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Immense propaganda has accused the US government of committing 9/11. My investigation has discovered that the US government had no involvement. It exposed to me that some organization must have financed the false accusations of the US government from which it must have profited. This uncovered to me the 9/11 conspiracy did occur but not as presented by the media. The conspirators are masters of deception and this article presents how they fooled people.

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Nineteen Islamic extremists hijacked four airplanes and carried out suicide attacks on September 11, 2001 (9/11). Two of the planes were flown into the twin towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) in New York, a third plane hit the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., and the fourth plane crashed into a field in Pennsylvania. Almost 3,000 people were killed during the terrorist attacks.

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The US government conducted and reported on an investigation about the 9/11 terrorist attacks with the help of The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). The findings are presented in short here: FAQs - NIST WTC Towers Investigation. It states that the planes' impact, fire, and the heavy load of the buildings destroyed the WTC and the Pentagon. The US government accused the leader of Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, for 9/11, although they did not provide confirmatory evidence. They tried to seize Osama Bin Laden but he was killed in the attempt, which left many important questions unanswered. The investigation failed to offer a convincing answer to the basic question: why did these 19 terrorists do it?

Together, the doors opened wide for conspiracy theories. A large number of people disagree with the NIST report. They accuse the US government of destroying the WTC by planting explosive devices in it and crushing the part of the Pentagon with a missile. One of the leading organizations that accuse the government is "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth." The accusations of these organizations are mainly presented on social networks such as Facebook and YouTube. Their reports dominate the topic with thousands of documentaries trying to prove the government did it. These reports are pseudoscientific so I have to disagree with them.

If we analyze motives for the terrorist attack, the government and mainstream US media have found it in the fact that the suicidal terrorists did not like US values, freedom and democracy. Those are really shallow and miserable statements with which I strongly disagree. If they were even slightly objective, they would find a motive in the aggressive US foreign policy.

The alternative media has found the motive for the alleged government's involvement in the demolition of the WTC in the desire to get the American people to support the conquering of independent countries in the Middle East. The wars in the Middle East were indeed triggered by 9/11. However, I do not see how US government officials would be able to gain personally from the crime of aggression on these independent countries.

While reading discussions related to 9/11 on various forums, I found the most significant divide was between people who think the government did it and those who do not believe it. I would say approximately half accuse the government of 9/11 and a half don't. They fiercely argue about why 9/11 happened, who had an interest in it, and finally who did it. They were not able to find convincing answers and an explanation to which all might agree. It triggered me to see the truth about 9/11. I performed my investigation which gave conclusive answers to all of the questions regarding 9/11. I am presenting my findings here.

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The twin towers. We all saw two planes hit the twin towers. The planes' impacts critically damaged them. If the planes were twice as large, they would probably have cut the towers in two. Then the fire weakened the construction of the buildings until the huge loads of the buildings reached critical pressure, causing the crash of the towers. That was the government's explanation, with which I agree. I wrote the article A Clear Explanation Why the Twin Towers Collapsed in which I have scientifically explained how the skyscrapers crushed down. I believe it is a credible explanation.

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The alternative media on social networks have accused the US government of planting explosives, which destroyed the twin towers. Thousands of reports and documentaries tried to convince people by using suggestive explanations such as the buildings could never collapse if hit by a plane, or that the explosions that destroyed the buildings were heard by many witnesses. Some of the mainstream media broadcasted or published the accusations of the alternative ones.


I would like to know why not one of these reports asked essential questions like why anybody would try to destroy both twin towers twice at the same time when both of the attempts are extremely difficult to realize? Where exactly would the explosive devices be planted to demolish the buildings the way they went down? Who might plant the explosives? How would planting the explosives possibly go unnoticed by people who work there? Explosive experts would have to plant the explosives exactly at the place where the planes hit the buildings or else the collapse might start elsewhere. That means they would have to know in advance where the jets were going to hit the buildings. This is hard to believe even if the pilots were extremely skilled. But then if the planes hit the building exactly where the explosives were planted, why did they not go off immediately when the planes hit? What exactly might have triggered the presumed explosives and how? What would determine the timing of the explosion? None of that was questioned, analyzed, explained, or discussed, not to mention investigated, which is way too short of a serious accusation against the government.

Here I enclosed one of many very shallow documentaries that try to prove that explosive devices demolished the twin towers: WTC: How The Towers Fell. Instead, it actually proves that the collapse of both buildings was caused by the damage of the planes, fire, and the large weight of the buildings.

The slow-motion video at 38:23 is a well-documented cheat easy to debunk. The narrator states that the top of the building disappears in the explosion. But no explosion is to be seen; there is no high-speed debris flying from the place of the alleged blast. Instead, the documentary presents the implosion of the top of the building and collapsing floors. One can see eruptions of smoke and fire coming out from the building, but not as the result of explosions, but under the pressure of collapsing floors. Some people believed they heard explosions in the buildings. They were mistaken. If we throw a book on a table, it will bang. Imagine how loud the collapse of the whole floor would bang! That was what those people heard.

The upper part of the building started imploding floor by floor at the level where the plane hit the building. The construction below was rigid and resisted the collapse of nearly 10 stories (see the scale in the above-linked video) which piled on before reaching the critical weight and the kinetic energy of the load, which the construction below could not withstand. Then the weight of the building hammered down floor by floor the whole building to the foundations, almost like a free fall. Yes, the construction was sturdy but not enough to resist the power of the falling load above. The columns below bent and collapsed like nails hit by a big hammer to a hard surface. That is all one needs to understand physics.

And finally, the first building to collapse was hit second by the plane. Why? The second building was hit lower than the first one so that the load above the plane's impact of the second building was more significant than the weight above the first. The more massive pressure quickened the collapse of the building hit second. That also indicates that the collapses were not triggered by the explosion.

