Broadcast 1/25/2012 at 17:22:23
The Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show Podcast
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Mark Perry (born 1950) is an American author specializing in military, intelligence, and foreign affairs analysis. He has authored eight books: Four Stars, Eclipse: The Last Days of the CIA, A Fire In Zion: Inside the Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process, Conceived in Liberty,Lift Up Thy Voice, Grant and Twain, Partners In Command, and Talking To Terrorists.Perry's articles have been featured in a number of leading publications including The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The Nation, Newsday, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Christian Science Monitor, and The Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio). He is a graduate of Northwestern Military and Naval Academy and of Boston University.
Perry is the former co-Director of the Washington, D.C., London, and Beirut-based Conflicts Forum, which specializes in engaging with Islamist movements in the Levant in dialogue with the West. Perry served as co-Director for over five years. A detailed five-part series on this experience was published by the Asia Times in March and in July 2006. Perry served as an unofficial advisor to PLO Chairman and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat from 1989 to 2004.
Perry has appeared on numerous national and international televised forums. He is a frequent guest commentator and expert on Al-Jazeera television, has appeared regularly on CNN's The International Hour and on Special Assignment. Perry's work on the CIA's program to destabilize the Saddam Hussein regime, originally published by Regardies magazine, was the basis for an award winning BBC Panorama production of "The Intelligence War Against Iraq". His son, Cal Perry, was a CNN Mideast correspondent and is currently al-Jazeera's Jerusalem correspondent.
Perry's books have met with critical acclaim from Kirkus Reviews, The Washington Post, The New York Review of Books, The New York Times, The New Yorker, and many other publications. He has served as editor of Washington D.C.'s City Paper, and the Veteran, the largest circulation newspaper for veterans. Perry was also Washington correspondent for The Palestine Report,  and is currently a senior fellow at the Jerusalem Media and Communications Center.
Perry was a senior foreign policy analyst for Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation(VVAF). VVAF, a leading international humanitarian organization, co-founded the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize recipient. Perry served as the political director for the VVAF's Campaign for a Landmine Free World.
As of 2011, he was at work on his ninth book, MacArthur At War, to be published by Basic Books in 2012.
It's very clear that Israeli intelligence agencies, posing as US CIA"
A lot happens in London. Israelis attempted recruitment in London, Casablanca Morocco and two places in Pakistan.
Mossad pretended to be North Atlantic Treaty Org"
Reported up CIA chain of command and up to White House. When Bush learns of this he was very angry.
It puts Americans in danger-- in Pakistan and possibly in Iran itself. It's a very dangerous operation and frankly not the first time this has happened. Israel has engaged in other false flag operations operating as Americans.
Jeff Stein. wrote about"Mossad officers in the United States recruiting Arab Americans.
One occurred in Sudan many years ago. CIA officer was able to hustle out Mossad officers acting as CIA.
The Israelis seem to be known for this kind of things.
Talking to senior military officials-- General Jo Hoar, Centcom, said "
Two days before article came out, Nuclear Scientist's motorcycle blew up.
We can make a putative case that Israel recruited Jundalah for violant
MEK Mujadin Al Khalk-- violently opposed to Iranian regime, but also viewed as a cult, very dedicated, extremely violent-- have been reported as having been recruited by Israel, but I'm starting to doubt it-- very
May be an organization being used to undermine Iranian regime-- no evidence.
Rendell, Howard Dean, General James Jones, Patrick Kennedy-- all have spoken for them. Why? You get pretty good speaking fees for speaking at their conferences.
Some of the people who appear don't know the full extent of violence of these groups and are just taking them money.
Under Bush, while it sparked an argument inside the National Security council inside the white house" after a few days, things calm down, people say let it go". bureaucratic inertia. It seemed easier to do nothing than to do something. The discussion suffocated. It was just let go.
Under Obama, Jundallah was put on the terrorist watch list. An intelligence officer source said that was a no-brainer.
There's a growing community, some thing Israel has done that is not in our interest.
This is really an embarrassment for Israel, not in the interest of the United States. Israels ability to hurt itself in the US-- it's really difficult.
FLAME advocating killing Iranian physicists.
War in the middle east with Iran would be astonishingly bad for our economy.
Use of language--
common in the US to talk about Jewish settlements. They're not Jewish settlements, they're Israeli settlements.
Even the Palestinians talk about Jewish settlements.
Rob: When supporters talk about the Jewish state, or Jews against Palestinians, they are really helping the Israelis.
His book, TALKING TO TERRORISTS.
Spent 2005, 2006 listening to Hamas and Hezbollah. These are not ballet school attendees. They are hard nosed political operators.
First is about what h append in Anbar province in Iraq that led to awakening in Iraq and turned the war around-- initially called insurgents .
Nelson Mandela was condemned in this country for 25 years for being a terrorist and we now view him as a hero.
If people adopt democracy and give up violence as a means to a political end, then I think we ought to talk to them, and we also have to make it clear that we will not support a group that targets civilians for political purposes.
Rob: Like Mossad?
that was a mistake
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