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Sociopathic Society, Bully Nation; Interview with Charles Derber

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Charles Derber, professor in the Department of Sociology, Boston College and author of 20 books, including Bully Nation, Sociopathic Society, and Welcome to the Revolution, and The Pursuit of Attention.

First, youre a sociology professor. What does that bring to the table thats different?

Next, in our correspondence, you wrote to me, saying,
the Left since the sixties has abandoned the class politics of
bottom up organizing and moved toward identity politics. This has created a tremendous opening for right wing populism with its own perverted
appeal to workers while allowing them to exploit their own white nationalist identity politics.

Could you define what identity politics is is and the issues you have with it?

The Democrats, of course, have been top down for decades (and the Clintons really exacerbated this)

so part of the challenge is also how to to build a relation between bottom-up movements on the streets with a Democratic Party that is locked into Wall St.

We might want to talk about "united fronts" as they face prospects of authoritarian and Neo-fascist regimes including Trumpism.

the core of universalizing resistance is to bring together a currently fragmented Left in a coordinated anti-systemic struggle against top down capitalist economics and intersectional power hierarchies involving capitalism, militarism, race, and gender/gender orientation, and immigrants. This requires serious restructuring of our current bottom movements both in their vision and organization.

What are issues that will make progressive candidates stand out from more centrist DNC candidates?

Institutionalized Bullying built into our cultural systems.

Systemic roots of bullying
School, capitalism, militarism, empire

Capitalism needs 99% of the population to be submissive to authority.
Bullying disguised as beneficent

Bullying is at root authoritarian

Cultural conservative warriors?

Environmental bullying"animals and nature.
Antibullying culture/ cultures

Role of the family in bullying" both haven and heart of a heartless world
Family as battlefield in the culture wars.
Perkins, LeHaye, Dobson, Santorum

Redefining who is a bully"kind of a history of bullying
The worst forms

Solutions to bullying

You talk about a new kind of protest and resistance in your book coming out this summer"Welcome to the Revolution.
Systemic Power"defining the system

Sociopathic society, systems, culture, capitalism, foreign policy
Sociocide is under way

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He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity

He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites,

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, (more...)

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