All talk of explosive use is devised fraud of false conspiracy creators. It proves the documentary was created on purpose to accuse the government and trick people.

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The Pentagon. No camera clearly shows the Pentagon being hit by a plane. The security cameras around the Pentagon had a speed of one snapshot per second while the plane flew at 200 meters per second so that it escaped the camera. That opened the door to conspiracy theorists claiming not a plane hit the Pentagon but a missile. Again thousands of alternative media have created fake pseudoscientific reports claiming a missile caused the Pentagon destruction. So according to these reports, the Pentagon hit the Pentagon with a missile.

These reports did not bother to question where the missing plane was if a missile hit the Pentagon? The attack on the Pentagon occurred at 9:45 AM. Hundreds of people saw the plane hitting the Pentagon and not one person saw a missile. That is the reason these reports did not bother to ask the eyewitnesses what they saw. Even the conspiracy theory stood on extremely shaky legs; not a seriously organized effort has been made to debunk these reports.

All these fake reports cannot cheat those who think with their heads and try to discover the truth on their own. Some individuals fought for the fact but got lost in a sea of fake reports. For example, Jeffrey Hill, frustrated by false statements about the destruction of the Pentagon, conducted his own research nine years after the incident. He searched the archive of various newspapers trying to find the eyewitnesses statements. He found many witnesses and interviewed them by unsolicited phone calls in which he asked them to confirm what they saw on 9/11. After that Jeffrey Hill said: "These people did not talk about hypotheticals based on the size of the hole in the Pentagon or the lack of aircraft debris; they related what they saw on 9/11." Jeffrey Hill presented the voice recordings and his analysis here: What really happened."His conclusion was: "The Pentagon was hit by a plane, end of story." He proved it.

The Pentagon actually collapsed the same way as the twin towers even though the load above the impact point was much smaller. The longer time under the fire replaced the lesser destructive power of the Pentagon weight.

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The WTC building 7. It is the core of the conspiracy theory because the supporters of conspiracy theories stated such a building never collapsed due to fire. To them, it looked like a controlled demolition, controlled demolition, controlled demolition, repeated thousands of times in thousands of reports. In such a way the collapse of WTC building 7 has become a controlled demolition to a large number of people.

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However, everything that these reports present is wrong. Actual future events proved that high-rise buildings do collapse in the fire. On May 13, 2008, the 13-story building of the Faculty of Architecture, at the Delft University of Technology, Netherlands, collapsed under fire. On 19 January 2017 the 17-story Plasco Building in Tehran, Iran, collapsed during a skyscraper fire.

Also, one could not possibly secretly plant explosive devices in either WTC building. First, planting explosives that can destroy the building requires a lot of time and it cannot pass undetected by people who work there, and second, such explosives cannot be invisible.

The collapse of WTC building 7 really looked like a controlled demolition as it was presented in media, but that does not mean it was indeed a controlled demolition. All these "deep analytic and scientific" documentaries about the collapse of building 7 have "forgotten" to present that its core collapsed 7 seconds before the rest of the building. They skipped that on purpose because this would prove that no explosive was used in the collapse of the building. Please take a look at the following documentary: 9/11 WTC 7 Demolition - Westside Highway CBS Camera Angle at 7:24.

No controlled demolition of any building ever happened in two parts with a 7-second delay. A camera never detected the explosion in building 7, nor did anybody see it even though the building was under constant supervision before the downfall.


So what happened? Building 7 was damaged by debris flying from the North WTC twin tower. It burned almost all day after being abandoned by firefighters, which was normal after the ruin of the twin towers. When firefighters abandoned the burning building its collapse was just a matter of time. The whole day fire additionally weakened the damaged steel structure of the building. The heavy load of the building destroyed the weakest columns of the core of the building, which led to its collapse.

But why did the whole building collapse? The fire did not affect the entire building. I am an architect and engineer and will try to explain it here in a way everyone can understand. The collapse of the core of the building together with the broken corner disturbed the balance of the building static causing the horizontal pressure. As a result, the whole building twisted one second before the collapse, which is visible in the documentary. The controlled demolition cannot cause this twist because controlled demolitions always collapse buildings straight down. These buildings drop, they do not twist. This twist destroyed the building.

Steel construction is strongly resistant to axial pressures but is very weak to bending moment stresses. Steel columns are too thin to keep resistance to big bending forces, especially if exposed to high temperature. They act like wooden sticks. One can easily break a stick by bending it until it snaps and that is the only way to break it. The same happens to steel columns. When the construction of building 7 twisted, the load of the building created big bending moment stress to the steel columns. They bent practically without resistance and in no time on the floor most damaged by fire. Then the building collapsed almost in free fall as we saw. Building 7 started falling in the core slightly ahead of the perimeters. That delay presents the horizontal speed of the collapsing columns under the load.

So the only convincing claim of conspiracy theorists lied in the fact that the collapse of building 7 did look like a controlled demolition; however, steel construction buildings actually could not collapse in any other way. This is the only way building 7 was able to collapse.

The US government could not destroy the WTC even in theory. President Bush acted awkwardly when he was informed about 9/11, which tells me he knew nothing about it. He would not be able to hide it if he knew. Also, I cannot even imagine how the government would find one person in the darkest corner of the CIA willing to kill thousands of fellow citizens. Planting explosives in the WTC would require the engagement of a large number of people. Also, there is no guarantee they would all keep silent. That would be entirely an impossible mission. I've found that all of the accusations against the government are incredibly shallow nonsenses leading me to conclude that we are witnessing a conspiracy against the government, innocent of the destruction 9/11.

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#FederalCrimes #FederalGrandJury - The Lawyer's Committee for 9/11 Inquiry reports that "pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries" were used at the World Trade Center on 9/11 in violation of Federal Criminal Laws #Evidence #SignThePetition.

