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Regarding Carville's analysis of Rove

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The real lesson here as far as I am concerned, ignoring what we all on this site know to be poisonous and horrific Rovian policies is that whether you are on the right or the left, if you overreach and enact policies or run election campaigns on things for which the populace is not ready, you may win in the short term, but in the long term, you lose.

That point is regardless if the things for which you are fighting are "Right".

This is the central point of what I am often trying to argue here with Rich and many others. You argue that Democrats aren't doing enough of the "Right" things. I dont necessarily disagree. But look what happened to the public acceptance of Democratic policies in the wake of Lyndon Johnson's great society policies. I think they were "Right" but they resulted in a massive amount of the population believing that the Democrats were not in line with their way of thinking. Over the next 10-20 years after LBJ, more and more people identified themselves as Republicans.

If Nixon had not committed his crimes, you would have had probably 30 years or so of uninterrupted Republican rule after LBJ. Think about that and what it would have meant.

It doesnt help if we elect 400 progressive congresspeople and a President to go along with it one election cycle only to have the population decide they were not ready for it and elect conservative republicans for the next 10 election cycles who not only dismember everything the progressive legislators did but roll back various other democratic/liberal/progressive programs.

The answer is to convince the populace of what you believe is right before you attempt to enact legislation. People who have followed my writings will know that I have been calling for this for a long time.

 

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Here we go again, Steve by ardee D. on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:29:00 PM
The war is a specific instance in which I agree with you by Steven Leser on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 1:47:05 PM
Not only a Democratic Party failure. by ardee D. on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 6:36:13 PM
It is one of the commonly accepted ideas of leadership... by Steven Leser on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 6:11:01 PM
The first thing to understand by Blue Pilgrim on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 1:42:47 PM
There are questionable assumptions in the conceptual model by Richard Mynick on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 7:02:11 PM
Ditto What Ardee, bluepilgrim, and RichM Said!!! by RCG on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 9:41:06 PM
America desperately needs third parties-- lots of them by Rob Kall on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 10:07:27 PM
Thought this article might interest by ardee D. on Tuesday, Aug 21, 2007 at 6:44:01 AM
Third party observations by Andris on Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:30:30 AM
As we speak ... by Mr M on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:37:47 PM
The derailing of the argument that my argument is derailed.. by Steven Leser on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 3:31:22 PM
it's the fascists by Blue Pilgrim on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 4:05:50 PM
You are partly right... by Steven Leser on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 6:17:17 PM
no, I'm not proving your point at all by Blue Pilgrim on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 6:47:04 PM
Yes, you did, and you continue to misstate my position by Steven Leser on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 6:54:36 PM
here we go 'round the (mulberry?) bush? by Blue Pilgrim on Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:11:38 PM
You think the Kerry election was stolen Pilgrim? by Brett Paatsch on Tuesday, Aug 21, 2007 at 8:57:18 PM
If you agree to play by the rules... by Steven Leser on Tuesday, Aug 21, 2007 at 9:23:47 PM
Proof, I dont need no stinkin proof by ardee D. on Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 10:20:29 AM
I haven't followed it that closely in detail by Blue Pilgrim on Wednesday, Aug 22, 2007 at 12:02:12 AM
Something for you to think about by Andris on Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 2:01:38 AM
Republican elections by Swami Bogananda on Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 10:18:02 AM