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9/11 Truth is Going Mainstream. Now what?

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Some time around 2015, while on break at work, the lunchroom conversation drifted to the subject of the 9/11 attacks. Unlike before, when acceptance of the official story was fairly widespread and talk of controlled demolition or government plots would garner stares and sometimes outright condemnation, people have become generally more skeptical. This group seemed a little more at ease to challenge parts of the official narrative that they felt just didn't make sense to them.

One thing I always find interesting about these discussions is that those involved are usually cautious at first, out of fear of being stigmatized for their departure from the accepted narrative. As the conversation progresses however, little by little, suggestions of one participant gives "permission" for the ideas of the others. Once people in the conversation realize it is safe to voice that a particular part of the narrative seems contradicted by the evidence, the doors are thrown open and you quickly realize that the repression of ideas has only really worked in polite society.

Feeling the stress of a false story unraveling before their eyes, someone in the group will inevitably ask "Well if the official story isn't true then who did it and why?" I offered the possibility that our government was looking for a pretext to enter Iraq. Perhaps this was a bit too far. Of course, there is always that one devoted patriot who steps forth to issue shame on those who would dare to suggest our noble, freedom loving, democracy spreading government would ever lie. Becoming indignant at the anti-government comment one woman asked, "Do you really think our government would kill its own citizens? For ANY reason?"

Being used to this attack over the years, I asked her if she had ever heard of Operation Northwoods. Of course she hadn't. So I said, "Google it. There is a link to the actual documents in the national archives about it. Go to page ten if you don't feel like reading it all. But yes, they would. And they would construct elaborate plans to lie, cover it up and get away with it." rchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Operation Northwoods is my go to "red pill" for those adamant patriots, but it was far from an isolated historical incident. Anyone who has read the slightest bit on the CIA would know that they have absolutely no issue with killing American citizens, or experimenting on them, without their knowledge or consent. Many times these horrific experiments have even led to the death of those individuals.

I have a particular interest in the manner in which government controls thought and always actively listening for the tactics which suppress free thought. The examples are in abundance at times when the government is most desperate to cover something up. Most government cover ups rely on the patriotic sense of loyalty and obedience to the narrative and prey on human emotions which will override logic and evidence.

When emotions are high, like in post 9/11 America, logic can be easily diverted in favor of patriotism and respect for the victims. The problem is that over time as emotions subside people are able to separate the victims from a logical analysis of the narrative. This explains why the once marginalized "conspiracy theorist" becomes more mainstream and gives permission to the general public to question. For those pushing the official narrative these people are a serious problem.

CBS This Morning did a segment on conspiracy theories just last week to discuss how such theories start and why people gravitate to them. Psychologist Sue Varma was brought on as the consulting expert to explain what is happening in the mind of those who "go down the rabbit hole". It's no surprise that psychologists as opposed to historians are the chosen experts to discuss the topic, with the assumption already in place that the conspiracy exists only in the mind of the theorist.

The segment starts with mention of the conspiracy theories which began to swirl in the aftermath of Jefferey Epstein's alleged suicide. (tu.be/TcD5KrGH-mE) They cut away for a short video talking about other conspiracy theories, the JFK assassination, the government's alleged cover-up of UFO sightings and the "Elvis is Alive" conspiracy. This was of course to start off with an appropriate tone, one of mocking or shaming independent thinking.

After a good laugh among the cast, host Tony Dokoupil frames the question to Varma asking how it is that in an age where we have so much information at our fingertips, we could seek out information that supports our "wildest imaginations". Varma who treats patients with anxiety issues and worked with patients after 9/11, seems immensely qualified and genuinely caring as she talks about why people gravitate towards these theories. She focuses on their feelings of helplessness and trauma and the human instinct to find a solution to their unresolved situation by "figuring out" why an incident occurs. She suggests that when people feel like they know why something happened they feel empowered and prepared should something else happen. With these parameters she casts the conspiracy theorist as a struggling, distraught, helpless victim clamoring to find logic in illogical acts.

This theme was repeated by many main stream tv and print sources in the aftermath of Epsteins unbelievable suicide. In an article by Conservative Ben Shapiro he also gives a similar reasoning stating the exodus from the top down narrative to the internet.

