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PETER'S NEW YORK, Nov. 19, 2008--One of the major critics of the U.S. government's version of the events of September 11, 2001 is calling for the formation of a "truth and reconciliation commission" to get to the bottom of the happenings of that day .David Ray Griffin, author of seven books on 9-11, including his latest, "A New Pearl Harbor Revisited," all of which are critical of the government's 9-11 investigations, said on the Alex Jones radio program today that he believed the administration of incoming U.S. President Barack Obama will be more open to the establishment of such a commission. "With a new administration...there is really a chance" that there could be a new 9-11 investigation, Griffin said. Griffin described Obama as "very bright," with a strong moral compass and an appreciation of the U.S. constitution. "He and his people will be open to evidence" that contradicts government accounts, Griffin said. He also said that Obama was likely to embrace the idea of forgiveness that would be essential for a truth and reconciliation commission. "He's willing to let bygones be bygones," said Griffin.Similar commissions have been established in countries that have been beset by corruption and the human tragedy it generates. Such a body was established, for example, by the South African government in the 1990s, and offered amnesty to those who freely confessed to committing heinous crimes during the Apartheid regime. Confessions by police and other groups participating in atrocities against black citizens in the white-dominated South African government eventually revealed the scope and character of abuses. Griffin and other critics of the U.S. government's 9-11 storyline believe that the events of that day were far more likely to have been carried out by those high in government circles than by the rag tag team of 19 "hijackers" the government alleges took control of four commercial airliners, plunging two of them into each of the twin towers of New York City's World Trade Center and a third into the Pentagon in northern Virginia. A fourth airliner is said to have crashed in a field in Pennsylvania with military aircraft in hot pursuit. The government has refused to release to investigators information linking any of the commercial flights with serial numbers of recovered wreckage, fueling doubts that the commercial airliners the government claims to have been used by the hijackers were in all instances the ones that crashed on that day. Critics point to the virtual impossibility that the alleged hijackers would have had sufficient training to pilot commercial airliners, let alone without the support of air traffic controllers over hundreds of miles of airspace at high speeds. Many critics, who voice their concerns on web sites such as www.911blogger.com and www.911thruth.com, say an analysis of the government's explanation shows that it is replete with omissions, untruths and outright deception. They also insist that the report issued in 2004 by the congressionally mandated "9-11 Commission" was little more than a concocted fiction to cover up the real events of that day and their perpetrators. 
As the years have passed, more evidence has accrued bolstering alternative versions, which, according to polls, are widely subscribed to by the American public.Those supportive of Griffin's viewpoint include a host of notables such as country music legend Willie Nelson, actor Martin Sheen, former Minnesota governor and professional wrestler Jesse Ventura, radio personality Alex Jones, former Brigham Young University professor Steven Jones, and West Coast architect Richard Gage. Others, such as 2008 presidential contender Ralph Nader, have embraced the idea of a new 9-11 investigation without aligning themselves to any particular theory of what actually happened on that fateful day.
Some websites devoted to alternative theories implicate President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney and other current and former members of government in designing, authorizing and clandestinely carrying out the attacks, ostensibly to use as a justification for an aggressively militant Middle East policy and a crackdown on dissent at home. In the meantime, the U.S. government has devoted a good deal of web space on sites such as http://usinfo.state.gov to discouraging alternative explanations, which it describes as "myths" or "conspiracy theories." Griffin's solution is to lay aside the blame game, and to invite a spirit of forgiveness into the proceedings so that the light of truth can reveal what may eventually come to be known as one of the ugliest footnotes in the history of the United States.."I'm not interested in revenge," said Griffin. He said a truth and reconciliation commission would "get the truth out and get the policies changed."
