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Trump: Jewish people who vote Democrat show 'total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty' Donald Trump is urging Jewish voters not to cast their ballots votes for Democrats, adding that doing so 'shows either a total lack of knowledge or great ...
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Trump's comment "I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- I think it shows either total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty." may be aimed at Jews. After all Trump is dumb enough and has enough contempt for Jews to insult them that way. But most importantly, Trump is talking to the approximately 70 million Evangelical Zionists who are his most reliable base.

When Trump tells Netanyahu to ban Omar and Tlaib, they are pandering to their most important American base-- the seventy million Evangelical Zionists.

Christian Zionists are the most reliable supporters of the Republican party. And they support Israel because of their belief in biblical prophesy that the Jews have to control Israel for the return of the messiah, followed by "the rapture," when believers are transported to heaven, leaving non-believers left-behind (the title of a hugely selling book series.)

I wouldn't be surprised if a tiny percentage of Jews, probably less than two percent, may be moved by Trump's moronic utterance. Bottom-line, I don't think Trump's dog whistle, bigoted remark will work with Jews and it could bite back. So tis is just more pandering to the Christian right. And they should be ashamed that THEY have not chastised him for his words.

The Republican party tweeted in support of Trump, clearly showing they are clueless on what real anti-semitism is.

 

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For a counterpoint, see here.

I initially thought barring these 2 congresswomen was a paranoid over-reaction, but now I am not so sure.

Their intended visits - e.g. the Al Aqsa Mosque atop the Temple Mount - could stir riots, which have certainly occurred many times in the recent past for lesser reasons.

Their support for BDS - whose founders openly want the destruction of Israel - is support for that and also anti-Semitic. "Occupation" means the West Bank and Gaza to Americans. It means that plus Israel to the Palestinians, who don't even include Israel on their maps or school lessons.

As the linked article above points out, there are many times we've barred foreign dignitaries, and Europe has banned Israelis too. So, Israel is not alone in doing this.


I don't like the banning, because then the issue becomes the ban, not the behavior of Israel and the Palestinians towards each other, or BDS, or anything else. It detracts from the central issues. A better approach would have been to try to meet with the Congresswomen, then if they refuse, it would be them, not Israel, who refuses communication efforts.

It's not about changing their minds - that is probably impossible - but about Israel's standing in the world; their PR is terrible for just this reason.


But I can also understand how they could want to appease the Orange Man in the White House. Israel remains out staunchest ally, and the greatest recipient of foreign aid.



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End the Foreign Aid and see how long Israel remains our Staunchest ally!

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As always, the false Zionist narrative explains it so well. No, support for BDS is not anti-Semitic. No, being anti-Zionist is not anti-Semitic. And no, opposing the racist and criminal state of Israel is not anti-Semitic. Your post utilizes the usual Zionist method of scapegoating the Congresswomen who are being banned as wanting to destroy Israel, a completely dishonest accusation. And on it goes. By the way, Israel does not have the right to be a racist state. Since it now de jure racist, it is in fact an outlaw state. Not that it matters as long as it has the full support of the U.S. for its continuing murder of the Palestinians and theft of their land and resources. The U.S. provision of military aid is in fact in violation of both international and U.S. law due to Israel's possession of nuclear weapons, an open "secret" which is, of course, well known by the U.S. Unfortunately the rule of law is, according to the U.S. and Israel, not applicable to them. The result is the oppression, mass murder and imprisonment of the peoples whose land and resources have been stolen by Israel.

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You might be surprised at how many Jews I know who support BDS. One was born in Jerusalem. He supports one state with equal rights for all as do I. Is that anti-Semitic?

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I support one state with equal rights too, but in stages, with Judea and Samaria first, and Gaza put off indefinitely. BTW, so does supposedly right-wing Israeli journalist Caroline Glick, in her book "The Israeli Solution." She has a chapter in which she dispels the inflated count of Palestinians to show the demographic "time bomb" does not exist, i.e. Jews will retain a majority even if West Bank Palestinians are absorbed, with those Palestinians who cannot abide becoming part of the "Jewish State" emigrating to Gaza.


