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If House Speaker Nancy Pelosi trashes the Constitution by not allowing Jerold Nadler, D, NY, chair of the Judiciary Committee, to begin impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump, the Constitution will become, in effect, what George W. Bush called it in 2005 "just a go*damned piece of paper."

The crucible is now today, when it appears likely that Trump will declare a state of emergency to usurp the sole authority given to Congress to appropriate funds, all of this simply to satisfy his Captain-Ahab obsession to build a wall on the southern border.

Pelosi is not a profile in courage. She chickened out when the Democrats won back the House in 2006. She would not allow impeachment for reasons both crassly political and personal.

After the life of Casey Sheehan, peace activist Cindy Sheehan's son was squandered in Iraq early in the war and Cindy insisted that Bush explain the "noble cause" for which Casey died, then-Congressman John Conyers, D, Michigan, offered her more sympathy than many of his colleagues did. After Conyers regained his chairmanship of the House Judiciary Committee, he agreed to meet Cindy in July 2007.

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Cindy got permission to include Rev. Lennox Yearwood and me at the meeting in Conyers's office in the Rayburn Building. It turned out to be a very instructive experience, the upshot of which seems likely to re-occur today as President Donald Trump abuses the Constitution in as flagrant way as imaginable. Consortium News published my account of that meeting. It may be worth a re-read -- see below...

John Conyers Is No Martin Luther King

By Ray McGovern
July 24, 2007

What do Rep. John Conyers, D-Michigan, chair of the House Committee on the Judiciary, and President George W. Bush have in common? They both think they can dis Cindy Sheehan and count on gossip columnists like the Washington Post's Dana Milbank to trivialize a historic moment.

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Conyers, on the other hand, was dripping with pretence as he met with Sheehan, Rev. Lennox Yearwood and me Monday in his office in the Rayburn building. I have seldom been so disappointed with someone I had previously held in high esteem. And before leaving, I told him so.I'll give this to President Bush. He makes no pretence when he disses. He would not meet with Sheehan to define for her the "noble cause" for which her son Casey died or tell her why he had said it was "worth it."

Throwing salt in our wounds, he had us, and some 50 others in his anteroom arrested and taken out of action as the Capitol Police "processed" us for the next six hours.

As we began our discussion with Conyers, it was as though he thought we were "born yesterday," as Harry Truman would put it. With feigned enthusiasm he began, Let's hold a Town Hall meeting in Detroit so we can talk about impeachment. Get out my schedule; let's see, we need to hear from everyone about this.

Been there, done that, I reminded the congressman.

On May 29, 2007, Col. Ann Wright and I were among those who flew to Detroit for a highly advertised Town Hall meeting on impeachment, because we were assured that John Conyers would be there.

That Town Hall/panel discussion was arranged by the Michigan chapter of the National Lawyers Guild less than two weeks after the Detroit City Council passed a resolution, cosponsored by Conyers' wife Monica Conyers-calling for the impeachment of Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. We had hoped that Monica's clear vision and courage might be contagious.

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I had to remind the congressman that he did not show up for the Town Hall.

Apparently, that incident was of such little consequence to the congressman that he had completely forgotten about it. Small wonder, then, that he has apparently forgotten the oath he took to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Selective Alzheimers? I don't know. What was clear was that he had forgotten a whole lot.

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By failing to Impeach 'our' world-class war criminals Bush and Cheney, Pelosi's Signal Callers have no right to impeach any President.

By failing to investigate 9/11...

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Right on, Kenneth.

It doesn't matter, anyway, of course. Without the two-thirds of the Senate necessary to convict--which Pelosi and Co. most definitely do not have, and know they don't have--impeachment would amount to nothing more than grandstanding and a waste of government resources.

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Yes, "IMPEACH", and "forthwith"- "10 Impeachable Offenses"- #SignThePetition (over 1 million signatures).

Pelosi has "a wait and see" ("we have to be strategic in whatever we do"), attitude for Trump - for W Bush and Cheney (#IraqWar - "Fraudulent Justification" Article II Bush Articles of Impeachment), however, she immediately decided, when asked about "impeaching" by Diane Sawyer, replying "as I've always said impeachment is off the table" (who gave Pelosi the "right" to take "impeachment" off the table), even before she was sworn in as the new House Speaker, 110th/111th Super Democrat Majority Congress.

Conyers would "hem & haw" about starting "Impeachment Hearings" for Bush & Cheney when Rob asked him to begin the Hearings- and don't wait.

