Thank you for this beatiful article, my sister. 

Unfortunately, the source of information, the major media outlets in the United States is controlled by those who make big profits from wars and conflict. I am disgusted by the US media, when I see how they show fascist Israel's btural killing forces as poor victims and Palestinians in concentration camps as terrorists and monsters.

What goes around comes around. I believe in the Day of Judgment and those who worship power and betray justice will face the Omniscient and the most Just, our Creator.

Peace and Justice 

by Edip Yuksel (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 90 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:45:29 PM

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But after over 60 years of having endured attack after attack after attack after attack, Palestinians are still being scolded for trying to attempt to defend themselves and being told not to fight back.

 Tell Hamas to stop ATTACKING Israel! Israel is VERY capable of obliterating the folks that bomb them...  SO, if Hamas stops bombing Israel, Israel will stop bombing Hamas....  Hamas and Hezbollah love to use civilian locations in which to launch their missiles..  This is proven fact, it is not up to debate..  The reason is simple..  When Israel counterattacks, it will hit civilian targets... One thing Israel will NOT do???  Continue to take the abuse with no retaliation....  

I will not argue the right or wrong of this, because it is a waste of time.  So I will simply state the obvious...  Israelis will counter attack.  this is what is going to happen when they are bombed by Hamas..

 
Now if people want to discuss moving the Israelis to another part of the world, because they were put there displacing other people living on that land....   Well, that is a discussion for a different thread....

Ciao, CZ

by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 831 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:57:31 AM

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Hamas has to quit trying to destroy Israel.  When they continue to lob rockets into Israel they are declaring war and Israel will respond.  I am sad for all the innocent people that are caught in the crossfire.  War is hell.  Hamas needs to change their position or the slaughter will continue.  I guess their religious belief that their God is on their side will ease their conscience.

by Philip Pease (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 209 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:34:52 PM

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Israel declared war on the Palistinian people in 1945--to claim that Hamas has declared war on Israel is beyond stupid.

Israel as an organized state is responsible in all and every instance.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:52:50 PM

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"I will not argue the right or wrong of this, because it is a waste of time."

No actually it is really simple, you will not argue the right or wrong of this because you don't have a leg to stand on.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:03:58 PM

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could not of said it better myself

by Don Bybee (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 116 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:15:00 PM

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Tell Hamas to stop ATTACKING Israel! Israel is VERY capable of obliterating the folks that bomb them...  SO, if Hamas stops bombing Israel, Israel will stop bombing Hamas.... 

Apparently you haven't noticed, but Israel wants the Palestinians "obliterated" regardless of what they do or don't do. Israel intends to finish the job it started 60 years ago. If the Palestinians "behave" (i.e., peacefully accept their fate), they die a slow, painful death of a thousand cuts; and if they don't "behave", they merely die a quicker death from bombs and bullets. Those are their choices.

BTW, as a technical matter, since Israel is clearly the aggressor, Israel is morally defenseless against anything the Palestinians do in exercising their legitimate right of self-defense. While launching rockets against Israel may not accomplish anything positive, it cannot be called an "attack", anymore than a rape victim's attempt to defend herself against the rapist can be called an "attack".

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:15:28 PM

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it was preceded by a Hamas attack... sorry, but the facts are NOT on your side... 

It IS, however Naive to believe that Hamas would listen to anyone who asked them to stop doing what they do....  very unfortunate situation over there...  they have been fighting forTHOUSANDS of years, and have over a thousand years worth of hatred for each other...

TEXT books for children in that region all teach hatred for Jews at a time when the world expects people to be selling peace..

Ciao, CZ

by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 831 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:21:50 PM

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Good points Jane.

The one issue that I fail to understand is the position of the majority of American Jews. I greatly admire what they did over the years to allow such small minority to have a very clear voice in American politics.

Their ability to organize and lobby for their interests, but most of all their deep understanding that as a minority their rights are tied to other minorities fates. Jewish Americans showed this understanding in their early support of the civil rights movement.

The reson I keep bringing this point is two folds:

1)      Israel and the Palestinian authority are incapable of reaching an agreement as long as the balance of power is so tilted in one side.

2)      I believe that Jewish Americans have enough clout in this country to be able to change the American government position. This change can bring peace in the Middle East, provide security for Israel, and create a new alliance with other American minorities (Arabs and Muslims).