Yes, Rep Ilhan Omar (D-MI) was right - "some people did something on 9/11". Of course, the underlying truth, which has been completely missed throughout the controversy is that the public still doesn't know exactly "who" did something on 9/11 and "what" that something was - #investigate911 - on 9/11 the three World Trade Center Towers did not come down in a manner compatible with an office fire, crashing plane, jet fuel, or terrorist attack.

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It is well explained in my article that explosives were not used. If you want to discuss some detail I can explain it to you. Lawyers are not good at understanding explosives. I agree with Ilhan Omar.

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For your information, please be advised that Gage never once said he knew exactly WHO (#materialwitnesses), only that he knew HOW, but not exactly WHY. Also, the #USAttorney in NYC has already accepted the Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry's #GrandJuryPetition reporting to the US Government their #ConclusiveEvidence that "pre-planted explosives used at the WTC" (on Page 12 Grand Jury Petition) on 9/11 AM and 9/11 PM and also #PrimaryInsideExplosives at the Pentagon - "we will comply" with the lawyers' #petition was the response of Geoffrey Berman's office, US Attorney in NYC.

Your "investigation" actually "comes up short" and covers up "the truth" about what really happened on 9/11, i.e., that "they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously - I saw this huge explosion" - Donald Trump on 9/11, and he states later in 2016, that "you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center", and "it wasn't the Iraqis" - nor was it the Muslims or Bin Forgotten. or any of the "7 countries in 5 years" - Army Gen Wesley Clark, "it was "a policy coup".

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"Over 2,500 architects and engineers prove 9/11 was an inside job." This article was written by Gage. It is not available anymore. Maybe he did not name the Government but everyone who read it has no doubt who might it be. I found NIST more competent to talk about 9/11 than Trump or Clark or lawyers.

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All three towers came down precisely like perfectly timed control demolitions - the two Twin Towers in approximately 10 seconds each, approximately 1 hour apart, and Building 7 (#NIST employee - "stand for the truth") in 6.5 seconds at 5:20 PM.

"Who" was responsible for the three demolitions has not yet been determined or investigated by our law enforcement officials or our duly elected or appointed representatives. #ExplosionData.

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No doubt for me the masterminds behind it must be the most influential people in the US because no one else could do it. They hide their power so that nobody can accuse them of the crime they commit. But I did name them in the last paragraph of the original article. I did not post it here because I cannot prove it, and that might have prevented the publishing here. Here we go:


The money would most likely lead to Jacob Rothschild unless it stops at David Rockefeller who recently died. Anyway, they have worked together at the top of the world conspiracy. Jacob Rothschild is a hidden leader of the Western world. He is the owner of corporations and big capital from this article. I do not have hard evidence against him because it is impossible to collect it without an official investigation. My accusation is based on the fact that no one else is powerful enough to do 9/11. I have been investigating Jacob Rothschild from the time NATO attacked my homeland Yugoslavia and published the findings in the article: "Jacob Rothschild is guilty for the conspiracy against humankind".

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Yes, for sure, "they hide their power" - simply astonishing that Nathan Rothschild of London and Berlin, et.al., would be the primary owners of our Federal Reserve System, a predatory banking cartel that issues our debt based money.

Of course, the words were "carefully chosen" - the title word "Federal", "is deceptive so the public would perceive it as a government entity" but the American people do not even own a single share of stock in their own central banking system.

If a Federal Grand Jury and a US Attorney follow the 9/11 money they surely would be investigating all those "persons and entities who benefited financially from the WTC demolitions" ("persons and entities" - "they" also "hide their power").

"Where are the interceptors" - LtCol Robert Bowman, USAF (ret) RIP.


Dr. Bob Bowman (Aeronautical and Nuclear Engineer) - 9/11 Explosive Evidence - Experts speak out EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Dr. Bob Bowman Lt. Col. (Aeronautical and Nuclear Engineer) This interview is some raw footage of one of the world class experts ...
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"evidence hidden and destroyed".

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Rothschilds are nowhere on the list of the richest people in the world and publically do not interfere in the political world at all, so how come they do not hide their power?

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Update: U.S. Attorney's Lips Sealed - #FederalCrimes "use of explosives at the WORLD TRADE CENTER".


9/11 Grand Jury Update: U.S. Attorney's Lips Sealed, Lawyers' Committee to File Mandamus Host Andy Steele is joined by Mick Harrison and David Meiswinkle of the Lawyers' Committee for 9/11 Inquiry to discuss the latest on the federal grand jury ...
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I do not have time to watch all of it but want to tell you what I got so far. When the rich people make a conspiracy they stand behind it as long as it is needed investing a huge amount of money. Nobody can debunk their conspiracies. That is how smart they are. When a large number of people see a conspiracy be sure that the rich people made it visible to them in order to fool them.

For example, nobody saw that President Clinton was blackmailed with the Lewinsky case in order to force them to attack Yugoslavia, even though everything about is was extremely stupid. Or the rich have supported Trump for two years by making democrats to attack him wrongfully. Now he is able to support the rich much more than before it happened.

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Excellent short and to the point video Lance. I had not seen that one before.

In the following I am not just referring to the collapse of the buildings, I am including all of the so many other things too that have to be explained away for the official story to be true. Many things in the official story cannot be explained away. It being an inside job explains everything. It being an inside job does not require an explanation of how everything was done and how they did it. All that matters with it being an inside job is the fact it was done, however it was done, they did it.

If 9/11 happened the way the official story says it did, why would there be any discrepancies. Why would there be so much uncertainty. Why would there be any contradictions, confusions, or inconsistencies in the official story. There wouldn't be. There would be nothing to doubt. A rational person reviewing the evidence can only come to one conclusion, we are being deceived. It's existence is undeniable.

