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Massive Small Change: 1-- a Bottom-up Way to Think About Community: Kelvin Campbell

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Broadcast 6/26/2019 at 11:20 AM EDT (11 Listens, 5 Downloads, 2732 Itunes)
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Kelvin Campbell author of Massive Small Change

Kelvin Campbell is a collaborative urbanist and writer. He is the chair of Smart Urbanism and the Massive Small Collective. A Former visiting professor in urban design at the University of Westminster and chairman of the Urban Design Group, Campbell is now honorary professor at the Centre for Advanced Spatial Analysis at the Bartlett School of Architecture, University College London,

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Pre and during interview notes;

What is massive small?


Tell a story

"Harnessing the collective power of many small ideas and actions to make a big difference. "

The system is not broken: it was built this way.

The System

"Things happen despite government, not because of it. Instead of waiting for the authorities or established organizations to act, people are getting going themselves."

"Too often, people's energy is obstructed by our top-down systems." " the system works against them, stifling their initiative and knocking them back.

"Radical incrementalism"

Lean urbanism

no city is doing massive small better than berlin.

Social capital

System change

Closed vs open system

Top-down systems need to be evolved to release the potentials for greater bottom-up activity

Why do systems fail?

They treat cities as things that are ordered and mechanical, as problems to be solved, not as complex places of rich and dirverse possibility where people use their ingenuity and energy to make things happen.

Is the system broken?

Shifting from centralized top down to distributed bottom up

Paradigm shift

From big to small government

Why big plans fail

Bigness model vs Massive Small model


Bottom-up systems don't work without some form of top-down activity

What is a top down system

Talk about top down tools, tactics and strategies

Talk about a bottom-up System

Talk about bottom-up tools, tactics and strategies

How can we reconcile conflicts and potentials between BU and TD?

Complex vs simple

Dee Hocksimple principles give rise to complex and intelligent behavior

Complex rules and regulations give rise to simple and stupid behavior

The antidote to bigness P 84

Small acts, stories



Picasso: "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them lke an artist"

Simple rules vs complex rules

Open: Open environments, standards

The Way

Active citizenship

The grid

Changeevolution not revolution

What is change?


Giantism is the first sign of failure

Leopold Kohr: Whenever something's wrong something is too big.

Kirkpatrick Sale Human Scale

The bigger-is-better paradigm that has defined modern times has brought civilization to a crisis point.

Harness people's latent creativity harnessing the collective power of many small ideas and actions.

People trying to do bottom up projects get stifled by the system.

Big solutions are lazy ways of solving complex problems.

You criticize urban planning

Participatory, bottom-up budgeting

We need a form of top-down that works with bottom-up

Vernacular emerges from bottom up

Operating system is self organizing, which is much more open and connected

Strive for organized complexity, which emerges from a bottom up system

What does top down need to be to release bottom up?

Conditions, rules, leadership

Can sound libertarian

Need to get human habitat right

Paradigmalready underway happening despite government. People are saying we can't wait for things to happen.

The system doesn't work for the bulk of the world at the moment.

Must turn state and top-down around.

"Your work is fantastic. Wish I had have seen your book while I was writing mine."

Distributed vs central systems.

Organized Complexity

So much of our thinking is about looking backwards. If you only look at the rear view mirror, all you see is dust.

BU is Grass roots, collective action

TD is government at all levels tools and tactics that add up to be the system.

New contract between top-down and bottom-up

Most strategic initiatives are driven from the top and don't happen.

Need to move away from this predictive plan modelto a more feedback review driven approach.

Run systems in parallel

Look for soliutions to bigness

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media.

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He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity

He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites, OpEdNews.com

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, (more...)

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