From Consortium News
Despite Donald Trump's long history of stiffing workers, dodging taxes and abusing women, he will become the 45th President of the United States, a remarkable turn of events that has a lot of liberals and Democrats scratching their heads and wondering how he could have beaten the powerful Clinton political/money machine.
One person who was not surprised was journalist and filmmaker John Pilger, who was born in Sydney, Australia, and now is based in London. Pilger has reported from all over the world, covering numerous wars, notably Vietnam. When he was in his 20's, he became the youngest journalist to receive Britain's highest award for journalism, Journalist of the Year, which he won twice. He also has an Emmy and his most recent book is Hidden Agendas and the New Rulers of the World.
Dennis Bernstein: I'm going to ask you later on about the new film, which I'm very excited about. But let's begin with [the Nov. 8] victory over Clinton, by Trump. Were you surprised? What do you think was at the core of the Trump victory?
John Pilger: You know, I wasn't surprised. Brexit undoubtedly helped this. I wasn't surprised. I think I'm quite surprised by how decisive his victory is. But I must say I felt rather angry, and I think we probably expended enough anger on Trump. He'll, no doubt, provide us with plenty of material coming up. But I think it's time for people, so-called liberal people, to look in the mirror.
Who created Trump? Who created this disastrous election, so-called campaign? In my opinion the enablers of all of this was the liberal class, in the United States. The liberal class has refused to acknowledge, in its arrogance, the huge disaffection and discontent among ordinary people. And painting them in such broad strokes has been... what did Clinton call them?..."deplorables" and "irredeemable"? That's really disgraceful.
DB: Yes, that's my father.
JP: You know, Clinton was an extremely dangerous prospect. Dangerous because she represented a war making, rapacious status quo. The status quo would have, actually, altered slightly under her. It's my understanding, in fact, I believe that she might have provoked a very major war, with Syria and with Russia.
We don't know what Trump will do. We have to now, putting aside all the parodies and the abuse, we have to now be thinking in terms of practicalities. He's running the show. What will he do? But I think before we do that, again, we have to reflect on all the myths.
I heard a Harvard professor on the BBC, on the very night, before the count began, talk about the hard left in the Democratic Party, and how she would have to embrace the idea of Bernie Sanders and what he stood for. You know, this kind of drivel, and misrepresentation has been everywhere. The media, personally, and I'm speaking of journalists, produced probably the most unfettered propaganda I can remember at any time. In my career, this has been the worst.
There was no serious attempt, really, to analyze and examine either candidate and what they stood for. Trump was dismissed as a demon, with all the salacious stuff around him, undoubtedly some of it true, and all of that. But he was a serious candidate, he was never analyzed, and that's why there's a great surprise, and a great shock.
And, it's something that liberal America has to start coming to terms with itself. We had Barack Obama presented seriously as a candidate of hope and real change. He was nothing of the kind. He was in fact a warmonger. He's got four wars going at once. He conducted an international terrorist campaign using drones. He has prosecuted more whistleblowers than any president in American history. And, you know, when you think of Trump's disgraceful remarks about throwing people out of the country, and building a wall... who is the Deporter-in-Chief? The liberal Barack Obama. He has deported more people than any other president.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers arresting suspects during a raid in 2010.
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So, all of these facts have been lost and they represent a real crisis for the opposition in the United States, the broad opposition. Barack Obama's great achievement was that he killed off the anti-war movement, because people, doe-eyed from the beginning, thought that Barack Obama was some kind of genuine inspirational liberal, instead of the warmonger that he is. I think there's a lot of these people [who] are going to be listening to your program, they need to hear this.
Say that there is a real opposition to Trump and what he's going to do. We don't know what he's going to do, but also an understanding of his constituency, the majority of Americans eligible to vote voted for him. That's a fact that has to be come to terms with, we have to come to terms with.
DB: You know I think, John Pilger, you know I'm thinking about all the things Hillary Clinton accused by Trump of, oh, you know, supporting Bill Clinton's attacks on women, and molestations. I'm not really interested in that, at this point, because what I'm interested in is how she sustained Bill Clinton's war policy. You remember Layla Al-Attar, right? You remember how Bill Clinton sowed his oats in his first days of his presidency by killing this leading artist of the Middle East who welcomed women into the art world, an unusual situation. It happened in the context of Hillary Clinton giving her famous speech in Beijing about women. But she never mentioned Layla Al-Attar. She never apologized to the family. Layla's daughter was blinded, in that attack. She was getting operations, getting medical treatment near Stanford where the Clintons would go visit Chelsea. And she never said a word. But, anyway, more on that?
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