Will the Jewish community in America comes back to its roots, and support Israel by helping it makes the tough choices is a question I hope get an answer!

by sameh abdelaziz (47 articles, 10 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 39 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:55:08 PM

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My friend Anthony Saidy, a veteran Middle East peace activist in L.A. wrote this to me this morning:

On CNN ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney, who was on the Dignity boat laden with medical supplies headed for Gaza, stated that several Israeli boats surrounded it, and rammed it three times.  The Dignity was shown with major damage back in Cyprus. Israel's Foreign Ministry denied that the boat had been rammed.
    Who lied? Hint: for several hours Israel attacked and destroyed the intel ship USS Liberty and killed 33 men in 1967 on a sunny day with a large American flag flying, and to this day despite contrary radio intercepts claims it mistook the ship for an Egyptian one. Whole books are issued by Z1on1st "historians" to back up their innocence.
    So I expect Tzipi Livni to say, "That's not ramming. It's just our equivalent of an Eskimo kiss."
    Yes, and the Gazans are the aggressors, just like the rebellious Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto and Treblinka.
     Welcome to Alice in Holy Land.


Please note, I was unable to post this with the word “Z1on1st” spelled correctly. I rec'd a window strongly urging me to change it, but also saying that the final choice was up to me.  Since I couldn’t change someone else’s quote, I  chose to post is as it was. But just then the system went crazy, and i lost my comment. Coincidence? I don't know. But i redid it, using the number ones.

by Meryl Ann Butler (70 articles, 82 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 722 comments [29 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:37:20 PM

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" But just then the system went crazy, and i lost my comment. Coincidence? I don't know. But i redid it, using the number ones."

No coincidence, the system is rigged. I have had this experience many times.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:56:55 PM

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Censorship on a progressive website !  Thanks for reminding everyone of the  Liberty.

Anyway, here is a video of the yacht after the Israeli ramming.  (from infowars & BBC)

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6879

 And the story to go with it:  (infowars & raw story)

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6880

by jersey girl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1201 comments [734 recommended, 12 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:17:28 PM

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just noting the circumstances - and i did have several other weirdnesses happen today when trying to post a comment, so maybe it's just a cyber flummox after all.

by Meryl Ann Butler (70 articles, 82 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 722 comments [29 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:45:46 AM

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Actually I was being fascetious with my incredulity(is that a word?!)  I don't doubt for one minute that your post was being censored because of the content.  It seems you're considered anti semetic if you mention the word zionist.  Which should be no more offensive than using the term neo con.

If you are against the Israeli govt's actions you are deemed anti semetic.  If you voice your displeasure with Obama's decisions, you are deemed a racist.

I am neither.  I am just pissed off at the bullies and appeasers of the world and will continue to voice my opinion until the "censors" shut me down.

by jersey girl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1201 comments [734 recommended, 12 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:29:00 AM

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Where have you been?  Hamas sends innocent children into Israel with bombs and you're upset about who?  Leave Israel alone, we beg them to give up the Gaza strip to make peace and Hamas is sending bombs over the next day after Israel pulls out.  I think Israel is tired of the give us land and we will make peace  bull $#*+.. Make Syria give land or Iran... Israel is a little bitty country.. It Hamas continues to throw bombs... watch out... Israel will defend herself..  Iran is who we need to watch out for... Iran is on the side of Hamas.  Will Obama back down and not support Israel when Iran gets involved...

by Don Bybee (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 116 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:13:25 PM

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For two years Israel has illegally blockaded Gaza. BBC News (Heather Sharp, Gaza Under Blockade, Nov. 11, 2008) states that the area's "1.5 million people have been relying on less than a quarter of the volume of imported supplies they received in December 2005" and "virtually no exports have been permitted."

A totally paralyzed economy has tried to exist with reduced fuel supplies, electrical outages and a lack of spare parts. Intermittent hunger and severe physical and psychological damage have been common. Include impacts on sewage treatment, waste collection, water supplies and medical facilities.  Despite a truce between Hamas and Israel, the Israel military continued its attacks on West Bank Palestinians.

How did Hamas react to these provocations – quite sensible. In order to continue the truce, Hamas issued two responsible demands (1) Israel halt its devastating economic blockade of Gaza, and (2) Israel observe a truce in the West Bank as well as Gaza. When Israel refused to meet these humanitarian demands, Hamas refused to continue the truce, as it had promised and as Israel knew would happen. Rocket fire by militants, not clearly identified with Hamas, sent mortars and rockets into Israel. Despite the intensive barrage, not a single Israeli was killed or wounded.

by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:16:58 PM

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I do not approve of much of what Israel does, but on this, it is a simple thing....Hamas STARTED THE THING BY FLINGING MISSILES INTO ISRAEL, INTO CIVILIAN AREAS.

