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Twice now, I have seen reference to a secret meeting in the House of Repreesntatives in which people were informed that the US is on the verge of financiall collapse and martial law. It was reported here: click here . The meeting, one of only four such secret meetings in the last 25 years, Congresspeople were alledgedly told: * The imminent collapse of the U.S. Economy to occur sometime in late 2008 While there are wars going on, and a FISA aftermath, and impeachment to push, and so much more, obviously if the items listed above are accurate, investigating and reporting on about this seem rather logical things to happen now. And if there are camps being built to intern "insurgent" ("critical," "dissenting"?) Americans in preparation for martial law, does that not take a bit of priority over anything else anyone is doing politically?
* The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances sometime in mid 2009
* The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse
* The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. Citizens” likely to move against the government
* The detention of those rounded up at The REX 84 Camps constructed throughout the United States
* The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses
* The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest
* The necessary and unavoidable merger of The U.S. with Canada and Mexico establishing The North American Union
* The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution.
Many are concerned about staged terrorists attack or some other emergency to declare martial law. So, when there is news that Congress is being informed of "imminent collapse" and of internment camps in preparation for martial law, it seems ... prudent (sane, patriotic, logical, necessary, urgent?) to make as little bit of noise about this.
And yet headline reporting on this was listed low on the list of political things happening and the article itself contained no actions to be taken.
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Internment camp
Free flip flops & orange jump suits, showers two times weekly. Sounds like fun. I’m one the list by Michael Chavers (53 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 198 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:38:28 PM  (0+)
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Reply: Don't forget your bathing suit and suntan lotion.
Thanks for commenting. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:15:15 AM (0+)
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Reply: Dont forget to pay your life insurance
Half a million burial vaults amassed in Georgia ? http://www.infowars.com/?p=3462 Labor camps already exist on military installations. At Carswell AFB in Fort Worth inmates make 15 cents an hour. The telephone information operators make a whopping 1.45 an hour. You will not be going there for rest and relaxation. Welcome to the 4th reich. by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 463 comments [24 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:02:19 AM (0+)
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Reply: GW's lineage
Bush's grandfather was a Nazi supporter, guess it runs in the family by Ben Kall (1 articles, 16 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 35 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:33:58 PM (0+)
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take a look around ..
by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:01:17 PM (0+)
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Reply: Jesus H. ...
So, are you reaching Congress, writing letters? by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:18:22 AM (0+)
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Feeding The Inmates
If the economy collapses, American currency worthless, then how will the government pay to feed the millions in those camps? Are there gas chambers in those camps. The fact that Halliburton was paid to build them tells me mass electrocutions are down that road. by Robert Arend (24 articles, 30 quicklinks, 21 diaries, 240 comments [22 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:57:17 PM (0+)
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Reply: Brother
FYI. Amusing or is it real? We shall see. by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:17:57 PM (0+)
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Reply: pft
Not amusing. Sounds quite accurate. by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 1094 comments [65 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:02:48 AM (0+)
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Reply: So, where is the action on this?
Where is the reporting by progressive sites? Where are the petitions? Where are the questions to McCain and Obama? by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:19:49 AM (0+)
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Reply: What is being done to stop this?
Are you letting people know? by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:21:47 AM (0+)
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Reply: too many and too well established
"What is being done to stop this?" Not sure how this could be "stopped" - there are just too many and they are too well established - it's been going too long. Here is a list of FEMA Camps by state, with general or specific locations and other data (an estimated 500,000 can be held in the camp east of Anchorage, Alaska, eg). http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062 Included are many relevant executive orders (gov can take over all transportation, including personal cars etc, communication and media, gas and electricity supply, food resources and farms, health and welfare, airports and aircraft, housing and finance, including relocation of communities, wages, etc). by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:40:52 PM (0+)
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Reply: Welcome to Keefe Commissary Network
Oh yea, the Bush family owns this. That is why they lock so many people up. They will have to buy their own food. by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:49:45 PM (0+)
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Reply: They will have to feed them selves when locked up.