Also interviewed on the same radio program today was Professor Steven Jones, who says he and other researchers have uncovered in dust samples from the World Trade Center site evidence that incendiary devices were used to trigger the collapses of the twin towers and the 47-story Building 7 of the World Trade Center complex. Jones was pressured by Brigham Young University to retire in 2007 because of his views on 9-11. "There's a lot we can learn from the hard physical evidence," Jones said, citing the existence of steel beams in the wreckage of the buildings, portions of which are known to have vaporized, as well as the existence of intact chips of unexploded thermate, a compound of iron oxide, aluminum and other accelerants that can melt steel beams when ignited. The vaporized steel demonstrates that temperatures higher than can be achieved by office fires or jet fuel combustion were present when the buildings fell, according to Jones. Jones also points to the removal of steel from the World Trade Center site before it could be forensically examined, as well as the destruction of, or failure to collect, dust samples, as evidence of a government cover-up. He said that "other investigators with subpoena power" would be better equipped to get answers to some of the perplexing questions that critics have raised and that the government has dodged. Jones said he hopes new samples of 9-11 dust will surface that will enable the world scientific community to conduct further research into the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings.
As to an upcoming National Geographic special that will focus on the destruction of Building 7, Jones said he was glad to have participated in an interview that will be part of the program. "I think it's very important that we continue to reach people through the media, even if they are not entirely friendly to us," Jones said. Show host Alex Jones took a different tone, however, stating that he declined to be interviewed for the program because he thought it would be a "hit job" against government critics. He called such programs "intellectual quackery. Jones also said he was skeptical that an Obama administration would reinvestigate 9-11. "I think we're going to see betrayal," he said.
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New investigation?
There will be NO NEW INVESTIGATION. The new "Chief of Staff" Rahmbo(la kosher nostra kingpin) will see to that. http://www.911missinglinks.com/ by Roger Thomas (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 131 comments [10 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:00:29 PM  (0+)
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Foregiveness?
Foregiveness for the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of people for the sake of getting the truth out? How would that work? Convene a new commission with the hope these criminals will come clean if they won't be punished? Someone should check to see what Griffin has been smoking. There will be no re-investigation of 9-11, just as there was no re-investigation of the JFK murder. The only presidential candidate that even hinted at a re-investigation, Dennis Kucinich, was summarily skewered by the mainstream press in the primaries to the extent that it helped sink his campaign. Another perplexing statistic is the one about which I keep hearing that supposedly shows this enormous number of people who suspect government involvment in 9-11. If that's the case, why weren't more people demonstrating this concern when they had the opportunity to question all these candidates starting about a year ago? Isn't it logical to think that this would be of primary concern, considering the course of events of the past 8 years? Grassroots efforts, as well-intentioned and noble as they are, are not going to be enough to thrust 9-11 Truth into the mainstream - the only place where it has to emerge in order for meaningful change to happen. From what I can determine, 9-11 Truth can only come to light through a concerted, highly organized, clandestine plan to get a high profile person of influence and authority to start a dialogue in the mainstream, which the mainstream media can not censore or ignore (think live TV). Several others would also have to be groomed and protected and be ready to support this initial person. A firestorm of controversy would have to be assured to ensue, with other 9-11 Truthers with name recognition jumping in. This would take an extraordinary amount of coordination, but it would not be impossible, and if it had been thought through and begun a few years ago by high profile members of the 9-11 Truth movement, it could have been ready to be rolled out by now. But no, faith in grassroots awareness has this movement spinning its wheels. by Bill Cain (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 434 comments [67 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:15:41 PM (0+)
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I hate the 911 traitors and crooks.
However, I agree. It is far more important for Americans to learn that the evil exists and has probably existed since the Battleship Maine. Anything that will help Americans realize that we are a nation of nothing more than a bunch of crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards might prevent the next con job. by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:28:51 PM (0+)
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Correction
There is no www.911thruth.com. It should read www.911truth.org. by Peter Duveen (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 197 comments [30 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:37:57 PM (0+)
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it won't do
There is not a good parallel between the African situation and 9/11. What America did following 9/11 impacted sovereign nations and resulted in the deaths of millions, the maiming of millions and the formation of countless millions of refugees. Nothing less than the incarceration of the perpetrators will allow America to hold up its head up again. Solitary confinement of the instigators in glass on display at the WTC would be my preferred option. It is to be hoped that some brave attorney will find enough protection to enable charges to be laid. by gravity32 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 201 comments [38 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:24:08 PM (0+)
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Reply: Brave Attorney?
