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I have offered Facebook a simple idea based on equal human rights, which will start building a bright future of humankind immediately. Facebook never responded.

Recently I have spent time in the Facebook discussion groups debating issues of my interest. We usually confronted our ideas constructively, which helped better understanding each other's views and forming objective conclusions.

Some people acted offensively and tastelessly, which destroyed the conversations. Facebook provides people with rights to vote about presentations of other people in groups in an array of values from likes to dislikes. These votes are judgments of the people made by the people. They are created to be beneficial to people.

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Positive evaluations are aimed to encourage Facebook participants to continue as they do, and negative evaluations should urge them to reconsider their actions. However, negative evaluations rarely bring improvement to confronted debaters because they rarely consider the opposite views as objective. Also, these evaluations disappear together with posts down to history, not leaving any mark on the evaluated person, so that the opinion and behaviour of participants in discussions rarely change.

If these evaluations were taken seriously, then it would improve the Facebook community. I am not claiming that the Facebook discussion forums are bad, but they may be improved. The Facebook community could improve by collecting the received evaluations. Facebook can accumulate these evaluations permanently in the account of each evaluated member.

The positive assessments should be visible only to the people being assessed, but they may show their evaluations to the public if they want. The system of the assessment would have a primary task to present people how appreciated they are in society; whether other people generally like or dislike them. Everyone would be interested to know more about what other people think of them. If people receive more positive evaluations than they send, and if the number grows every month, that will tell them they are on the right track, and it would make them feel good. They would even improve their contribution to the Facebook community further to receive more positive evaluations.

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If Facebook members receive more negative evaluations than the positive ones, the result will be presented to the public. More negatively evaluated people will have the difference between positive and negative evaluations presented in red on their pictures. Most of those who receive a large number of bad evaluations would not like it and would try to escape from it. It would be possible to achieve only by improving their opinion and behaviour on Facebook. The evaluations will teach people to respect each other and solve problems constructively. The system of evaluation would improve the Facebook community.

It is very important that people have equal right of evaluation, and that means nobody shall be able to vote more than anybody else. Equal right of people is, according to me, the only condition needed for creating a good society. It will give direct power to the people for the first time ever, and this is what will actually create a good society. A click has become a very powerful tool in the business world, bringing money to more visited web sites. Voting among the people will become an even more powerful tool that would significantly improve society.

Let each member of Facebook has a limited right to evaluate other people. Let's say everyone has the right to give a total of one negative and two positive evaluations to other members on Facebook monthly. That means everyone might choose two people they like the most and one they dislike the most in a month. Facebook may set up any combination of evaluations; ten positive evaluations and three negative ones, or give the right to people to evaluate five people the way they want. Whatever choice Facebook chooses, it will strongly contribute to the betterment of the Facebook community.

I propose these evaluations to be anonymous to escape relationship problems among people, especially when people know each other. People will receive evaluations but will never know who gave them. Then every person would try to improve their behaviour towards everyone, and everyone will be very interested in exercising their voting power. When everyone has the right to vote the total result of voting would be more objective than when privileged people do it so that the result would be better.

Facebook may also include a waiver for let's say a year in which bad evaluations would not be publically presented. The evaluations would still be visible to the people who receive them, giving them time to adapt. I am convinced that even the waivered evaluation, which does not bring any consequences, would start improving society. All people may also receive an equal credit of good evaluations, which would prevent them from falling in the red zone too fast.

Of course, some people would not care of being in the red zone, especially those who have fake accounts, but they would wear a burden of negative evaluations wherever they show up in Facebook as a warning to people that they act inappropriately. By the time they would have to improve. Otherwise, people would ignore them.

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I would not mind getting bad evaluations either. There is one thing worse than a bad evaluation, and that is knowing how to improve society with no one believing it significantly enough. Bad evaluations would bring attention to me and my idea: "Equal rights of people will solve all social problems," and people would start considering it.

Changes would not affect only the cyber world. Members of Facebook have a real life, and they would have to act appropriately in the real world as well. Otherwise, their friends, neighbours, colleges may evaluate them negatively. The system of evaluation would improve the real world, as well.

Most presidents of countries have a Facebook account. They use them to announce their politics and to acquire support from people. However, there is no way people can change an unacceptable policy the presidents provide. If Facebook accepts my proposal, it will give people the power to change a bad policy of the presidents. Namely, bad presidents will get a large number of bad evaluations from people, which will result in a significant red evaluation score. They would not like it. These evaluations would present bad presidential rates and their little chances to stay in power. Facebook may be able to pressure presidents of countries to follow the need of people more. Yes, presidents of countries may easily escape from such evaluations by closing their accounts on Facebook. But running away from the "battlefield" would negatively contribute to their political ratings for sure.