Welcome to Keefe Commissary Network Keefe Commissary Network is the nation's leading manufacturer, distributor and automated commissary provider. by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:53:10 PM (0+)
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I checked into this
I googled some of the text above and found out that this is interpretive spin based on reports in newspapers in New Zealand and Australia. The truth of hte matter concerned the FISA broadening. That's what the meeting was all about. Kucinich testified angrily on Democracy Now that secret Congressional meetings are "Dangerous" to American democracy and that transparency is key. He was really mad. He said he refused to attend the secret meeting, stating that he thought it was about the FISA broadening. I'll see what I can do to find the original articles and get back with a message about this. I put *nothing* past the thugs in office and don't hold the above scenarios as an impossibility. I am the one on this forum who vociferously harps about dictatorships routinely becoming murderous. That said, I think this may also have been the author's exaggerations and reading between-the-between-the-lines based on the original newspaper reports he was referencing. I compared his reports wiht the overseas reports and there were a lot of congitive distortions in his "take" on them, based on which the above "report" is written. Stay tuned: I will try to find the original article, if I can. Thanks, Kathryn by Kathryn Smith (110 articles, 2 quicklinks, 43 diaries, 542 comments [23 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:55:14 PM (0+)
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Reply: Thank you, Kathryn.
I appreciate any information that can be brought to bear. The Youtube video here is unnerving, to say the least. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:23:27 AM (0+)
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Reply: YouTUBE
Here's the problem. Watch the same video with your sound turned off and tell me what it says? Nothing at all. People can take videos of a regular prison and add their own narration and post it online but that does not constitute proof of anything. I don't trust Bush but much of this "conspiracy" assumes he could get the military to back him up. Being "commander-in-chief" is a nice title until they realize how nuts he is and refuse to listen to him after his term is officially over. by Paul Kruger (39 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 304 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM (0+)
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Reply: Write in Kucinich ?
Kucinich is one of the few patriots remaining in government. Too bad he is not our president. by Paul Kruger (39 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 304 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:16:35 PM (0+)
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Reply: economic crisis
All one has to do is google Executive Orders + George W. Bush. In these, sandwiched way down, are statements to the effect that Bush now has the authority to declare martial law for an economic crisis. We don't need another attack. We have the crisis already. Everything this administration has done has been toward this end. by Shirley Bianchi (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 97 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:53:10 PM (0+)
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Here is the original link in the Australian newspaper report
by Kathryn Smith (110 articles, 2 quicklinks, 43 diaries, 542 comments [23 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:15:33 AM (0+)
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Reply: very true
Once again, I appreciate what you've written, Kathryn, your last paragraph especially. It's very true. And I think we should never underestimate our ability to change the way things turn out, through our responses to events. Calmness and strength in the face of whatever dangers, whether "real" or imagined, will bring about their own effects, their own chains of events. by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:25:06 AM (0+)
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Reply: Thanks again.
You do a good job of both crediting people with reason to be concerned and very watchful, and yet sticking to as much facts as are available. There is enough stuff happening that it pays to considers every scenario and deal with it seriously. My question is: If it is out there as a possibility, who is looking into it? by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:27:54 AM (0+)
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Link
Has video on C-Span of Kucinich voicing concerns prior to the meeting. It's possible the purpose of the meeting might have been to warn what the consequences if not passing it. Think 9/11. Only the terrorists are not who you think they are. http://curtmaynardsblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/march-13th-secret-closed-door-meeting.html by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 2:19:09 AM (0+)
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Reply: Thank you for paying attention to this.
