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Israel ready to annihilate 70 million Iranians
By Roland Michel Tremblay (about the author) Page 3 of 4 page(s)
I feel that if greed and thirst for power were to be stated as the reasons for wars, and religion and philosophy, then it would expose way too obviously humanity as what it really is. And yet, this is what history is truly all about, to show how human nature is selfish, greedy, an endless desire to kill everyone else on this planet for its own sake. This is history as we really came to know it.
Don't kid yourself, nothing has changed, we are still as barbaric today as we were hundreds of years ago. Technology is by no mean making us look any better. It makes us look worse, because now, we are capable of annihilating the whole world, and we will eventually do just that.
There is no hope for humanity, this is what history tells us. And as much as you would like to believe that history does not apply to what is happening today, that somehow we have now learned all the lessons of history, that we are so civilized compared with those barbarians of the past, you would never be so wrong.
History will be there to tell it all to future generations, just as it was, as long as then, they will be as good at reading between the lines as you are right now when you read your own history books. This world, all of history, is just a distorted truth, and it is up to you to find the real truth behind it, just like it is your duty today to find out what is the truth behind what will one day be described as our history to future generations.
I think it is fair to say that we had enough of wars, that humanity at this time agrees that the history of humankind is ugly and shows nothing commendable. It is also fair to say that no one wants another world war justified by half baked arguments, like false flag terrorism, or potentially threatening countries we all know are not threatening. It is simple, if we were to stop acting as if we own the world, if we were to stop threatening everyone around and start working towards a lasting peace in a just and fair world, there would be no threat, there would be no war.
And what if Iran gets a nuclear bomb in the end? Just about everyone else on this planet has one in its own backyard. Hell, I have read enough on the topic that I could possibly build one myself. The recipe is, after all, in many books in just about every single library in the world. Any last year physics student can build one.
How to make a nuclear bomb has never been a secret, it is basic physics, and then only a few tests are required to get the balance right. Oh, and this little problem, easily circumvented, of finding the ingredients. Or what did you think, that they were impossible to find or buy, in a capitalist world?
We all have a nuclear bomb ready to explode in our back pocket, no one can now prevent that. Trying to prevent them from exploding through pre-emptive strikes, will most assuredly insure that they will all explode at once. You can quote me on that.
You could not possibly annihilate every country that will develop a nuclear bomb, since any country could do it now. Perhaps if left unprovoked, Iran will never use it. Right now, I feel we are much more likely going to use it through fear and unnecessary pre-emptive strikes, and obliterate this world before anyone else.
History is not made by the victors or the losers, it is made right now by a few leaders/dictators elected in so-called democracies. The history of humanity will not become what we make it to be, it will become what a few unwise leaders decided it will be, because despite so-called democracies, we are not in control of humanity's destiny.
There is no reason to believe that even in 1000 years, history will be any different from what we have observed in the last 2000 years. It will just be more destructive, that's all. At least it won't be bloody, nuclear just vaporizes people out of existence. It will still be about killing everyone else in order to take advantage of their natural resources, and whatever else, imposing unto others religions and political philosophies like capitalism, communism and socialism. The day we finally succeed, is the day we are all dead.
Humanity's history cannot change until a few leaders can no longer decide the fate of that humanity. Until a true democracy, involving the decision power of every single individual, is actually put into place.
We can no longer afford a few people deciding the fate of history. Either you have a true democracy or you don't. We have not witnessed at all, at any time in history, a true democracy. It would require for that every single person on this planet being able, individually, to vote on any decision, on any new law, on any new war to be fought.
Today for the first time we have the technology to make this come true. And at that point, if individually, everyone on this planet were to say that being gay is wrong and that I should be executed for being gay, I will accept it and gladly die.
Since then, it would not be one politician who decided my fate, or one priest or religious leader. It would not be one little group of people, it would be everyone, and then you cannot but accept what everyone decides.