Using Occam's razor, also called law of economy or law of parsimony, "plurality should not be posited without necessity." The principle gives precedence to simplicity: of two competing theories, the simpler explanation of an entity is to be preferred. The principle is also expressed as "Entities are not to be multiplied beyond necessity."

Occam's Razor is also referred to as the law of parsimony which says the scientific principle that things are usually connected or behave in the simplest or most economical way, especially with reference to alternative evolutionary pathways; the principle according to which an explanation of a thing or event is made with the fewest possible assumptions.

Applying Occam's Razor to 9/11 makes it easy to prove 9/11 was an inside job.

"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise." "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." "What good fortune for governments that the people do not think."

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When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Arthur Conan Doyle, Sr.,

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All uncertainty, contradictions, confusions, and inconsistencies were invented by the Truth movement. Why are you so in love with it? Really what connects you so much with their shallow accusations? Have you felt at first sight or you needed a time? Did you hate the government before it? What?


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"All uncertainty, contradictions, confusions, and inconsistencies were invented by the Truth movement." Why do you say that? You obviously do not even know what the MANY! "uncertainties, contradictions, confusions, and inconsistencies" are. Maybe you think 9/11 truth is all about the implosions of three buildings in NYC. FAR FROM IT!

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Even though NIST refuses to release the data upon which they drew their conclusions? Almost no one on this forum is buying what you are saying.

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I know, this is a destiny that follows me. Nobody understands a genius.

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Yes, NIST refuses to release the input data to their computer model. They said that if the computer input data were to be released, it "might jeopardize public safety". Say WHAT???

On the contrary, architects and engineers need this information in order to ensure public safety in tall buildings.

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This should be all anyone needs to see in order to understand the collapses of the twin towers. The same thing happened to WTC1. The structural failure at the impact levels resulted in thousands of tons of the combined weight of all the stories above the impact points crushing down upon the lower structures. Until you zoom in and watch the actual failure as it happens, it is a little baffling just why the collapses occurred so suddenly, and it does make one think there must have been some bomb going off to cause that.

There actually were bombs in the buildings. But they were in the form of two huge masses falling and releasing an almost unimaginable amount of kinetic energy. This is what powered the plumes you see, the ejections of steel girder assemblies, and this is what produced the huge amounts of dust from the pulverization of the lightweight concrete floors, drywall, ceiling tile, and insulation.

Here's another video showing more views of the collapse initiations, and some additional explanation.

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The first video shows perfectly at 1:20 how the exterior columns buckled towards inside after which nothing could hold the weight of the building.

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Becky and Aleksandar, please give me a comment on my comment above to Lance. Thanks.

And what do you think about this?

NIST refuses to release the input data to their computer model. They said that if the computer input data were to be released, it "might jeopardize public safety."

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Please provide a respectful reference that NIST refuses to release any data. You understand that the 9/11 Truth is not that. Besides, I know nothing about it. I read the short report only. Did not need more because I got to the same conclusion alone.

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"Section 7(d) of the National Construction Safety Team (NCST) Act exempts from disclosure 'information received by NIST in the course of investigations regarding building failures if the Director finds that the disclosure of the information might jeopardize public safety.' Indeed, the NIST Director has determined that the release of 3,370 files from the ANSYS analysis results, based on Case B temperatures might jeopardize public safety, and therefore, these files have been withheld."


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I searched the internet and found the explanation right behind the part you copied and pasted here: https://archive.org/stream/NIST_FOIA_10-037_Jan_26_2010/NIST_FOIA_10-037_Jan_26_2010/Letter_from_Newman_to_RHB_Jun_24_2010_redacted_djvu.txt


How convenient is accusing the NIST Director of hiding something when the explanation was right behind the text you posted. It is telling me you have been cheated by the 9/11 Truth or even worse, you help them cheat on people. Here we go:


The decision to withhold the data was based on the fact that the capabilities of the WTC 7 collapse initiation and global collapse models are unprecedented, in that they provide validated models that can predict collapse of typical tall buildings. If released, these models would provide a powerful tool to groups and individuals interested in simulating building collapses and devising ways to destroy buildings.

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It has become obvious that you will believe anything that supports your conclusions on the buildings and dismiss anything that doesn't.

Case in point, "If released, these models would provide a powerful tool to groups and individuals interested in simulating building collapses and devising ways to destroy buildings." That is BS. That is the excuse they use for not releasing the info. They had to come up with an excuse for not releasing it or they would have to release it. If they did release it, it would show that NIST was fraudulent. They would be admitting the fraud in their computer simulation that did not even look like the implosion of WTC7. So, they come up with an excuse that makes no sense; an excuse that is just BS. And, you believe it.

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Now I got it. Thanks. Have a nice day.

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We've responded to you all over the place. Please respond to just how 'controlled demolition' is consistent with what I posted on Sunday, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:01:27 PM.

The mechanism for the collapses of the the twin towers is obvious. Why are you ignoring the obvious?

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You have not responded to me "all over the place."

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All Three World Trade Center Towers exploding "in broad daylight" on 9/11 AM and 9/11 PM yet the official explanation remains "no explosives were involved" - "the height of stupidity", "for sure" (e.g.,"it did not collapse from explosives or or from fuel oil fires" - Shyam Sunder NIST Lead Investigator).

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Your explanation fails to account for the symmetry or rapidity of all three collapses. Although not strictly speaking physically impossible--no conservation laws were provably violated, contrary to what others have maintained--a rapid (approaching freefall) symmetrical collapse driven by asymmetrical structural damage and stochastic fires is immensely improbable in one instance, let alone three. No such phenomenon has ever been observed before or since, except in the case of explosive demolitions. That is exhibit A.