The more people who do and demand answers, the better. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:10:49 AM (0+)
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MARSHALL LAW
IF BUSH WANTS TO ORDER MARSHALL LAW, WHO IN THE HELL IS GOING TO STOP HIM, THE HOUSE, THE SENATE, THE JUSTICE DEP., HOMELAND SECURITY. DON;T THINK SO, MIGHT WANT TO GET YOU TRAVELING KIT TOGETHER, AND THE ONLY THING OTHER THAN THAT, IS ("YOUR PAPERS PLEASE"). DO YOU THINK THIS CAN HAPPEN HERE? by RICH SHA (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 2:51:34 AM (0+)
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Reply: Exposing plans would make a difference.
This fear is not just a liberal one. And investigating what appear to be internment camps and having them dismantled would be a good thing. In any case, reporting on this and investigating it and demanding answers and having people be alert to it, are all useful. Thanks for commenting. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:09:22 AM (0+)
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Barbed wire is turned INWARDS
Hikers have noticed here in Northern Maine, a Fema "Camp" has barbed wire facing inwards...Hmmm...and then we hear that every Wal-Mart is near a railroad track and has fenced in enclosures (the garden shop) and is to be used as a "Collection Point". Another good reason to stay out of the Mall Wart!! by Bia Winter (6 articles, 2 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 756 comments [119 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:06:22 AM (0+)
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Reply: Report this, and demand answers.
Write your local newspaper about this, putting Walmart on the spot. Push to have any of this investigated. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:12:39 AM (0+)
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I do
Do I think it can happen here? Sure. Do I think it would happen passively? Hell no. That in itself is enough to change the outcome to to some degree of the doom and gloom painted here. If it were that easy, they'd have just done it by now, but they haven't. They are just as unsure about what might happen as we are and make no mistake, those in charge are AFRAID of the people. I don't know if it'll happen or not, but I'm not counting out the rest of us just yet. by Pixie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 50 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:07:55 AM (0+)
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Reply: That's a good point, and the more we know, the less
we are passive. So, my intention was to say, "this has been reported and we need to find out about it." They are afraid of people but they are also often way ahead of people with their intentions, so staying on anything they do is important. Thanks for writing. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:15:50 AM (0+)
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I'm hoping they hang me from the main gate.
I earned it. May my big blue tongue hang out as a threat to all the suckers and lazy cowards who hoped for the best. by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:19:50 AM (0+)
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Reply: Write articles. More blue tongue.
Keep doing what you are doing to let people know things. Thanks for writing. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:17:12 AM (0+)
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Bush has already paved the way for Martial Law
I just recently became aware of the secret meeting held by the house. Yes, it is very alarming. Many in the house spoke out about the implications of withholding information from the public. The alarm bells are being sounded by some. I certainly don't want to be an alarmist or even a pessimist but more than anything, I don't want to be clueless. I came across this interesting article: Bush Paves the Way for Martial Law: 2007 National Defense Authorization Act overturns Posse Comitatus Act http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=117&a=1431 Then watched this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VOU934hhuEQ *** MARTIAL LAW EXERCISE IN INDIANA - June 4-19 2008 *** I don't know but isn't this something the MSM should be covering? Call me crazy. by Mrs P (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 12 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:59:11 AM (0+)
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Reply: Get on your Congress people and the media.
