now cause i believe that its importance is considering its content as a guiding compass towards political failure and how to assess it.

nevermind its true or not,just consider the content which fits in with most of what happening nowadays.

Democracy indeed is prevailing and giving the people the power isnt exactly the right choice for "unenlightened"societies,cause it only leads to anarchy.

No need to be sorry,as i said before,wether mumbo jumbo protocols or not,still its content is what counts and should be read by everyone. 

by george goubran (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 9 comments) on Monday, July 28, 2008 at 12:27:50 PM
 


I'm a 29 year old male. 
TyI'm a 29 year old male. 

Democracy

"It seems to me that a new one world order is being forced on the planet, where shiny appealing DEMOCRACY is fed or force fed to immature nations leading only to the inevitable ANARCHISTIC outcome eventually."

You're right that a one world order is being forced on the planet. However, it is free market corporate capitalism and fascism that is being forced on other countries NOT DEMOCRACY. Too many people confuse a Republic(Representative Government) as Democracy. It isn't. Democracy means self-government by the masses. Any country that is under foreign occupation cannot possibly have a legitimate government let alone Democracy. Democracy can only exist when the masses choose to govern their own country. It isn't something that can be imposed by force. A Republic on the other hand is an oligarchy where the few rule the many.

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 888 comments) on Monday, July 28, 2008 at 6:44:25 PM
 


I live on an island off the coast of Maine. Political junkie of liberal persuasion.
I have long been a registered Independent and now am a member of the Maine Green Independent Party.

Widower, grandfather of two, retired.

Jack HarringtonI live on an island off the coast of Maine. Political junkie of liberal persuasion.
I have long been a registered Independent and now am a member of the Maine Green Independent Party.

Widower, grandfather of two, retired.

Confusion

is rampant in this article. Goldwater conservatism is served up as liberalism in the presentation of smaller government and individual freedom-not liberal. And  democracy forced on third world countries is presented as liberal policy, just to point out two instances.

The protocols shown are not even worth commenting on.

For what it is worth, liberals generally believe in self-determination for a nation, not the forcing of 'democracy', of which there are several flavors, down people's throats. Conservatism believes in the use of power to control, not liberalism.

What is passing for globalism here is neoliberal philosophy, which is not liberal at all, but rather the philosophical twin of neoconservatism, both sharing shock and awe, both using disasters natural and manmade to create empire, and both determined to dominate the world. Not a liberal prospect or process at all.

Unfortunate to see this here. 

 

 

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 517 comments) on Monday, July 28, 2008 at 8:23:41 PM
 


Being from a third world country I hope instead of forcing democracy in the third world,the same effort is put to help change the education system that promotes dogmatism instead of reason advocation.Understand the fact that no change will happen if education is not addressed.
george goubranBeing from a third world country I hope instead of forcing democracy in the third world,the same effort is put to help change the education system that promotes dogmatism instead of reason advocation.Understand the fact that no change will happen if education is not addressed.

re:confusion

I believe i made many mistakes indeed,i like to know when you say neoliberalism,conservatism,neoconservatism,you speak about ideologies rather than governing policies right?...

my understanding is that democracy can incorporate many ideologies like liberalism or conservatism?!

democracy can be conservative,or liberal ..

I know neoconservatism isnt  to be called a liberal ideology on the other hand i understand that what is "seemingly"democratic isn't.

However the wrong terminology i used i like to understand more from you,but dont you agree that by anymeans an"unenlighted"(non reason based)society isnt ready for democracy especially if its Dogma based from the start?

 

 

by george goubran (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 9 comments) on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 11:01:45 AM
 

 

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