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and condi rice gave aipac "our" endorsement
since when should a government worker give carte blanche to a deeply disturbed nation (not that isreal can be really called deely disturbed or can it) the go ahead to bite a passing dog (and this is just a metaphor...some of my best friends are iranians and don't agree with their leader who wants to bite instead of just bark)....i think the jewish books of the bible (in Proverbs?) have something warning about that....and when i heard rice tell aipac that when they go after iran we will back them...why are we the united states of israel...don't we have a say, as the United States-ers to JUST SAY NO! Where is Mrs Reagan when we need her. Thank you for this though provoking article....why can't we stop what has been set in motion....aren't there military people out there willing to just say no? by karmacounselor (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 128 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:11:19 AM  (0+)
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A Piece Of Advice To The Israeli Leadership
As a former weapons-systems expert and member of Nuclear Weapons Handling Teams, I have this pieceof advice to offer the Israeli Leadership. Before you decide to start Nuclear War, go to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Talk to the Habekusha there, the survivors of the bombing, ALL OF THEM. Ask for their OK. If they give it, then you can do it. If they say no, you can't. The Holocaust was a genocide, but merely one in a long, sad list of genocides carried out over our history. The ONLY people who have ever been atomic-bombed are the Habekusha. Therefore, the Habekusha are the only people on this EARTH who have EARNED the right to order Nuclear Weapons use. by Ishmael1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 62 comments [8 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:25:46 PM (0+)
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Destructivism can be avoided
Comment from Ratings: If each individual human merely being concentrates on always doing what is right (rather than what suits us)..... ...and if just one individual nuclear-tipped superstate manufactured a few grams of political common-sense....just enough for them to realize they'd actually become more powerful by a voluntarily program to remanufacture their evil arsenal into peaceful electric-power-generation... Any hypothetically sane and sensible leader would start off assuming Iran aspirations in this respect were entirely honorable. But the idiots in the White House cannot do this while they still have their own grossly-fat fingers on a nuclear trigger. They hit the A-button on Hirosima and Nagasaki...(and incidentally on the Twin Towers)... and their puppetmasters will do it again...even they simply contract the evil deed to the illegal immigrant government in Palestine-called-Israel. Or to BlackWater. by hommedespoir (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 87 comments [55 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:37:28 PM (0+)
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Reply: thank you for adding the towers in your list....
where is the video link that explains that the pulverising is from a nuclear force, one that has fallout stopped when water is sprayed on it.... what were they practicing for.... merci homme d'espoir by karmacounselor (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 128 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:23:06 PM (0+)
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You have taken "probablies" and turned them into "definites.
Mr Tremblay wrote: it confirms that Iran will definitely be attacked, and a Nuclear Third World War declared. No, actually, it doesn't. It says that Israel will "almost surely attack Iran’s nuclear sites in the next four to seven months," emphasis mine, and that such an attack, if made, would use conventional weapons. The article goes further to say that one of Israel's options, should the attack not damage Iran's nuclear weapons R&D facilities sufficiently to end the Iranian's nuclear weapons programs, would be a nuclear attack. The author notes the other option, to allow the Iranians to acquire the bomb and hope for the best — meaning a nuclear standoff, with the prospect of mutual assured destruction preventing the Iranians from actually using the weapon. Dr Morris' original contains several qualifiers, which you have ignored; your language reads as though an Israeli attack, which Dr Morris seems to regard as very probable, is a definite thing. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will be leaving office in September, when the Kudina Party chooses a new leader, probably either Foreign Minister Tzippi Livni or Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz. It is not clear that either one would be able to hold the Kudina-led coalition in the Knesset intact, and the government might fall, leading to new elections. It becomes a stretch to say that a new prime minister could not only hold together such a coalition and authorize strikes against Iran, all in the narrow time frame of November 5th to January 19th, and that such is a definite thing. by Dana Pico (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 205 comments [7 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:27:52 PM (0+)
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Reply: McCain would like to be the one.
If you doubt that, find a you tube close up of him singing those words, "Bomb, bomb, bomb, Bomb, bomb Iran". Note the look in his eyes. It is quite disturbing. by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:02:03 PM (0+)
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Israel must be Hitler's archetypical Jew.