That is exactly the point of this article. There are too many things happening that "could" end up being preparation for martial law and people need to know about it. It is a deep fear of libertarians who take it as a given. Perhaps people could work with them to demand an investigation, NOW. by Linn Cohen-Cole (76 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 189 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:19:44 AM (0+)
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Reply: Martial Law not so easy
The president lacks legal authority to declare martial law without approval of Congress. Wimps that they are I can't see that happening. Also even at the time of the Civil War, the Supreme court denied Lincoln the use of martial law. It would take a cooridinated conspiricy to pull that off and all of the big business interests would be in a pickle because they all rely on a spending public to make their millions. Martial law could cut off big business's income and make them very unhappy with their paid-for politicians. This government runs on money and martial law would empty their wallets fast. How many more people would just stop paying thier bills or paying taxes etc? The people with the wealth would not like that and they really pull the strings in government. by Paul Kruger (39 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 304 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:28:46 PM (0+)
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Reply: Not so fast Paul
Excerpt from my article: Is It Too Late to Drive Out Bush? Bush has long since laid the groundwork for unprecedented power and control over the citizens of the US in the event of any perceived danger, real, imagined, or purposely manufactured. Bush has also signed an executive order giving himself the power to seize the assets of anyone impeding the Iraq war, anyone, that would include any US citizen, peace activist, clergy, anyone working to stop the Iraq war. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oldline_Republican_warns_somethings_in_works_0719.html http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html Even more frightening, with the passing of the John Warner Defense Act of 2006 Bush obliterated Posse Comitatus and gave himself the power to suspend the Constitution. As James Bovard writes in his article “The Martial Law Act of 2006”, “Section 1076 of the Defense Authorization Act of 2006 changed the name of the key provision in the statute book from "Insurrection Act" to "Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act." The Insurrection Act of 1807 stated that the president could deploy troops within the United States only "to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy." The new law expands the list of pretexts to include "natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition" -- and such a "condition" is not defined or limited.” http://www.counterpunch.org/bovard01092008.html by Cheryl Abraham (13 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 207 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36:54 PM (0+)
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Here's a SF Chronical article
Rule by fear or rule by law: It's one source I used this source in writing an article, "Is it too late to drive out Bush?" If and when the time comes that this gov't starts rounding up folks - do you think your neighbors are going to help you get away? I think not, and I bet the "christians' will help the gov't turn in and round up people saying it's all part of the revelation of JC - the whole winnowing prophecy coming true - separating the "chaff from the wheat" and the gov't considers ignorant mouth breathing passive Americans super good wheat and the rest of us a bunch of chaff. This is why impeachment is so important right now. Today. Immediately. by Cheryl Abraham (13 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 207 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:31:03 PM (0+)
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The following is a reply from another poster
to an email I sent out on this subject, and although I agree with it's sentiments, I have a hard time dismissing the claims made in the supposed Congressional meeting for the simple fact that those that committed the heinous crime of 9/11 are still very much in power without even a hint of being taken down. And if they can murder 3,000 people in broad daylight and get away with it what's to stop them from doing anything? Including all that's in this alleged report and more? I've heard it said that the worst never happens - tell that to victims of 9/11 and their families. Tell it to the millions upon millions that have been exterminated by brutal ruthless psychopathic sociopaths through-out history. No, I'm afraid the worst can and does happen. We've been living in a dream-world in this country for a long time. The crimes we've committed cloaked in apple-pie and all that feel-good American hokum, while the rest of the world waited for our arrogance and folly to lead us to this time. They're not going to treat a bunch of spoiled brats kindly just because we've run out of luck, not after what we've done. And the international scum bankers that are behind our fall don't care either. For all they care we're nothing but a bunch of mixed-breed useless food eaters. The sooner we die the better. So although I agree with much of the following, I will keep my powder dry and prepare as best I can for the worst and like the rest of us hope for the best. Their post: This, however, is based on speculation and not actual reports. Let me prove this to you. http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-922,00,00.html On Tuesday, March 25, 2008, the on-line Australia to USA 24/7 reported: http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=1fde2498-d8c8-44f3-9c94-4a27f8407536 Conversely, the Last Trumpet Newsletter from Beaver Dam, WI reported in May 2008 that the above theories were fact. The “facts” contained in the Last Trumpet’s report became “news” and were represented as such, as supposedly leaked by members of Congress in attendance of the closed meeting. Note however, that the Last Trumpet closed the paragraph containing the so-named "report", with a statement that “Obviously, there is no documentary proof for the above as the meetings were secret. The information, however, does fit the profile of what is going on around us. Our Almighty Saviour is ultimately in charge. Time will tell if these things are so, and time is running out!” So even while The Last Trumpet Newsletter concurs with the Australian