There is a brave attorney. His name is Vincent Bugliosi, the same attorney who successfully prosecuted Charles Manson, and whose recent book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder" has been effectively suppressed in the mainstream. He supported a third party candidate for Vermont Attorney General who ran on a platform of prosecuting Bush for his crimes, and who received 5% of the vote for her troubles. by Bill Cain (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 434 comments [67 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:45:06 PM (0+)
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wrongful death
If the US were to suggest that individuals representing the US government faked various aspects of 9/11 and the need for the subsequent war, would the government be liable for wrongful death suits???? by sometimes blinded (4 articles, 106 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 614 comments [51 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:26:57 PM (0+)
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justice
No justice; No peace by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 888 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:48:43 PM (0+)
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Reconciliation after the trials, convictions, and punishment
I'm not so burdened by Christs teachings as is minister Grilffin, though I respect them. However, to hold on to our civilized society we've had to codify laws. To ignore these laws, especially when the crimes are so greivous as these, is to plunge us back into a society of men, not laws where side arms are necessary for survival and where the spoils go to the strongest and most ruthless. Lets wait till after a proper investigation and trial, and if the punishment for these capital crimes is death then we can reconcil at their grave site. by Richard Lee (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 178 comments [40 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:49:15 PM (0+)
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Reconciliation
Last time I looked, the US was not a third world developing country ruled by a dictator. Those are the countries that create truth and reconciliation commissions. The first world are countries based on law and the desires of the president or prime minister of the day do not pre-empt the judicial system which decides who is criminally charged and who isn't. The executive branch ( the head of state) should have no say in it. The president should have absolutely no right to tell the judicial system not to charge this person or to charge another person for obvious reasons. The law itself as administered by the officers of the judicial system must make that decision. In other words it should have no political component, none! by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1750 comments [110 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:58:54 AM (0+)
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The official 9/11 story is an obvious lie
The real “change” we should demand Congress and Obama/Biden bring is the repeal of all unconstitutional laws that have been passed in the name of this manufactured “war on terror”, and get our troops out of all operations supposedly justified by the same deception. Over 1 million Iraqi and Afghani civilians (a fact the corporate media ignores), and thousands of our troops, have already been killed on an operation based on lies. The only thing that can probably stop their insane imperial/police-state agenda, bring our troops home and get our Rights back, is the same thing I and many others have been saying for years now: Impeachment (They’re still in the White House people! We must have accountability for war crimes and abuse of power!) & expose the 9/11 Lie which is the foundation of their entire agenda, through quality sources of information, like these: a) Books: by Colin Donoghue (7 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:10:12 AM (0+)
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A Rhetorical Question
What good is truth without justice? by Sam Adams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments) on Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:29:59 AM (0+)
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The Linchpin
No way, no how, should those who engineered and produced the horror spectacle of 9/11 be let off the hook! They need to be pursued to the grave and resoundingly repudiated and punished, for all of history. I've said it for years now: this event, similar to, but unlike any other in it's scope and ferocity, is the linchpin to all the Evils visited upon us and US on the rest of the world since, and will be a festering wound on our national psyches and our Democracy until it is finally exposed, lanced and cauterized. The real problem is how many villains, besides the Main players, there will be, and how many cherished myths must be demolished along with the sacred cows. . by Bia Winter (6 articles, 2 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 756 comments [119 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:58:00 PM (0+)
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Collection of David Ray Griffin media
He is David Ray Griffin . . . he is my father . . . and my mother . . . my brother . . . my friend. He is you . . . and me. He is all of us. by Edward Rynearson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 34 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:19:32 PM (0+)
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