How could this have happened?

Rev. Dobson and his buddies/evangelist plotters, must have been hankerin' for Madame Mooseburger for some time, and they probably pitched it to Cheney and Karl Rove, who stupidly, I surmise, gave their blessings....

This certainly impugns McCain's judgment, in my view. Bottom of his class at the Naval Academy or not, he is getting some lousy advice.

by Eliot Gould (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 21 diaries, 134 comments) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 10:54:28 PM
 

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Anybody remember Pawlenty leaving in a huff?

At some point the Repugnants were out on the campaign trail, the worshipful vetted VP candidates hanging out with Big Bad John in a kind of caucus of "leaders," and then there some kind of private internal fireworks or implosion, and Minnesota Governor Pawlenty left abruptly, going back to Minneapolis? Wonder what happened? Did he get the word that Sarah Palin was coming out on top? If this is true, and I believe it to be so, or I wouldn't have posted this article, McCain should have done an IQ test of his own, or doesn't Intelligence matter any more at the Republican Party?

Personally, I haven't liked this Palin since I watched the first aerial wolf slaughter video.

by Stephen Fox (79 articles, 2 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 443 comments) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 11:02:07 PM
 

Sarah Palin's IQ, etc

It's so "doggone" obvious to all those with any intelligence (well, at least those with a mean score of 100 or above) that Palin is, at best, of "borderline retarded" intelligence. That's probably a generous ranking, too, as she does not seem able to comprehend even childishly simple sentences like, "I find that Sarah Palin abused her power." Nor can she think rational thoughts, speak logical or complete sentences, or decipher truth from fiction (let alone separate "good guys" from "bad guys"). It's sad that she's so in our faces for now, but I cannot wait until she is vanquished back to the snowmobile circuit after (a very long) three weeks.

by Rocky Roll (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 11:33:16 PM
 

Rocky: well said. If you run for office, it all comes out!

Soon we will be free of both of them. Get ready to celebrate early in the evening, not like staying up to watch the swindle in 2000 and in 2004!

by Stephen Fox (79 articles, 2 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 443 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 9:07:16 AM
 

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opinion vs informed opinion

Since most of us never know each other's IQ, it's silly to try to decide if an opinion is more valid based on an IQ. It's more important to know how you came to your opinion. What information did you review? That being said, what specific observation of Palin brings you to the conclusion that she is more intelligent than the other candidates? If you are a Harvard grad with multiple degrees, this should be a cakewalk for you right? Because by now you should know how to engage in critical thinking, and support your conclusions with evidence. But I didn't see any in your post...

by reblnews (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 1:53:02 PM
 

I too disagree. IQ is malleble so that means education.

That and how you use the information you have. Genius isn't IQ just look up the late physicist Dr. Richard Feynman. His IQ was listed as 127,[mine is 126] but he is considered a genius because of his constant flow of creative ideas. There is an excellent book on creative genius and how it manifests and how it tends to be suppressed in our school systems*. How you and I can recapture some of it. How they operate. IQ like Emotional Intelligence~ are separate and can affect how you do in our society. [Emotional Intelligence more than IQ it has been found.] I don't do well in school. Just didn't fit well in it.

I fair best when I am on my own, un-structured. My emotional IQ is poor so it limits my sociability index and my manner of speaking is high level but most must consider me a poseur. It is difficult to operate in that millieux.

*"Cracking Creativity" by Michael Michalko
~"Emotional Intelligence" by Daniel Goleman

by nightgaunt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 251 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 2:08:15 PM
 

Are we really having this discussion?

What's OUR I.Q. (verbal or otherwise)? The dang article got pulled as bogus, or at least baseless.

Let's evaluate all the candidates on the merits of their positions, secondarily on how clearly they can convey them, not forgetting to add or subtract merits for whether they act like chimps -- fling "stuff" -- while they're at it, and let's try to stop with the characterizations.

Here endeth my contribution. (Yes, I guess that for a moment I am having this discussion.) Back to live issues.

by editnetwork (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 56 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 4:38:07 PM
 

are the documents real?

I realize the article was yanked, but are the documents real? Hard to say... they look authentic (at least in comparison to the kinds of school records I have) but I know anything can be faked.

Anyway, my point in my first post was that a person (the previous poster) who has graduated from Harvard should certainly know the difference between opinion and informed opinion, and should have some kind of supporting evidence for his views. That's all...

by reblnews (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 7:33:03 PM
 

looking in to that last question....

What is strange is that the person who wrote the paragraph about the ostensible records as a 30 year clinical psychologist, thus imparting credibility about the records, backed down and said someone else wrote it, she didn't know who. If they are fake, they chumped daily kos and drudge, but hey, if that turns out, I will be in a club with shnockered journalists that includes the New York Times and Dan Rather. I would rather of course get a volume of important information out there, even if once I may have been wrong, and if I was wrong, I will find out soon, and let y'all know....

by Stephen Fox (79 articles, 2 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 443 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 9:21:33 PM
 

Palin's IQ

Mr. Fox, you were suckered because you so desperately WANTED to believe that nonsense. Next time, try fact-checking.....it's a "101" class in any J-School.

by Richard Robbins (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 30 comments) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 11:14:05 PM
 

Richard, sorry, but I don't think you comprehend this yet.

The "documents" came with a cover letter by a women who was a 30-year practicing clinical psychologist. I merely posted it. I didn't as you say "so desparately wanted to believe" anything. Posting an article by someone else is not the same as posting one of your own. I got schnockered just like Daily Kos, Drudge, and others got schnockered. No big deal, anyway; time to move on. 

I still believe some of those records to be correct, but as a private citizen/volunteer, I don't have the time, money, nor interest to fly up to Wasilla to check on Madame Mooseburger's Elementary School grade records or hight school IQ scores, even if such were available.

by Stephen Fox (79 articles, 2 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 443 comments) on Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 8:24:50 AM
 

Some Suggestions

Is anyone going through Palin's trash?  How about examining her stool samples to see if she is taking drugs?   Is there someone tailing her 24/7 to see if she passes gas or belches inappropriately.  Does she wash her hands after using the restroom?  There is a lot of good stuff out there. Obama needs to get people on this stuff right away.   Some of Clinton's PIs are probably available.  They know how to destroy women's lives.  The American People have a right to know.  This is the New Politics - The Politics of Personal Destruction at its best. 

by Mad Jayhawk (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 399 comments) on Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 12:55:06 AM