Exhibits B and C are respectively, the Keystone Cops response of air traffic control and military once it was known hijackings had taken place, and the fact that any attack at all on the Pentagon and Washington DC air space was moderately successful.

I've always been agnostic about exactly who orchestrated the attacks, but exhibits B and C pretty much require some level of government complicity.

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Well, I did explain why WYC 7 fall symmetrically. I also explained how Twin towers collapsed in another article linked to this one. Here is the simplest explanation I found on the internet: Building 7 Explained: The Tube That Crumpled

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Another burning question: for years the PhD engineers were "stumped" as to the cause of the collapse of Building 7. They delayed an official explanation in the first report and tied themselves into knots explaining it, as you have. Their initial appraisal was any conceivable mechanism had a low probability of occurrence. Yet if you followed the all day TV coverage, as I did, you may remember toward the end of business day 9/11/2001 the word was all over the street that another building was about to collapse. So if it took the PhD engineers years to figure out how such a collapse could possibly occur how did the people on the street know it was about to?

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The first report coming from engineers presented the destruction of the Twin towers very well. The problem is it was lost among thousands of fake reports. Here it is, I suggest watching from 41:00 because it explains how actually the towers collapsed. Discovery UK - How The Twin Towers Collapsed

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With all due respect, I disagree with every aspect of this article. I too have done the research.

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With all due respect, I accept your disagreement with every aspect of this article. If you want to discuss something I am available.

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Aleksandar,

Excellent analysis. You have proved your case. Please send your article to Richard Gage and Architects and Engineers. They would appreciate it. They will be able to pack up their bags and go home and enjoy the holidays.

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LOL!

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Can you comment on it?

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I've been pulled in too many directions today to read enough of the piece properly. Since I sorta promised (in the other thread) to not comment until I had actually read it, I'm going to say "not yet".

I reacted to David's comment like that simply because of his great brand of sarcasm, which always deserves a chuckle. Make no other connection, please.

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Okay, I've read it, and I'll just be honest...

None of it makes any sense, from either a scientific or logical standpoint. Even many of the things you're using as facts are totally wrong. And, you obviously have no real understanding of physics to be laying out the stuff you're saying.

There's far too much wrong with it to even attempt to dissect it for its discrepancies, so I won't be returning any arguments here. Sorry, that's the sincerest feedback I can offer.

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I fully agree.

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Richard Gage lives very well by fooling naive people and he will not leave as long as naive people exist.

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Aleksandar, were you born in Beograd but living in Asia? In 1969 my wife and I with 6 chidren travelled throughout Yugoslavia when Tito held control. We went from Rijeka, through Split, Dubrovnik and from Buddvah up through Crna Gora(Cetinje we

loved) on to Kosovo, Serbia and down through Makedonia to Greece('Ellas) and on.

We met citizens, lovely folks and generosity, slept on village piles of goat manure and made friends, sampled slivovic with Lukas and fed our children lots of baklavah.

A splendid time for us all. Thanks for being a Serbian friend.

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You are a moron!

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I can bet that you have been fooled for such a long period and do not like the truth.

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Aleksandar is certainly correct that there were no explosives involved in the destruction of any of the WTC towers. Foremost there's simply no visual, audio or physical evidence for them, not to mention the whole explosives scenario is nonsensical on numerous levels, many of which Aleksandar has pointed out.

Any time hastily formed, after-the-fact organizations are the only ones disagreeing with long-standing professional ones, it's a sure bet who's on the side of actual, verifiable truth. There are a total of zero legitimate chapters or societies of engineers, (including notably fire and demolition engineers) architects or physicists, not to mention law enforcement, that have expressed any significant disagreement with what the 9/11 Commission and NIST determined, and what was really pretty obvious to most people in the first place.

However, there's also scant evidence for Aleksandar to conclude there was some kind of nefarious corporate or elitist cabal that put the whole thing in motion. The total budget for the operation was perhaps a half million dollars, and the funding mechanisms were extensively investigated. Basically, al Qaeda provided the relatively minuscule funding, and warned before and explained afterward their motivations for the attacks.

And the whole thing makes perfect, elegant sense, especially when one understands the paranoid, supremacist mindset possessed by bin Laden and his followers.

The only question in my mind is why this sensible, easy to understand albeit sad truth regarding 9/11 is so unpalatable to so many?

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If I did not witness huge propaganda accusing the government of committing 9/11 which captured people based on nothing, I would never write this article. Somebody must have organized it and invested a huge amount of money. I asked myself who might have an interest in it and why? The article gives the answer, except I did not name the names here. Those were people who control the western world and want to conquer the rest. Those people committed aggression on Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia, Syria and attacked Venezuela, Iran, Russia, China, politically and economically. Yes, they are the most prominent people in the western world but they hide their influence and power so that we cannot connect them with the crimes.

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"Somebody must have organized it and invested a huge amount of money. I asked myself who might have an interest in it and why?"

This is where I think you and others go so fundamentally wrong. You build up the whole plan and execution to be some kind of monumentally complicated, difficult and expensive operation. But was it really? As I documented earlier, the whole thing cost a paltry half million at best. My house is almost worth that. And how difficult would it have been to organize some near simultaneous flight departures in order to strike a few desired targets during a time when nobody was on guard against such a thing? Airline crews were trained to be submissive and accommodating, with the assumption that hijackers weren't suicidal.

Any average Joe and a group of friends could have done it, but for the lack of one thing -- cold-blooded suicidal and homicidal intent fueled by religious fervor.

Your Rothschild suspicions are interesting, and perhaps understandable in light of your experience in Yugoslavia. But they lack greatly in actual evidence and/or documentation, and rely almost solely on your conjecture. We actually know who did plan 9/11, and it's anything but mere conjecture.