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What you're proposing is simply another "approval" mechanism for Facebook to record and act upon, and possibly even assert more control with. (The "Like" button has been exploited and abused enough already by Facebook.)

This dismisses what the central purpose of the actual discussion is.

The only way to improve discussion on any platform is to EXPAND that discussion with MORE discussion. And the only way you're going to have rights on Facebook is if Facebook were to actually respect those rights, and allow all discussion. So much for that.


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You are probably right if we talk about Facebook News. I do not have much experience there because I do not produce news and almost never comment there. I am talking about the Facebook Groups created by the Facebook users and Facebook never interfere there. Censorship comes only from the administrators of groups and they have almost never censored my contributions to discussions.

My problem lies in the fact that people are very determined by the knowledge authorities have imposed for centuries so that they do not know what to think when they hear new ideas. I gave here in OpEdNews a lot of new ideas and did not receive one comment on them. OK, I agree that Facebook might not be an ideal media for developing democracy but it is better than nothing. And if they want, they may contribute to the development of democracy a lot. I would like to discuss it here.

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My answer is really more "global" when it comes to social media. As long as people are crowding onto centralized platforms, like Facebook, who interfere with or censor selective speech, democracy can't exist on social media.

Facebook started out on a very positive premise. But it had 2 major problems, which the other major players had as well...

1) It was a centralized service, meaning everyone had to have an account on their servers. This automatically made it prone to abuse by not only those who operated it, but from government and big money interests.

2) It was built on datamining and targeted marketing. This put the selling of data and advertising above everyone's right to privacy and security.

I know people mean well when they try to come up with ideas on how to "save" the sites they've grown to depend on. The trouble is, these sites came in with the intention of selling us out in the first place. That was the business model, and that is how they make their money.

They're now in bed with government and Big Business, and not redeemable. And they want to enjoy Section 160 protection as "providers", while at the same time claim the right of censorship as "private companies". The reason why the government doesn't step in about this conflict is because it wants thing that way.

The newer varieties of social media venues are decentralized and most will likely also be encrypted, meaning the end user doesn't get uncensored, and maintains control of his/her content. The operators of these services will not be able to watch or control what the users do, absent of a proper court order, even if they wanted to, and that's the idea.

You reclaim your rights by not enabling those who are eroding your rights.

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When people have the right to express whether they like something or not and if this affects other people it is a kind of democracy. Facebook has already provided a low level of democracy. I have presented to Facebook how it can develop democracy through regulation which gives more power to people. It is supposed to improve society. It may be in the interest of some shareholders of Facebook to accept it because improving society is not a small thing and this may increase the value of Facebook. Shareholders that belong to big corporations will not like it for sure because the development of democracy will take power from them. However, regardless of whether Facebook will accept my work or not, I have offered an idea which may significantly improve democracy. Can we discuss it? If I am right and people become aware of it, some political party may accept the idea. It may win the election and the bright future of humankind may start.:-)

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For example, I believe most Americans do not like President Trump but cannot do anything against him. If democracy I have proposed is established, Trump would run away from his position in less than a month. People would punish him so badly that he would not have a choice. Is not it worth it?

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I can't express this any clearer. It doesn't matter what "improvements" or "enhancements" or "tools of democracy" are offered to you on a centralized platform that arbitrarily censors voices - nothing will change for the better.

To understand what would happen to your "voting" system, you only have to examine what happens to YouTube subscription counts. (Remember, subscribing was supposed to be an expression of approval, like your proposal is talking about.)

If YouTube doesn't like how popular you're getting, they simply sabotage the number of subscribers you have. They are doing this with thousands of channels, without discussion or disclosure of any kind. Many with these channels have to keep asking people to keep checking the subscription status and re-subscribing when they find they've been unsubscribed.

All these centralized platforms engage in similar behaviour. All sorts of voices, that threaten to destabilize the official narratives they are determined to promote, are being removed, shadow-banned, demonetized, etc.

What you're submitting to Facebook has nothing to do with what any element of Facebook actually wants. That's my point.

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"When people have the right to express whether they like something or not and if this affects other people it is a kind of democracy."

You may or may not have the right to express how you approve of something. Facebook and these other platforms have simply decided they're not going to honour that right.

A very low level of democracy, indeed.

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I disagree with you. If the value of Facebook increases thanks to democracy I have proposed the shareholders would like it. Those who belong to the corporate world would not like it even they earn more money. It is because they like power more than money and they would lose power.

I do not get this part with YouTube. Do you believe YouTube like the song "Despacito" more than other songs and this is the reason it is in the first place with 6.2 Billion views?