report, that this is conjecture and not fact, some Internet blogger ran with the information and represented it as hard-core reality. And it has scared many liberals nearly half to death. It could be reality-based, but it would appear to be a hoax. Here is a reality check for you: Kucinich’s interview with Amy Goodman about the secret Congressional meeting should help to put our minds a little bit at ease. You can watch the video, below: http://www.videosift.com/video/Dennis-Kucinich-speaks-about-secret-congress-meeting In this short interview with Amy Goodman, Kucinich said that he refused to participate in the closed-door session because “you give up your conscience. You can’t tell anybody that they lied to you…they propagandize….to tell anybody would be violating confidentiality”. He said that he suspected the meeting was about the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (not the same as the Telecom Immunity bill) which would monitor the phone calls and emails of Americans communicating with people overseas. What we as activists need to do, is to demand, in letters to the underground and college newsletter editors, that the transcripts of the secret meeting be ordered. Heck, try the mainstream newspapers too. The only *guarantee* that our letters won’t be printed is if we don’t submit. And if we fail, at least we did our best. And if our letters are printed, at least we also helped to get the matters of secrecy in government on the public radar. That right there is an accomplishment. So the effort will be well worth it, even if Congress (as is likely) never does vote to make the records public. Let’s look at the fear about internment camps for Americans. And don’ t get me wrong: I don’t hold this as an impossibility. That said, let’s look at some thought loops we humans commonly have going through our heads, and tease them apart. Fear has a way of telling us that a certain scenario is GOING to happen, as a DEFINITE REALITY. This is a cognitive distortion, and a brain trick to which we, as emotional creatures, may be subjectively vulnerable. To look at fear objectively instead of subjectively, from an intellectual distance instead of from an emotionally involved plane, one comes to realize that certain things are POSSIBILITIES. Probably very vague possibilities, at that. This contrasts sharply with the fear message in our heads, which insists that something-or-other WILL happen. We get graphic imagery in our head about it, which resonates with our emotional nature. Objective intellect takes a back seat as the emotional person within is practically seared by the wild emotions. Trust me, I know this from first-hand experience, and that is why I have come to realize that fear always exaggerates. And the horror movies in our heads almost never come to pass. I say “almost” never though, because in fact I don’t put it past Bush and Cheney to falsely imprison innocent Americans who are vocal. It’s already happening on a smaller scale, with the FBI investigating innocent Americans, and activists comprising the bulk of no-fly lists. Given their proclivity to go to war based on lies and to endanger a life out of revenge (Valerie Plame), why wouldn’t they punish vocal citizens in this way? I do think this is a possibility and having seen dictatorships become murderous when living next door to the Iron Curtain, I don’t think this is impossible. But I also want to break through the “facts” in our heads which may actually be fear-based exaggerations and cognitive distortions. The “report” concerning the internment of Americans in FEMA camps, the collapse of our economy and the conversion to the Amero, has scared the liberal cross-sector into thinking that Congress members leaked a “report” about these “facts“. This is not the case. It’s only theory. And we need to keep that in mind. FYI, a cognitive therapy method is to stall worrying during the day, but then to give oneself ten minutes per day to sit and do nothing but worry. Go ahead: Imagine all the worst! Give yourself a good laugh. Because it all seems absurd when you “go for it” in this way. You get things back into perspective after seeing the mental imagery in your mind running wild. When the worry crops its ugly little head back up---because it will---don't control it. Control doesn't work. Instead, just see it for what it is: A distortion of mind games. Tell yourself that it's just a horror movie comprised of exaggerations, an emotional snare which lies by making itself *feel* so real. You will feel better right away. Another thing which helps me in dealing with fear is to get information about it. The more fact-based my reality, the more my head calms down. I urge us liberals to do the same, and to be sure that what we report is thoroughly researched before assuming anything is accurate truth. And especially, before we report it as such. Reporting such "facts" Which scare us all is a disservice to people, needless to say. But also, may I suggest that certain things don't belong in print. Why give the government any hot ideas? (I am writing about it now because it's already been all over the Web. And it's time to bust the bubble not so much about the FEMA camps per se, but about the so-called "leaked contents" of that secret Congressional meeting. Last but not least, the reaction from one European I spoke with about the FEMA camps and incarceration of Americans, was that “they can’t do that. They’d be at war with Europe if they did”. by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:25:39 PM (0+)
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Another thing
Watch this video from a mainstream media story: by Cheryl Abraham (13 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 207 comments) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:47:47 PM (0+)
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For any nay-sayers
here is a copy of a cover letter from a congressman to his nosey constituent http://www.apfn.org/apfn/con__1.jpg Since 1997 this has been going on. Since 1986 Garden Plot http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/suppression.html by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 463 comments [24 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 2:18:31 PM (0+)
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I was in a family that's in the Shadow Government
SHEDDING LIGHT on the SHADOW GOVERNMENT, PART I by Marty Didier (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 21 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:43:39 PM (0+)
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So the "action" is...
