The interview was conducted in Italian by the Jesuit editor of a Jesuit-sponsored magazine in
At different times in his life in
Not surprisingly, some of the questions asked the pope about his experience as a Jesuit. (Digression: The Jesuit religious order in the Roman Catholic Church is known formally as the Society of Jesus. St. Ignatius was the founder.)
Disclosure: Many years ago, I was in the Jesuits for approximately eight years (1979-1987). However, for many years now, I have not been a practicing Catholic.
Here are the specific key passages from Pope Francis's interview that I want to discuss:
"Discernment is one of the things that worked inside St. Ignatius. For him it is an instrument of struggle in order to know the Lord and follow him more closely. . . . The virtue of the large and the small is magnanimity. Thanks to magnanimity, we can always look at the horizon from the position where we are. That means being able to do the little things of every day with a big heart open to God and to others. That means being able to appreciate the small things inside large horizons, those of the
"This discernment takes time. . . . Discernment in the Lord guides me in my way of governing. But I am always wary of decisions made hastily. I am always wary of the first decision, that is, the first thing that comes to my mind if I have to make a decision. This is usually the wrong thing. I have to wait and assess, looking deep into myself, taking the necessary time. The wisdom of discernment redeems the necessary ambiguity of life and helps us find the most appropriate means, which do not always coincide with what looks great and strong."