I do not know any platform than centralized that might work. The only problem is how to control the fairness of private companies if voting is against their interests. However, why would democracy be against their interests? They would not promote "Despacito" only if they can gain interest from it. If they don't then they would be pretty democratic.

I offer my view of democracy to Facebook mostly to get attention, to make people think about a much better democracy. Facebook may prove it if accepts it. But real democracy with power in the hands of people requires organization by a state. The state is pretty good in counting votes so the problem of cheating does not exist. However, the state is very bad in accepting new ideas. I am doing as much as I can. I would do better if people engage in this discussion. Please attack me I will be polite. J

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I mean no offense when I say this, but it appears you don't quite understand this stuff enough to understand where I'm coming from.

I've been saying all along that democracy is NOT something that appeals to the business models of Facebook, et al. Shareholders have no interest in it. They get their money and power from what they're currently doing. It's like telling a bank it needs to lower its lending rates. That has been my central point.

When I refer to YouTube subscription counts, I'm not talking about views. Views are automatically counted by YouTube's system. Subscriptions are made by viewers who click the "subscribe" button and become part of a following. Subscription counts influence search results as well as how much money can be made from a channel.

When your subscribers are being artificially reduced (by YouTube), it affects your actual voice (and therefore the level of "democracy").

I touched on the subscription counts only to illustrate what will happen with any other "approval" or "vote" system installed on the existing platforms. It was also to show that your idea is actually not anything new to social media. (I also mentioned Facebook's "Like" button as another example of something similar that has only benefited their advertising and profiling agenda.)

Centralized platforms were what started social media. They are not what will preserve it. Decentralized services (already here) are beginning to address the shortcomings of using the older ones. Encryption (also already here) will seal the deal. These are things that will actually help reclaim democracy.

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If Facebook earns money from democracy it would like it, otherwise probably not. But I do not want to talk about Facebook anymore but about the development of democracy. Can you explain how decentralized services may help reclaim democracy?

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"Can you explain how decentralized services may help reclaim democracy?"

Simple. When the service is decentralized, your conversations, your content, your activities, don't reside on someone else's servers. The user maintains control of these things.

The service can't track you, or interfere with your activities, even if it wanted to. The service actually doesn't know what you're doing at all. What you do is private, and nobody can censor you. You reclaim your rights to free speech, privacy, and security.

Democracy only exists when you can exercise these rights.

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I think you are talking about cybersecurity and not about the decentralized system. If your data cannot reside on someone else's servers, then everyone must have their own servers which may collect only one vote. Where is democracy here?

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The reply to both of those statements is "Nope". :)

And, the democracy is built in. :D

I'm predicting that it won't be long before lots of people will have to educate themselves on this, as they find themselves wanting to make the switch to decentralized stuff. A little bit of homework may be required for better understanding.

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I posted the comment again by mistake. Please delete this.

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Me thinks that you are giving Facebook too much credit as being an agent of change of any type or form. Facebook is primarily interested in advertising revenue. If, for example, it relied on subscriptions, it would be a failed business. The company is not interested in promoting any lofty ideas. The concept of democracy is something that could be discussed ad nauseum and still not find a suitable answer that appeals to everyone. Revenues and true democracy are at different ends of the spectrum. That's the likely reason your ideas have not gained any traction with the company. If your proposals were to be implemented by FB, my account would be quickly closed. FB provides a diversion for me and I expect nothing else from it. I suspect that is true for most users.

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Exactly! All positive movements are created by the people who use a platform like Facebook. It's those people who should be getting most of the credit, not the platform.

Now that these platforms are interfering with these movements of change, they deserve no credit at all.

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I have never had any problem with Facebook and do not get why do you have? I have created my own philosophy almost 30 years ago. It states that equal human rights will solve all social problem unavoidably. Two years ago I modified it a little bit to fit Facebook needs. They did not respond to me the same way you people hesitate to respond to me here. If Facebook and you understand the benefits of my proposal you would both support me.

For example you cannot do anything against President Trump right now no matter how much you despise or hate him. His policy certainly deserves punishment but the system the rich have invented does not provide it. If Facebook accepts my proposal each and every person will be able to send him a negative evaluation. If he receives 50 million negative evaluations that would say him how popular he is and what are his chances to be re-elected. He would have to improve his policy immediately taking into account the needs of people. This would attract more people to join Facebook and Facebook will earn more money. Ordinary people would not receive many evaluations so that they would not be afraid to join Facebook. Society would significantly improve. This is the idea in short.

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"I have never had any problem with Facebook..."

I hear this statement occasionally, but not as often as I used to hear it. My only comment on that would be, it would depend on whether or not you're doing anything that puts you on their radar.