The BDS movement is founded by people who are avowed anti-Zionists and also anti-Semites. Anyone who support it is either that too, or ignorant of its true mission, which is the destruction of the Jewish State (see also my comment below).

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Israel's policy in the occupied territories is nothing more than old fashioned settler colonialism for all the same self interested reasons. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. It needs to end.

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Israel is our "staunchest ally."


Yes, it appears to be so, mainly so we can keep our hands on Mideast oil. Not to mention the Zionist overwhelming influence in our politics, media, internet, entertainment, and more.

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"Meet with the people we were going to meet with, see the things we were going to see, hear the stories we were going to hear." Omar said Israel's decision was "not consistent with democracy and not reflective of actions taken by an ally of the US" - Rep Ilhan Omar (D-MN). #legitimacy.

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I took his statement to mean that Jews who vote for Democrats are being disloyal to Israel. Especially since he was talking about the pro-BDS members of Congress who were banned from visiting the illegally and brutally occupied Palestinian West Bank. However, he probably meant they're being disloyal to both the US and the Jewish state of Israel.


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You are correct. He obviously could not truthfully say the Zionist state of Israel. The CZ of course smear and mash it all together.

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The Christian Zionist movement is a growing threat that will ultimately endanger the planet. It was through massive CZ voter support that Bolsanaro was able to win the election that reurned fascim to Brazil. It's spread through Latin America will continue to damage nascent social democratic efforts in the same way that islamic fundamentalism eroded Pan-Arabism and Arab Socialist movements in the Middle East. It is even more likely to succeed as it has aggressive US support to achieve its pattern of chaos with the bifurcated goal of denying democracy in developing nations and creating more territory MIC's endless war.

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I am confused by your comments.

"Their support for BDS - whose founders openly want the destruction of Israel - is support for that and also anti-Semitic. "Occupation" means the West Bank and Gaza to Americans. It means that plus Israel to the Palestinians, who don't even include Israel on their maps or school lessons."

How is the objection to the Zionist entity controlling Israel anti-Semitic and the same as wanting the destruction of Israel? It is the destruction of the zionist entity that is desired, the same as is the desire of many in this world to destroy the entity that controls the drive for world domination by the US and its partners.

I don't understand how you can be so right on many issues and be off track here?

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Yes, bother me when read them words by Scott.


This thought just came too me today. Israel is itself Anti-Semitic for they are totally opposite of what Abraham or his children would be. Same goes for the Religious Right being opposite of the lamb who laid down his life for all to be free.

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According to Wikipedia:

Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת Tsiyyonut [t͡sijo̞ˈnut] after Zion) is the nationalist movement of the Jewish people that espouses the re-establishment of and support for a Jewish state in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (roughly corresponding to Canaan, the Holy Land, or the region of Palestine).

Given that, how could anti-Zionism be anything but anti-Israel(ism)? The destruction of the "Zionist entity" is the destruction of Israel.


Israel is an ethno-state. It is not really a theocracy, like say, Iran or Saudi Arabia (where you can't even legally own a Bible), because it is still governed by Democratic institutions and by a secular court system, which even includes some Palestinian legislators and lawyers, BTW (I heard a Palestinian-Israeli Supreme Court Justice speak once here in NYC). It's hardly egalitarian, and its new laws give priority to Jewish interests and values, it is true. But there is a second reason Israel is not a theocracy and that has to do with Judaism itself, which is not just a religion, but an identity. Like 50% of Jews, according to a Gallup poll, I question the existence of God (actually, more than question in my case, I am an atheist. But look up Jewish atheists in Wikipedia and you'll see the list goes on forever; I'm proud to be in such company).


The occupation is not an occupation because:

A. The lands in question are disputed territories, not a State (at least not yet), nor were Palestinians ever a nationality.

B. Palestinians run their own day to day affairs, albeit with potential interference from Israel during frequent conflicts. Others interfere with Palestinian governance too, from the United Nations and United States aid, without which the highly corrupt Palestinian authorities could not exist, to Iran and operatives in the Sinai who provide arms to Hamas, etc.