Of course anything's possible. You could be right. I simply prefer to follow where the best quality and largest quantity of evidence leads, as should generally everyone I would think.

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I am not talking about the financing the terrorist attack but about the propaganda which accused the US government of committing 9/11. You might not be well informed but the alternative media propagated the government guilt for 9/11 with thousands of documentaries and reports permanently. Even mainstream media had to report on it. The web sites Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth , The 9/11 Truth, and who knows how many are still active propagating nonsense about 9/11 after 18 years. They made a huge number of people believe the government did it and they still do it. Somebody needs to pay for it. Who has the interest to waste such amount of money and why? That is a question? I come to the conclusion that those who paid it must have the interest to hide their crimes by it.


My opinion is not based only on this case. This is a pattern conspirators use to cheat on people and I got it. Maybe you would be able to see the pattern by reading my article: The Conspiracy of the World Exposed


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"They made a huge number of people believe the government did it and they still do it. Somebody needs to pay for it. Who has the interest to waste such amount of money and why? That is a question? I come to the conclusion that those who paid it must have the interest to hide their crimes by it."

What makes you think that 9/11 "truth" sites would require some huge amount of funding? It's no different than any number of false rumors started on the Internet for little to no money. You're right that lots of people have bought into their seductive nonsense, but that's a function of the power of appealing to people trying to make sense in their minds of a horrific disaster, and/or to soothe their pre-held biases -- not that it took some huge amount of money for their nonsense to go 'viral'. Those people spread it themselves, voluntarily on an individual basis, for free, to millions of others.

There's countless instances of things gaining popularity within the population based not on a lot of money spent, but on some 'fascination factor' that tickles our sense of wonder.

How much did "Mini AOC" spend? (answer: nothing - already had a smart phone and Internet access, like virtually everyone) That little girl has been so effective in her ridicule of the real AOC that her family has deleted all her social media content due to death threats!

In other words, your contention that someone like a Rothschild has to spend millions and millions to advance any narrative is totally, and verifiably, false.

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9/11 Truth organizations need money for their operations. They attracted a huge number of people and for that purpose, they needed to produce a large number of events, reports, and documentaries. Without money, they would not be able to do it, especially not for 18 years.

How come politicians do not use a smartphone and get popularity? They need the money and the more money they collect the more successful they are. Organizations need the same.

Small donors would not be enough to help 9/11 Truth organizations (ask Kall) and that means the rich had to support them. I cannot talk about the amount of money but it has to be significant to achieve such a success. Look at how many people support 9/11 Truth organizations. Again, what interest the rich might have had to support such shallow accusations against the government?

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And no the public does not know who planned 9/11. No proof was presented that Bin Laden had anything to do with it. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded after which he admitted everything the torturers wanted him to admit. And even if somehow he organized the 9/11 which I do not believe, it does not explain why the rich Americans have spent a huge amount of money accusing Bush of 9/11.

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You may want to read this book. Al-Qaeda leaders KSM and Ramzi Binalshibh request an interview with an Arab reporter in order to set the record straight:

"Masterminds of Terror" is a compelling account of the planning and execution of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It is written by Al-Jazeera journalist Yosri Fouda with the help of British journalist Nick Fielding. What makes this an interesting work is that it is written by an Arab Muslim, and it essentially supports the "official" version of events espoused by the US government. With so many conspiracy theories surrounding the attacks-mostly accusing our own government of being involved-this book enforces the view that al-qaeda, and al-qaeda alone carried out the attacks. What makes this work even more interesting is the fact that Mr. Fouda met and interviewed the principal planners of the attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, and Ramzi Binalshibh.

Working in London in April 2002, Yosri Fouda was contacted by an al-qaeda representative requesting a meeting. With the first anniversary of the attacks approaching, al-qaeda wanted to air it's justifications of the "Holy Tuesday Operation." With all the conspiracy theories floating around, it seems that al-qaeda was concerned about "attempts to strip the brothers of their credit." This led to a meeting in Karachi, Pakistan between Fouda and none other than Mohammed and Binalshibh. Not only did they admit their role in the attacks, but they provided detailed information of how and why they did it. The book also goes into detail about the 19 hijackers, Osama Bin Laden, and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's extensive career in the terrorism business. While much of the information in this book has been published elsewhere, Fouda's up-close and personal acquaintance with these "Masterminds of Terror" make this an original and valuable contribution to the works about 9/11. -- commenter P.K. Ryan

Who knows? They might talk about some mysterious funder with the same name as that yummy chewy chocolate candy!

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Thanks Becky, I certainly will. But even if this is the truth and nothing but the truth it does not eliminate the possibility that somebody from the west might remind the Islam fanatics on the idea tried 7 years before when a bomb was planted in WTC. At least those people who are responsible for the protection of the US did not take enough into account that the destruction might be repeated. The rich people who produce weapons has profited from it no doubt and they had an interest in the destruction or in not preventing it. The owner of WTC has increased the insurance of WTC prior to the attack significantly. Did something leak? I will read the book to find possible inconsistencies inside. Thanks.

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"The owner of WTC has increased the insurance of WTC prior to the attack significantly."

It's a lot more complicated, and a lot less suspicious than that. Don't assume pre-meditated nefariousness when the more likely conditions are coincidence and innocence. I know one is titillating and the other is boring, but boring is unfortunately usually the case with things. That may be why we humans often find ourselves gravitating toward more eccentric explanations.

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OK, I did not accuse anybody of the Twin towers insurance, just asked a question. When I accuse nobody responses. Did you read my article The Conspiracy of the World Exposed. I have presented there how clever the conspirators are in fooling people. These are proven facts and nobody pays attention. I have scientifically defined the bright future of humankind and have no access anywhere. Conspiracy is everywhere. Mostly in the way people think. I witnessed it by my skin and I try to open people's eyes.

