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Attacking the innocent is an inherent GOP trait.

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Look! See the article "Is Nancy Pelosi Complicit in Torture?" at
is purely a product of Rove's propaganda machine! The GOP doesn't cooperate with the Democrats and why would big bro 43 let the "loyal opposition" in on his vilest secret?

This is the group that gave Congress 1 day to pass the original Patriot Act. Any Democrat who dissented was included in the Cleland, bin laden ad! That's why the bill was ladened with unrelated pork such as giving major pharmaceuticals immunity for drugs that maimed our children-which has exactly what to do with the Patriot Act?

The article, after delineating why Democrats were allegedly--but erroneously culpable for "waterboarding, rendition, and other crimes against humanity" concluded "And it confirms the theory that the Democrats are merely "Republican light".

If this is true, then torture may be tolerated, and perhaps even encouraged, in the foreseeable future by our elected officials on both sides of the aisle, despite what they might tell us in public.

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And, if this is true, then it doesn't matter how we voted in 2006, and (perish the thought) it might not matter how we vote in 2008."

This was a well written, logical argument, which was based on lies that W's team fed the 4th estate-the same fools who brought us "Operation Iraqi Freedom" and were very close to bringing us into "Operation Iranian Freedom". We all have to realize that the term used in software development "GIGO" – "garbage in garbage out" applies to article writing also.

The article "CIA Chief: Hill Should Have Been Told More" at
clearly describes that the Hill, including Pelosi, were left out of the loop yet again stating "Congress was not fully informed about the videotaping of harsh interrogation methods used on two al-Qaeda terrorism suspects in 2002 or the destruction of those tapes three years later, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden said yesterday. "We could have done an awful lot better in keeping the committee alerted and informed as to that activity," Hayden said after a meeting of the House intelligence committee. Hayden disclosed the existence of the videotapes in a letter to CIA personnel last week, contending then that "the leaders of our oversight committees in Congress were informed of the videos years ago and of the agency's intention to dispose of the material." But Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Tex.), the committee chairman, told reporters after a three-hour session behind closed doors that "we feel, on a bipartisan level, that our committee . . . has not been kept informed, and we are very frustrated about that issue." Reyes and Rep. Peter Hoekstra (Mich.), the ranking Republican on the panel, said the committee's investigation into the harsh interrogation methods used on terrorism suspects Zayn al-Abidin Muhammed Hussein, commonly known as Abu Zubaida, and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri would take months. They said they would bring in a list of witnesses that includes former CIA clandestine-service head Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., who allegedly ordered the tapes destroyed, and other former senior officials including George J. Tenet, who was CIA director when the tapes were made, and former congressman Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.), who led the agency when they were destroyed."

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Hoekstra isn't partial to Democrats or reality. His statements agreeing that the Hill was duped--taking culpability away from the Democrats will be soon be recanted, but retractions don't make the front page. Remember he was claiming that some information he found validated the existence of WMD in Iraq as late as June of 2006, when the non-psychotic remainder of the world believed that the diametrical opposite. Let me digress with in June of 2006 Hoekstra unequivocally claimed that WMD had been found in Iraq. From a June 21 2006 press conference with Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) the pathetic pair proclaimed, "Hoekstra and I are here today to say that we have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons."

Someone told the fool to button his lip about such nonsense and he soon did.

The Democrats have to have facts when dealing with this CIA tape turning as "The committee also intends to question Deputy Secretary of State John D. Negroponte, who was director of national intelligence when the tapes were destroyed.
One question still to be explored is whether records of the interrogations exist. Senior intelligence officials have said in interviews that no transcripts were made, and Hoekstra said after yesterday's session that "there may not be transcripts." But he also said that "there is a full explanation of exactly what happened in the interrogation sessions" and that Hayden said, "those documents will be made available for the committee to review." Hayden said that there were "cables that came back from the [interrogation] site." These were messages that are the basis for Hayden's statement last week that "the interrogations had already been exhaustively detailed in written channels," a senior intelligence official said yesterday."

How vile are these goons? Peace is War and whoever rewrites history owns it, but the GOP loutish thugs will pay for this as "The destruction of the tapes has set off a flurry of activity in federal courts, where several judges had previously ordered the CIA to preserve records related to interrogations. Yesterday, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a motion in federal court in New York seeking a contempt finding against the CIA, alleging that the tape destruction violated a court order in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.
Also yesterday, 28 retired generals and admirals wrote to the House and Senate intelligence committees urging them to require the CIA to abandon harsh interrogation techniques. Among the signers were two retired Army generals who investigated the Abu Ghraib detainee abuses in Iraq, Gen. Paul J. Kern and Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba. They called the CIA's secret set of rules "unwise and impractical."

Where do they get the stones to do this? The article "Hayden Tells Panel He Can't Answer Every Question About Tapes" at click here should contain Hayden's admission of guilt and his willingness to implicate his superiors in trade for a lessened sentence. Some acceptance of responsibility is
never an option for this vile crew, instead "CIA Director Michael V. Hayden told the Senate intelligence committee in a closed hearing yesterday that he was unable to answer key questions about the destruction of interrogation videotapes because the decisions were made before he worked at the CIA.

Hayden told reporters after the hearing that he had "a chance to lay out the narrative, the history of why the tapes were destroyed." But because the tapes were made in 2002 under then-CIA Director George J. Tenet and were destroyed in 2005 under another director, former representative Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.), Hayden said he is unable to answer all the panel's questions. "Other people in the agency know about this far better than I," Hayden said.Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), the intelligence panel's chairman, told reporters that the hearing was "useful and not yet complete" because of Hayden's inability to supply crucial information, including who authorized the destruction of videotapes and why lawmakers were not told about it sooner, or at all."

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Hayden should be ignored. Former CIA officer, John Kiriakou, who unlike Hayden was involved with the CIA at the time of these interrogations, and was involved in them, has implicated the White House. Once we know this
crew is involved we realize that Herr Karl never saw a situation that he didn't reinvent into a history that attempted to gain his crew a permanent GOP advantage-so consequentially all of the lies you hear the GOP spew now will amount to nothing.

Why is Hayden splitting hairs when Hoekstra, as well as Kiriakou, a source far removed the GOP thug goon Hoekstra, have been saying that the CIA had time to torch the tapes, but left written evidence unscathed. Why did Herr Karl not burn the papers? Authoritarian goons like this love burning books to substantiate their version of reality. Why not the papers?

They are attempting to destroy all of our credibility in justice in the US and another manifestation of this can be found in he article "Secret U.S. Intelligence Court Intends To Keep Wiretap Rulings Under Wraps" at
mentions that "In particular, the ACLU wanted copies of at least one court order issued this year that, according to administration officials and congressional Republicans, concluded that parts of the program are illegal."

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