Lots of people who have made any major strides against the Establishment have found their accounts interfered with in some way or another, or simply deleted, all without discussion.

When public opinion is being manipulated, there can be no "voting" system. Your idea relies on Facebook respecting that which it has demonstrated it will not.

You should probably try to talk to some of the Facebook users that are either having problems or have had their accounts wiped out. That might open your eyes a little bit to what is really going on.


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I know very well what interest corporations have. Why it is so important to you to convince me that Facebook would not accept my idea? So what? I am using every chance to convince people where the bright future of humankind is. I do not know who is going to accept it but I am positive my philosophy based on equal human rights will do it because nothing else can.

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You mistake my intention. I never said Facebook wouldn't accept it, per se. I actually described something a little more nefarious.

What I did say was:
1) they have no interest in democracy;

2) if they did adopt such a "voting" tool, they would still interfere with the process, should they feel its tabulations become a threat to their own mandate.

3) They're now in the business of manipulating public opinion. Anything suggestions they employ are only used to further that mission.

So, your idea may be taken into consideration and even put into motion, but it will still be used to subvert someone's discussion at some point, whether on your account or the accounts of others.

Again, if you don't believe this, you need more information on it to understand why it's true. Seek out the disgruntled users who can tell you first-hand what they've experienced.

Facebook is beyond irreparable.

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Probably Facebook does not consider me as a threat of any kind because I do not write News, either daily politics. I have been censored all my life so I do understand what you say about Facebook. However, I do not care. By using Facebook I am promoting my idea here but not successfully. I've posted so far six articles saying how to bring a bright future to humankind. How come nobody is interested? This is my problem:-)

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I have no problem with FB and they have none with me. I recognize FB for what it is: a commercial entity. To me you are a liberal that believes you have the best solution to one of the"ailments" of society.



I don't want to do anything against Trump as I am a staunch supporter. No, he is not perfect - far from it. But, his actions are, for the most part, beneficial to the country. To me, he is offering more for the country than any of his opponents.



I don't want to change the world. Yes, there are many things that need changing, but we will see that change on a limited basis in our lives. The primary reason is that there are too many people with different ideas and beliefs. Americans are impatient and not willing to invest the time to bring about the needed changes.



Your idea has no marketability because it does not offer any reward that is appealing to people enmass. Hence it is not appropriate for FB to even consider.

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Facebook built imperium on "I show you mine, show me yours". Facebook even invented voting about "yours and mine". And everyone who receives "like" is already rewarded. I just added how these votes may bring power to the people bringing improvement to society. So if Facebook built imperium on "I show you mine, show me yours" why would not it increase it by giving power to the people? How come it is not rewarding to people and society?

Trump will finish the destruction of America which started a long time ago so I do not get why do you support him? But anyway, if Facebook accepts my idea you would be able to support him much more than you can today. You do not like having the power of influence on society?

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Power of influence carries a lot of responsibility that I don't want. Anyone that wants that must have a huge ego. Essentially, they are saying that they are"right" and everyone else is wrong.



Because of the anonymity of the Internet, likes are basically worthless and shouldn't really have any value other than to stroke someone's ego. If I were to "like" Trump, it's for certain that other conservatives won't challenge my "like" and liberals will challenge all who also "like" Trump.



You have the audacity to basically tell me that I am wrong for supporting him. Essentially, you are cancelling out my "like.". At the end of the day, all that will matter is weather he gets re-elected. What gives validity to your theory is the number of conservatives that are weighing in on the matter.



If you really want to influence society, I believe you need a better vehicle than FB. There is way too much fake news on FB that too many people think and believe is factual. However, it is your time and effort; not mine. I don't have a dog in this issue. I am not going to expend any time or effort supporting or opposing your efforts beyond the comments I have made to date.

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So you do not participate in elections because it is too much responsibility for you? You do not want anyone to like you because you do not have an ego? If the voting is worthless because it is anonymous how would liberals know you liked Trump? I did not cancel your vote by telling you Trump is wrong, just expressed my opinion. Facebook may present to Trump what chances he has to win elections and it is worth a lot. Thank you for your advice.

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The only social media that Trump seems to rely on is Twitter, which I don't use.



I participate in elections only by voting. I haven't contributed to any candidate since the Bush era. That did give me some face time with him, which at the time was beneficial to me and my business. I went over seas after that so I had no further reason to participate in the election process in the US.



My contention is that FB voting is a waste of time and effort because of the type of forum that it is. I personally know of no one that takes FB seriously. It's a good place to "stir up some sh*t" if one desires, but that is about all. It is also a good place for me to keep up with my friends who are scattered around the world. Beyond that, I can easily live without it.

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