Getting back to the Congresswomen. They probably should have been allowed to go to Israel, but an effort at outreach to them should have been made, even if it would be rebuffed, though maybe it wouldn't have been. Omar and Tlaib are politicians too, after all, capable of making political calculations and managing reactions. As I said previously, the ban has now become the issue, which distracts from the real issues. This is counter-productive. Trump, as usual, has used the ban as a wedge issue to divide Americans. He has succeeded and it may even help him retake the White House, which, barring a recession in the next 12 months or so, I believe he will (for many, if not most people, we are still in a recession, but the American people believe the stats over their own experience, or else don't vote, can't vote, have given up on change from the top, or vote on race or other issues that don't get to the core of their problems, which are largely on Class relations).


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It doesn't surprise me that Wikipedia would be displaying a "definition" such as that. It would be interesting to see how many "revisions" were made to it over the last 5 years.

But even by that definition, Zionism is still described as merely the mission to take Palestine over and add it to Israel. The rest of it is just word salad attempting to attach this mission to "the Jewish people". That's the dishonest part.

Zionists are people who practice this goal of annexation. They do not necessarily represent "the Jewish people". They are merely the people who currently have power in Israel. Many Jews, inside and outside of Israel, do NOT support Zionism, just as there are non-Jews who are against it.

All these people who are against the Zionist mandate, both Jews and non-Jews, are NOT anti-Semites. They're merely anti-Zionists.

Zionism is not an actual religion, nor are Zionists even a race. You can't affix the "anti-Semitist" label to those who are opposed to it. But, it's quite obvious there are people working very hard to protect Zionists by hiding them behind a false "blanket of Judaism". (True Jews don't support the apartheid going on in their name.)

Israel is a COUNTRY. Zionism is a POLICY. Judaism is a RELIGION. Right now, the country's policies are in line with Zionism, the same way Washington's policies are in lines with the NeoCons, many of which are also "evangelical Christians". Those of you who are against all the endless war crimes committed by the U.S. are quite often disingenuously labeled "anti-American", or even "anti-Christian" in some cases.

Now you've got Americans being labeled "anti-Semitist" for speaking out against similar crimes committed by Israel. Some of those Americans are currently part of your government and trying to stop the slaughter in Palestine. Banning those representatives from coming to Israel wasn't just "overkill", as you suggested, but was clearly another tactic (enabled by your own President) to avoid any international discussion on Israel's behaviour.

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I questioned that definition myself for it seems far from the intent of what Israel's leaders want to do, which seems is to rule the world from the top down as is going on today. Sorry, but the world will be ruled from the bottom up.

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Guess there's a first time for everything...

Seriously, "ruled" by definition means someone at the top dictating the lives of people at the bottom. Everything else is just anarchy.

Not opining on good vs. bad ruling, just on definitions.

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Am looking for the bottom to tell the top what we want. This top down the Tyrants love.

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That didn't help.

Is there a Judaism state?

Do Jewish scholars of the Torah condone the zionist Israeli state's murder of Palestinians? Do any of them gloat in the IDF killing of Palestinian youth, emergency medical workers and children? Do any of them agree with the "self defensive" posture of the Israeli military that allows them to invade the air space of their sovereign neighbors to bomb and kill them?

Forgive me for asking such stupid questions. I am unaware of any Jew that would condone such actions, are you? Therefore the Israelis who perform such acts are actually anti-semitic and behave the same as the murderous ruling elites.

It seems to me, that the zionist use Judaism as a shield against all criticism of their non jewish behavior which is ultimately behavior that is contrary to the laws of the Torah upon which Judaism is based. This is nearly identical to the non zionist ruling elites who no longer it appears give a damn about pretexts one way or another.

In other words the zionists are fake jews and are potentially as dangerous for some people as it is for the other to be handling a fake gun in Walmart. Fake news, fake christians, fake charities, churches, fake patriots, fake democracy, fake rule of law...fake freakin fake. The world has had enough already.

Come on. Get real. Give it up.

Peace.

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Don't be sad, get mad! Vote Shad 2020!

I will write you on to my Oregon ballot next year.

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You got the spirit Brother!


