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Thank Hillary Supporters & the Democratic leadership for De Vos and Sessions... and of course, Trump

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I posted a brief comment on Facebook. It's brought quite a few comments and likes:

I replied to some remarks that Bernie was not a Democrat:

For all the HIllary people-- yes it screamingly obvious-- Bernie is more of Democrat, based on how he walks his talk, than most Democrats in congress, certainly more than John Corzine, (the county Dem Chair in Bucks County for those of you on this thread who are not local) who is a classic example of the kind of Democrat who has to go, who was a central part of the reason the Repugs now control the senate and the White House.

As far as the Hillary defenders who blame the current situation on people who voted for Jill Stein or stayed home, Ana Panait added a reply to the thread, saying,

"You can't blame those who voted third party because they didn't like Hillary, who should have never run. You certainly can't blame those who stayed home because they were discouraged. If a candidate is put forth and that candidate can't win over the electorate it's the candidate and the establishment's fault. Not the voters. Voters are there to be won over, not frightened into voting for a candidate they don't support. That strategy needs to change, it failed. Voters have a right to exercise their vote however they want if they want. Voters do not OWE anyone their vote. You want someone's vote as a politician, you need to earn it, she did not earn people's trust, and therefore she lost their votes."

And Bill Homans, AKA Watermelon Slim added,

"Bernie was polling 15-25% over Trump. It would have been a landslide on the scale of Nixon-McGovern, because the American People would not have had to seriously consider the possibility that Bernie was in the race to feather his own nest, as 97% of the American electorate was sure of with regard to the candidates they voted for (Johnson and Stein accounted for 3% of the vote, I voted for the latter in conscience). These were very rich people who GET OFF-- especially The Donald-- on self-aggrandizement. Bernie would have shamed Trump under the pavement, and if "Locker Room Talk" had arisen when he was the candidate, not Clinton, who had a well-publicized philandering husband, Trump might have lost by 30%. There could have been no Republican dirty trick by an FBI Director about mishandled emails. Sanders has never done anything financially to report on, and has been morally squeaky clean. WTF, those who just want to move on? The only future possible by men and women of good will is resistance, in every way that we intellectually, economically and physically can. There can be no business-as-usual with this president and his cabal. One problem is that it will have to be the Republicans themselves who actually understand that no matter how attractive the short-term political and economic benefits to them and their owner-class handlers-- uh, donors-- may be, the damage it will do to the people who need to keep buying things is such that he must be removed, legally. However, I would expect the Pence organization-- and you know there is one, he was a Governor, and he had pros working for him-- to already have formulated contingency plans for the transition. We would then at least have to have a cabinet reset. Pence is a right-wing social conservative. But Bannon, and Mnuchin, and Perry, and Pruitt, and Tillerson, and Kushner, and Friedman, would all be gone. Sessions and DeVos would stay. And this might wreak havoc with the Senate's getting anything meaningful done for several months, but the American People would have to stand in the streets and require it. Just as we're going to have to stand in the streets and require everything and ANYTHING we want, or want to save (I am 67 and receive Medicare).
If we don't restore the Presidency to someone mentally and intellectually, and by experience, fit for the job, someone who does not make American foreign policy moot by conducting it over Twitter, the damage to the future of the United States of America will continue to be done at an exponential rate. Do you have children like this one? Resist for them, and make sure they resist too. It is appropriate that our children engage in thoughtful and meaningful resistance. It is their planet too."

Anyone who says Bernie would have lost because he was a democratic socialist is also an obvious Hillary Primary supporter who bought the Clinton lies. ALL the polls showed Bernie doing a lot better than Hillary against Trump. Bernie's not being a regular Democrat was a strong asset in attracting independents. He drew 70% of Independents in Vermont. People need to wake up to the reality that the reason we have the situation we have was because of horrendous, crooked Democratic party leadership at all levels. And it can be changed. Progressives have already taken over in California and Washington. Look at Seattle where they've just taken billions from Western Union because of it's funding DAPL. Face it, Hillary primary supporters. You were duped and deceived Wake up, help take back the Democratic party from the corporatists who don't look out for our interests. It is the ONLY Way we have a chance in 2018 and 2020.

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