Besides I hope you noticed that It's a lot more complicated, and a lot less suspicious than that does not prove the innocence of the Twin towers owners.

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Aleksandar and Becky, don't know why I am even bothering to counter what you both have said" 'There were no explosives or explosions.' There is a LOT of evidence and proof of explosives used in the controlled demolitions. I am thinking neither of you even tried to find any evidence and proof. It is a very very simple search to find out. Try it.

This is not about explosives but read it and learn something:

A Very Short Simple Proof That Cannot Be Disproved. 9/11 was a False Flag Event

By the way, NIST's investigations were unscientific; so don't use NIST as a source.

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Seems as though you're trying to advance yourself, and not the actual truth. "Use me, not NIST!! What the heck do they know that I don't know better?"

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There was no need to say that. I was not saying "Use me, not NIST." If you read my article you would have known I took no credit for the elements in the proof. That credit goes to David Chandler and Architects and Engineers for 911truth. All I did was to reduce it all down to a very simple proof that can be read and understood in only a few seconds.

Use NIST if you want to but let me know if you did. NIST was NOT Scientific in investigating the collapses. I believe you, me, and Aleksander have all made it clear that we should follow the science and physics. So we should not be relying on the National Institute of Standards and Technology's (NIST's) -- a governmental agency of the US Department of Commerce -- unscientific methods.

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Instead of relying on a high school physics teacher making judgments from miles away based on YouTube videos, perhaps we should pay closer attention to what those who were actually there on the scene that day have to say:

Release date: September 23, 2007

Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).

The reasons are as follows:

1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.

2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.

3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.

4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit. [emphasis - BC]

Regards, Dan Nigro

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More quotes that make one realize that the collapse of WTC7 due mainly to uncontrolled raging and widespread fire was expected and anticipated minutes to hours ahead of time, and not that it was some sudden unexpected "controlled demolition" that caught everyone by surprise, by those who were actually there:

FDNY Chief Medical Officer Kerry Kelly - "Then we had to move because the Duane Rease, they said, wasn't safe because building seven was really roaring."

Firefighter Marcel Klaes "All morning I was watching 7 World Trade burn."

FDNY Lieutenant Robert Larocco - "We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors."

Firefighter Vincent Massa - "At this point, Seven World Trade was going heavy and they weren't letting anybody get too close. Everybody was expecting that to come down."

FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn - "...Just went you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved with flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down."

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This ain't complicated stuff Becky. It really is simple and you don't think being a high school physics teacher is good enough. Any kid who is given the simple formula and who can do simple math could show that from the start of the collapse for a significant portion of the fall, WTC7 was in absolute free fall.

All the proof is online in many places and yet neither you nor Aleksandar can face up to that fact. Even NIST finally(!) admitted fee fall. Why can't you two!

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Anyone with any common sense knows that unbiased people on the scene at the time are far better truth barometers than agenda driven after the fact miles away armchair YouTube 'experts'.

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I have read your pamphlet and do not agree with it. Building 7 collapsed a little bit slower than free fall because there was a small resistance. Structural resistance can be removed at once without controlled demolition. This was exactly what happened. You can see clearly how in a 6 minutes long video here Building 7 Explained: The Tube That Crumpled.

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"I have read your pamphlet and do not agree with it. Building 7 collapsed a little bit slower than free fall because there was a small resistance."

Then you disagree with NIST. NIST kept resisting saying WTC7 was in free fall. But, there came a point when they could no longer deny it. NIST finally admitted WTC7 was in free fall. And, NIST also said Free fall is IMPOSSIBLE in a building crumpling or collapsing naturally due to structural resistance (Shyam Sunder, NIST). In other words, Free Fall is only possible if there is NO structural resistance. Look it up.

WTC7 was falling at free fall rate of 9.8s/s.

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Correction, "9.8 m/s/s." I dropped the 'm.'

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Not even controlled demolition is a free fall because the resistance of crushing material exist. It is minimal but still. I do agree with NIST but not with your interpretation of NIST. And I know you did not spend 6 minutes watching the video I recommended to you because you would not talk nonsense.

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I did watch the video. Did you even try as I suggested to find the evidence of explosives and explosions?

Yes, at least most controlled demolitions are not at exactly free fall speed. But there has been at least one controlled demolition that WAS in absolute free fall descent, Wtc7! The controlled demolition was so precise that all of the support columns HAD to have had their support/structural resistance removed at EXACTLY the same time. Surely you have to agree that if all of the support/structural resistance is removed at precisely the same time, the building will free fall.

NIST said Wtc7 was in "freefall descent." You can read it in their Final Report.

From David Chandler:

"Gravity causes freely falling objects to increase their speed by about 32 ft/s per second. (The awkward unit, feet per second per second is commonly abbreviated ft/s2.) When an object is dropped, the speed is initially zero, but it immediately starts speeding up. After 1 second its speed will be 32 ft/s. After 2 seconds its speed will be 64 ft/s., etc. 32 ft/s2 is an approximation. The "acceleration of gravity" actually varies slightly from place to place. In New York City it is 32.159 ft/s2.

"Isaac Newton showed that the acceleration of an object is governed by its mass and the net force acting on it. (If several forces are acting at once they are combined to give a "net" force.) If the downward acceleration of a falling object equals the acceleration of gravity, then the net force is the gravitational force alone; any other forces must add up to zero."

Isaac Newton's laws of motion were not suspended on 9/11.

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If you watched the video and did not change your mind you would never do it. It does not matter to you that theory says the building can fall as it fell without explosives. It does not matter to you no explosives was found seen or heard when building 7 collapsed. At the end let me teach you something, the acceleration speed of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 in a vacuum.