... to write your congressperp and "demand" ...call the media and "demand" ...or what... we'll use a bigger font? Probably going to take a bit more than that, don'cha think? by waldopaper (15 articles, 3 quicklinks, 34 diaries, 609 comments [84 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:54:44 PM (0+)
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Reply: write your congressman, don't think so
Hi, I have undertaken several write your congressmen campaigns wiht my web readership and they all end in complete failure. A couple or more years ago, many had actual email addresses, and most now have contact forms. They NEVER answer themselves by email. You select a topic and back comes the canned answer. EVen if you use the portion of the form that says some version of "other" you still get back the canned answer, as this picks the most common words out of the letter for the reply. It's all computer managed and the congress person never sees your letter. Under "other" I experimentmented, writing nonsense letters, but they had to be in real words, junk stuff like typing eixyalentmdy did not work, even if some of the words were real. So I typed random real words, and intersperced them with words like Iraq, War, etc, etc, and lo and behold, back comes the canned answer to the problem. Calls to the national numbers often suggested on the web are useless too. Handwritten mailed letters NEVER produce an answer either. The only action that may work is people in great numbers for safety, consistantly visiting the offices when they are home, or not home perhaps. I suggest groups take material with them and leave generous copies with the secretaries etc. Maybe we can get to the office staff if not the "elected" official. Someone at a meeting recently suggested by law the congressman must agree to an appointment. Bullshit. Law matters not in this country anymore. In Arizona, a man went without food, in conjunction with a 911 event, for days on end, close to a month I believe, trying to get an appointment with McCain and asking him to talk 911. Didn't work. McCains office said the Senator was too busy. Good news though in Arizona, there is an Arizona Senater, actually she just finished office and isn't running again that has gotten interested in 911. I wish the 911 movement would stop the asking for a new inquest into 911 and start hanging out everywhere and finding their power and doing something. A new inquest will be just as false as the last one. Its the lame way out. If we keep putting out free DVD's with 5 movies on them, someday the public will wake up and when enough of us wakeup action will be taken. Bull. There are enough awake now, and few new ones will come aboard at this point, 911 is forgotten, and just "knowing" doesn't mean action will be taken. Where is the ACTION out there. There is an endless "debate' probably a rehash of Kucinich today in Congress on CSPAN right now. Seems to not be going to far. Thugs are trying to make the crimes of this president less than criminal and treasonus. Some people are better than others. Hopefully tomorrow the news will carry something about it. Kucinich looks tired and haggard. He has gained weight I see. Whenever Kucinich takes the floor for a special presentation, the audience is always gone, and he talks to the cameraman. Happened when he pushed all those points for impeachment recently. Ok, a lady wants an "impeachment inquiry" as the only option at this late date. A former US Representative stating that. Not real helpful. Lots of nothing going on as near as I can tell. by Candace Frieze (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 30 comments) on Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:54:37 PM (0+)
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