Conyers failed to hold Hearings on the 9/11 Treason Memo that was submitted to him in November, 2006 (9/11 Treason ("summarized in terms of six questions"). #PrimaFacieEvidence of #911Treason. #PrePlantedExplosives "used at the WTC" 9/11 #PentagonAttack.

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Trump Campaign Had More Than 100 Contacts With Russia-Linked Operatives: Report

These contacts included at least 28 meetings, both in person and over Skype, and involved several prominent members of Trump's inner circle.


As a friend said: "Nothing to see here, folks! Move along! Witch hunt! No smocking guns! No collusion! A presidential campaign constantly in contact with Russian operatives is totally normal! Why is fake news still talking about this? Remember the lady getting government email on her own email server? Lock her up! Or talk about the wall! Or something! Just stop talking about this!"

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Theater.

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"A half-dozen Democrats on Wednesday introduced articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, accusing him of obstruction of justice and other offenses, in a long-shot effort that stands little chance in the Republican-led House" - YouTube.


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Oh My !! That was over one year ago - things have changed "Big Time" !! The Democrats gained "a super Majority in the House" - they really need to #DrainTheSwamp starting at the very top, of course. Bi-partsian supprt "NOT NECESSARY". A "simple majority vote" in the House is all it takes - our Founding Fathers "made it so" even if the Republican led Senate does not have the Republican votes for a trial and "removal from office"

Getting "impeached by a Democrat House" would leave Trump with some noticable "blemishes" and "a lot of explaining to do" come the 2020 presidential election - #SenseOfDuty.


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Exactly.

When Nancy Pelosi announced "impeachment is off the table," Bush and Cheney were apparently calling the shots (although there may have been a layer above them issuing higher orders).

Recent events indicate (to me at least) that then President Obama was included in the order to stay in line, along with other members of The Club including former President Clinton, to support Nancy's edict.

It's obvious that most people don't believe that 'the system' works this way, but the 'thinking of the majority' doesn't mean squat.

Now this Pseudo-Eclectic Crew of Patriots is urging Pelosi to impeach Trump - in order to bring things back to 'normal'.

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Obama, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Conyers, apparently were NOT ABLE to overcome "the political capital and favor" of W Bush - they all "let him slide" and "walk away clean" and "take the country with him" (e.g. #PreEmptiveWars permitted if the president says so #2001AUMF #2003AUMF #NurembergCrimes.

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Excellent. Your characterizations of George W. Bush and Pelosi are well done.

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John Podesta is on the Board of Directors. Podesta was one of those who began the CIA/DNC Russiagate psyop. Russiagate was a contingy plan developed before the election. The article referred to is full of lies like Podcesta. Podesta should be incacerated with the rest of the neocon war profiteers/criminals.

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If she wouldn't impeach the mass murdering war criminal bush in 2006, she won't impeach trump now.


Plus, the Dems want to run against him in 2020 thinking it would be an easy win.


Just like they thought in 2016.

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An impeachment against Bush would have undoubtedly brought on deeper probes into the "Pearl Harbor" event and hence impeachment was off the table. With Trump there is the fear factor, not knowing what he has up his sleeve. For example, what was his intent upon signing the order to have military tribunals on January 1, 2019? I believe above all of the bluster of the Democrats there is fear. Haven't heard much coming from the likes of Hillary lately. Hmmm..remember, she did say, if Trump wins we'll all be wearing nooses.

Just saying

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Good point Dennis. The criminal stench rising up from DC is enough to make the worst of the underworld crime syndicate drop dead. They all have so much dirt on each other that no one dares say a word. Talk about collusion.

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Lois, I'm beginning to think in order to become powerful in our gov't, you have to have a giant-sized chunk of dirt in your past. That way you can be blackmailed into staying in line with the deep and deeper state. (I'm thinking of Skull and Bones and their purported initiation rites)

I think if you're just someone who wants to get something good going, and you happen to get elected despite the system, you'll be swiftly rendered impotent and never rise beyond 'rookie.'

Criminal stench is a good phrase.

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I hope to heck you're right about the fear, Dennis, and I hope it's big. Because it's about freakin' time somebody(thing) is afraid for their future besides 'ordinary' people.

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Remember, he did say he was going to drain the swamp and Hillary did, in fact, say they'd all be wearing nooses.


Trump did say 2019 was going to be an interesting year just sit back and enjoy the ride.


Just a curious question - does anyone know what Mattis and Sessions are up to these days?

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One more question. Why would John Kasich say John McCain was "put to death"?

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