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I know. That is what I said. 9.8 m/s/s.

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You said the building 7 dropped in a free fall. I sad almost in a free fall and you insisted it was. Now I am telling you that even air can resist a free fall so that slamming the building to the ground certainly did it much more.

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I ain't gonna change my mind based on some guy just saying this is what happened. Who is he anyway? Do you just believe him because it supports your story? He just says stuff asking the viewer to believe it because he says it. He talks about NIST "believing" what happened in the interior You were not inside the building to watch, neither was I nor was NIST. There were no cameras inside the building. Science is not based on "belief!"

He says the "massive exodus-skeleton is left hollowed out like a giant soda can." How the hell would he know? He wouldn't and doesn't. He doesn't know. He is only going based on what he says NIST believes. Does NIST honestly even believe that? I mean, their scientific "investigations" were Unscientific.

Who is that guy in the video anyway?

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I have a degree in architectural engineering and I knew what happened before watching his documentary. No, the building was not physically completely empty but the structure inside was destroyed after the collapse of the core of the building. After that, it was not able to carry anything. Nobody can exactly define the chaos that happened inside after the collapse of the core of the building so that his video is the most accurate information one can get. I have noticed the whole building twisted one second before the collapse. It never happens in a controlled demolition. This twist buckled the rest of the columns in the most damaged floor and after that nothing hold the building anymore.

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Aleksandar and Becky, If this does not get through to you, I don't know what will.

"WTC7 in Freefall." click here (9:30)

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Perhaps the CIA wouldnt agree with ny good buddy either. You suck me in.

Submitted on Friday, Jul 5, 2019 at 8:40:34 PM

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My favorite part of the official story of 9/11 is how they found the passport of one of the hijackers unscathed in the rubble of the tower. His body, those of his compatriots and the entire airplane they hijacked were destroyed in a fire hot enough to instantly melt steel beams, but the passport made it through intact and was found and given to officials very quickly. Simply incredible! If you believe the official story, we've got a war to sell you!

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It is irrelevant here. A lot of paper material flew out of the tower after the impact. Miracles happen.

Submitted on Friday, Jul 5, 2019 at 2:23:10 AM

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Exactly. You beat me to it.

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Really? Melted steel beams?

Would the passport, or any number of other paper products filtering down from the impact, have been somehow required to pass through the steel beam melting furnace? How did that work exactly? Sounds like a Dr. Suess Stars upon Thars contraption.

Submitted on Friday, Jul 5, 2019 at 2:30:26 AM

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Becky, you apparently don't know about the molten steel. You apparently are not able to find any of the large amount of evidence of explosives.

With all due respect, I have to say it appears that you do not know very much about 9/11.

Submitted on Tuesday, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:23:53 AM

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With all due respect, you can't seem to grasp that instances of molten whatever materials are far more likely to have been the result of high enough heat levels resulting from the fires initiated by the jet fuel, and/or blast furnace conditions caused by basement level parking garage gasoline infernos.

There are endless possibilities, all far more plausible and logical than planted explosives, for each and every supposedly odd occurrence that day. "People heard explosions". But explosives don't cause molten metal. "Must have been thermite then". But thermite doesn't cause loud explosions. "Must have been both then". Do you even understand how ridiculous and grasping at straws this all is?

Why is it seemingly so important to you that Islamic extremists didn't do the deed that day? Does this mean they are also innocent of the countless other proudly admitted to acts of murder and mayhem around the world before and after 9/11? This question is also for you, Aleksandar.

And why, if you insist on planted explosives, don't you or any "truther" ever implicate the most likely and logical party? Ever!

This is all strongly characteristic of an ulterior agenda David, and yes you too Aleksandar. What is it, exactly? That's the real and only burning question regarding this whole 9/11 nonsensical after-the-fact created 'controversy'.

Submitted on Sunday, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:23:09 AM

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"The upper part of the building started imploding floor by floor at the level where the plane hit the building. The construction below was rigid and resisted the collapse of nearly 10 stories (see the scale in the above-linked video) which piled on before reaching the critical weight and the kinetic energy of the load, which the construction below could not withstand. Then the weight of the building hammered down floor by floor the whole building to the foundations, almost like a free fall. Yes, the construction was sturdy but not enough to resist the power of the falling load above. The columns below bent and collapsed like nails hit by a big hammer to a hard surface. That is all one needs to understand physics."

I don't find this terribly convincing. Of course a forensic investigation, properly done, would settle the matter. But NIST, which was charged with the responsibility of giving an explanation for the collapse of the twin towers, precluded such an investigation. Paraphrasing the responsible official, it was said, why look for what is not there? Could that not be said of the myriad of investigations into various crimes? Let's shut them all down. Why look for what is not there?

The author ventures where NIST dared not, by attempting to explain how the floors below the alleged aircraft impact eventually gave way. Considering the meager resources of the author compared to those available to NIST, one must compliment the author for his attempt.

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Thank you Peter, I wrote a more technical report on the fall of Twin towers here A Clear Explanation Why the Twin Towers Collapsed. If you are interested in it I could explain it more.

Submitted on Friday, Jul 5, 2019 at 6:01:12 AM

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This comment has been flagged
Reason: (Ad hominem) This article attacks me and not my work. I do not want to respond to it.

Are you a government shill or are you really this stupid? I will not take the time to refute your idiocy point by point.

For the readers who want to cut through to the truth, I recommend Paul Craig Roberts. He has recently re-posted one of his many articles on the subject of 9/1 truth:

click here

Peace... Mike

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Thank You Paul Craig Roberts, for alerting us to the level of your gullibility, and thus your inversely proportional credibility.

You keep Ronnie rollin' from time to time! Might actually be a good thing, from a corpse POV.

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