If they stop doing that, then I would say STOP to Israel.  If Hamas and the Palestinians want PEACE then they have to stop slinging missiles.  The fact is that Hamas has brought this on their own people and they fire these missiles from areas with private homes, schools, hospitals and dense civilian population.  THEY ARE GETTING WHAT THEY DESERVE AND THE PEOPLE THERE NEED TO TELL HAMAS TO STOP IT.

by Brenda Thornton (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:15:27 PM

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What hamas is "flinging" is the eqivalent of a sling shot and rock compared to the fire power Israel has been bombarding schools and hospitals with .  Paid for with our tax dollars.   

Compare the death tolls and then talk to me about poor Israel.

by jersey girl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1201 comments [734 recommended, 12 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:46:00 PM

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Hamas needs to stop bombing Israel

Hamas has every moral and legal right to use any and every weapon at their disposal against their deadly, implacable Zioni$t enemy.

I do not approve of much of what Israel does, but on this, it is a simple thing....Hamas STARTED THE THING BY FLINGING MISSILES INTO ISRAEL, INTO CIVILIAN AREAS.

LOL! Well since Hamas doesn't have a "superpower" backing them up, since they have no Airforce and no "smart bombs", no bottomless supply of U.S. taxpayer money and no global political power, etc., it looks like crude rockets will have to do for now.

If they stop doing that, then I would say STOP to Israel.

Then you would demonstrate your profound ignorance of the situation.  Israel's evil goal has not changed in 60 years. Palestinians have a choice of a slow death or a quicker one. They live with Israel imposed death and destruction and despair every day of their lives.

If Hamas and the Palestinians want PEACE then they have to stop slinging missiles. 

And if you had the slightest clue about the situation (something other than the outrageous propaganda you apparently absorb from your TeeVee set, that is), you maybe wouldn't make such a laughably naive statement.

The fact is that Hamas has brought this on their own people and they fire these missiles from areas with private homes, schools, hospitals and dense civilian population.  THEY ARE GETTING WHAT THEY DESERVE AND THE PEOPLE THERE NEED TO TELL HAMAS TO STOP IT.

LOL!

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:19:44 PM

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I listened to the Palestinian Ambassador last night, followed by Israel's Ambassador.  The Palestinian Ambassador used the term "proportionality", while Israel's Ambassador said they were defending themselves and doing everything in their power to minimize civilian casualties. 

Considering the size of Gaza and the number of people trapped there (you must use this word in the context) -- the technological armaments (supplied by US) of the Israelis reflect on the morality of the entire matter.

Like prison guards in their raised guard-towers they shoot up the prison yard whenever the prisoners get unruly.  Except the prisoners here are an entire people with their women and children.   

Endorsing the Guard's actions with their "defending themselves" rationalization should easily be seen to be inhumane and immoral with all things considered. 

Peace

by boomerang (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 557 comments [215 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:05:12 PM

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Anarchy In The UK (and the birth of SGS - STOP GAZA SLAUGHTER)

Yvonne Ridley Dec. 29, 2008

In truth I am sure many who arrived in Kensington on Saturday would have come anyway. But what happened was pure 'people power' and this is what happens when you have a leader who commands little or no respect. When the people lead, the leaders will follow and I think in the next few days Brown's advisers will tell him that what the British people want is a real man who will stand up to the bullies. And if he doesn't there will be more anarchy and it will get worse. This is neither a threat nor a promise - just a prediction. If Brown wants to survive politically, he will have20to join us when we demonstrate on Saturday, January 3 - opposite the British Parliament. He needs to show us he is really man enough to lead this country. And on the subject of Saturday's demonstration - police permission is apparently being sought. I have some advice for the Metropolitan Police: "Do not try and stop the democratic right of every person in Britain to demonstrate." - Yvonne Ridley

December 28, 2008 "Information Clearinghouse" -- THE murderous military campaign which has been unleashed by Israel has provoked people across the world to demonstrate, rally and protest in their hundreds of thousands...read this article about PROTESTS IN BRITAIN, you probably won’t find in the MSM in the USA:

 http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/peace_freedom/patriots_and_protesters/news.php?q=1230687837

by boomerang (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 557 comments [215 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:29:05 PM