Electorily I would keep a local focal, and not become a "politican."

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Does Trump belong to any Religion? Christianity maybe? If so, which of that religion's tenets does he adhere to and which does he ignore?

The "religion" of capitalism doesn't count.

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It may not "count" but it IS one of the lunacies that drive this insecure toddler.

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John - I miss the cartoons. Do you have a collection available?

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He really is very good, isn't he? Click

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Indeed he is!

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SPOILER ALERT: Jews, Christians and Muslims BELIEVE in the Book of Genesis. John the Baptist was not Catholic. Jesus was a Protestant Jew. Evolution is fake news!

DONALD J. TRUMP's name does not appear in any Bible. Blame the Editor!

DONALD J. TRUMP came to divide and conquer the material world --The Book of Trump 20:20

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Mrs. Fuxit. You make me crazy. Tanks a rot.

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"Evolution is fake news!"


Would you be so kind as to write a book on that one?


I am seriously curious as to the depths of your ignorance.

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I think BFalcon donned a new persona to continue to terrorize the rest of us.

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I started watching 'The Family' on Netflix.

Absolutely terrifying.

This documentary is inspired by Jeff Sharlet's book "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power."

The Family

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What is your definition of "destruction of Israel"? Is it the same misunderstood definition that the MSM ran with when Ahmajinedad said that the Jewish govt should be absolved and replaced with a fair system for all, Jews, Muslims, Christians and Atheists. I've said before that anti-Semite and anti-Zionist as a slur has lost it's sting.

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Sorry Rob. My message was to Scott Baker, not you.

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If President Trump gets re-elected, he may order publishing Bibles with his name in it. With his wealth, it will be easy to do. Many before him have revised the historical facts, why not Trump?

Sayings such as Praise the Lord, may change to Praise the Trump.

God Help the weaker nations.

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I gave a thumbs up, assuming you are including the King of Weaker Nations, starting with the U.S., with zero moral or even common sense basis.

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"After all Trump is dumb enough and has enough contempt

for Jews to insult them that way."


For some "unknown reason," I cannot find the video, after many searches on different search engines, where Trump proclaims his Tree of Life Award, hanging on his apartment wall, as one of the greatest achievements of his life.


Maybe someone else can find and post it?


If he has "contempt for Jews," it's mighty hard to find. Just ask Sheldon Adelson along with countless others.



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I post this older article to introduce an video that the Zionists have removed from YouTube. However, the overflow of comments are at least as revealing as the video itself imo click here

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Thanks Daniel Geery for your time, care, and concerns. I appreciate seeing you participate in discussions.

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I saw that video a while back, found his research compelling. sad that the discussion raised irrelevant antisemitism issues. again. the point was to discuss the evidence. what really happened. That is what many of us want to know. Irving pieced together a real picture based on facts that can be read in combination with eyewitness testimony. Hundreds of thousands died of typhus, overwork, starvation, were shot for failure to produce the required work quota or for being too weak to try. These were labor camps. The question has always been around the gas chambers, which were reliably used to delouse clothing - but for execution? That is where the questions arise. Comparing it to 9/11, Americans would not have been persuaded to go to war against 7 countries had the towers simply been damaged by two planes and had not vaporized live on CNN. And how would the world see Israel's zionism today if, say, 600,000 Jews and assorted others had died in the camps of starvation and typhus rather than zyklon B. The gassing of six million Jews had the same power to shock as the exploding trade center.

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Without diving into this in any depth, it seemed well established that the U.S. bombing of transport to various camps caused many casualties across the demographic spectrum. Which Dwight had zero concern about.

Growing up with a father who was in the trenches, was "an Iron Man of Metz, got his ass shot up, twice, "earned" a Purple Heart, and had life-long PTSD, I have a fairly keen interest in this topic. Need I add "where we are today?"

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Daniel we are now living in a time when we can be jailed for thought, for ideas, for investigating anything the MIC does not want investigated. In other words, truth is banned. Germany's outlawing investigation of the camps was the first volley. And it also tells us that there are lies there the German government does not want uncovered. for some reason I cannot fathom.

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