They will do anything for advantage. by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1822 comments [61 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:14:53 PM (0+)
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Preemptive War is Out for Israel
If Israel started a war with Iran, every Israeli involved in it would suffer 1,000,000 years in hell for murder. Few Israelis would dare risk that. Mr Tremblay should have entitled his article "America ready to annihilate 70 million Iranians." He raises American issues not Isaeli. The US CIA has murdered six millions human beings of color rarely a top story in the news. Vaporizing 70 millions non-Christians might raise a fuss for a few weeks, but it would quickly abate. The real debate is would it help Republicans in November. by Jason Paz (99 articles, 105 quicklinks, 136 diaries, 2173 comments [205 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:22:33 AM (0+)
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Reply: They'd find a way
...to justify it as "Defense", because, you know, they are ALWAYS the Victims. by Bia Winter (7 articles, 2 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 996 comments [235 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:53:00 AM (0+)
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Nuclear Nations?
Let's see, what other countries besides Israel have nuclear bomb abilities? Oh, USA, Pakistan, N. Korea, possibly Iran, Russia. Have I missed any? Itchy trigger fingers plus power-rage are easy to trigger. What is the fallout information on nuclear bombs over Tehran? Could it circle the Earth? Hmmm, probably. Wonder if some nice, powerful talks could stop the swaggering owners of bomb shelters. They must think they are immune to radio active fallout, right? You can't duct tape your way out of radioactive fallout. by zephyr (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 79 comments [6 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:43:11 AM (0+)
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i wonder
if anyone in powerful political positions has the seminal courage to stop Bush-Israel-et al. Britain? France? Sweden? NATO? by zephyr (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 79 comments [6 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:52:42 AM (0+)
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More countries than that have nuclear weapons
And you forgot United Kingdom, France, China and India. Those are the countries we know have nuclear capabilities. There are countries that could easily build a nuclear weapon very quickly if it became necessary, like Canada. Who knows, it might soon become a necessity. We can never have enough nuclear weapons, don't you agree? And to answer Dana Pico, I agree that I should have written "...it confirms 'in my mind' that Iran will definitely be attacked, and a Nuclear Third World War declared." I did not because immediately after I suggested it: "I cannot see how it could be avoided, considering how fearful and desperate..." I admit it was confusing. Roland Michel Tremblay http://www.themarginal.com/destructivism.htm by Roland Michel Tremblay (41 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 45 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:00:28 AM (0+)
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No evidence of Iran since 2003 on nuclear weapons.
The fatwa by the supreme Ayatollah Ali Kameni is the letter of the law. The president is a titular position, a figurehead position in Iran. The nuclear energy program in Iran was started under the Shah Pahlavi in the late 1970's when it was a client state of the USA. An attack by Israel would be madness. Such and unprovoked attack would put the Israeli leadership in line with other butchers of the past including Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Not company they should want to be with. The USA policies of 'preemptive war' was condemned by the Nuremberg Trials as the highest form of crime. This is something that doesn't have to be but the USA and Israeli peoples need to unseat these psychopaths from office or it will happen! by nightgaunt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 482 comments [34 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:32:45 PM (0+)
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Japanese nuclear attack victims
Ismael1, your reference to the Japanese victims is a well taken point. I'm unsure of your Japanese language ability but the population to which you refer are hibakusha. After living/working in Japan for 32 years, I am confident that despite the Japanese government's generally conservative bias, the hibakusha would, almost unanimously, denounce any nuclear attack by anyone. As the only nation to ever be on the receiving end of such horror, they know better than anyone else what it really means. by Larry Retzack (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 46 comments) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:04:09 PM (0+)
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no win situation
If Israel nukes Iran, we all lose. Nuclear fallout roams the globe over time. If Israel nukes 70 million ppl, that is genocide and the most provacative move to get the whole world involved. Don't forget our troops will be near the fallout and many will die as they are near or IN Iran. Good job on "supporting" our troops Mr. President. Don't forget George Bush said he wanted to be the leader of Armageddon. Israel uses the USA and Bush uses the military arsenal to get his Armageddon and pretends he is Jesus Christ returned. What a heartless drama king Bush is...and a tragedy unfolding. "There is corruption over having power over others" by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 686 comments [149 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:25:58 PM (0+)
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Israel ready to annihilate................
Nothing illustrates the moral backrupcy of the nation state more than the holding of nuclear weapons and other WMDs. Israel has become just another 'darkness' among nations. There has never been any light here. by R. A. Landbeck (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 86 comments [8 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:18:48 PM (0+)
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