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He describes how Epstein's death could have simply been mundane and a situation resulting from a long mismanaged prison but then says that the public's skepticism is normal. He does not mention public mistrust in government, but cites their mistrust in mainstream media. And once they go to social media, conspiracy theories grow out of control. Shapiro says, "Some of that certainly has to do with social media, where small pockets of fringe opinion can merge together to create larger pockets of fringe opinion."

Varma and Shapiro both reference the role of social media in spreading and reinforcing theories but neither bothers to mention the elephant in the room, our corrupt government.

Varma does mention the public is looking for "trusted sources" for their information and they have more trust in the information they get from peers, even if that information is misleading than they have in "official" sources. She even uses the words "top down" and says that people are looking for "a more democratic approach". Without realizing it Varma is describing how social media, through its back and forth group dynamic, brainstorming and challenging one another's theories etc results in democratizing the narrative. Rather than accepting the "official" story/propaganda which is a top down approach, people are going back to group discussion, free thought and rational deduction. And examination of the evidence to decide what they have concluded is the truth.

Of course the mainstream media and talking heads scoff and scorn and attempt to marginalize these freethinkers and say that looking to our peers for feedback is dangerous and reinforces confirmation bias. I can attest to the long debates among any given community about a particular conspiracy narrative, that absolutely do not agree with one another or seek out agreement. They argue fiercely over their differing analysis in an attempt to thrash out the truth.

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We have to stop letting those in authority gas light the public by calling us conspiracy theorists. We have to maintain our collective skepticism and continue to seek the truth rather than accept what is dictated to us my corporate media and the government.

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In 2013 Professor Lance Dehaven-Smith in a peer-reviewed book published by the University of Texas Press showed that the term "conspiracy theory" was developed by the CIA as a means of undercutting critics of the Warren Commission's report that President Kennedy was killed by Oswald. The use of this term was heavily promoted in the media by the CIA.


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Thank you for adding this. I had always heard that the CIA invented this term to mitigate those voices raising obvious issues with their narrative but I never looked into the details because I did believe in light of everyhting else I knew about the CIA I assumed it was true.


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This term actually originates in a CIA document written on April 1, 1967 titled: "Countering Criticism of the Warren Report." It was officially addressed to "chiefs, certain stations and bases," though it was certainly more widely distributed. Recipients were instructed to "destroy when no longer needed.":

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The lengthy document was reviewed for declassification in1976 in response to a "Freedom Of Information" request, but it was not declassified until 1992. Among other things, Its stated purpose was to encourage the use of "propaganda assets" "to provide material for countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists."

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Thank.you so muchnfor posting this information here. I had heard the CIA created the term to dispel criticism, investigations or to thwart whistleblowers but no one who told me that knew the source. Of course given their track record I believed it but it is so much better when there is documentation to cite.


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Different people have different paths to 9/11 truth, and we can help people along the path they're already on, and above all, welcome them warmly into a community of bright, independent thinkers.

I'm a physicist, so the smoking gun for me was free-fall acceleration, and the buildings not toppling to the side. For an engineer, the most compelling thing might be that no steel-frame buidling has collapsed due to fire before or since 9/11. For some frequent fliers, they may have noticed that all our information about what happened in those planes came from purported cell phone calls--but they've tried to use their cell phone in an airplane and they know that even today, cell phones don't work above about 5-10,000 feet; and in 2001, cell phones didn't work in airplanes at all. My girlfriend first entertained the reality of 9/11 truth after seeing the movie, "Vice", about Dick Cheney.

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Let those of us who have found the truth a long while ago be understanding. Truth is socially established, even for those of us who call ourselves independent thinkers. Creating a supportive community for those with unconventional political realities (especially newcomers) should b e a top priority for us.

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I like your strategic thinking.

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Now is the time for us to be thinking about the next step. When the mainstream flips it will be sudden. Once a quorum believes in 9/11 truth, there will be an avalanche of new "skepticism" by people who don't really think of themselves as skeptics at all. They just don't want to be left out, or thought stupid, or gullible.

When this moment arrives, let's have a strategy prepared. Maybe it's, "truth and reconciliation", or "amnesty for Cheney and Rumsfeld". Maybe it's a blanket pardon in exchange for a full investigation.

Remember that a lot of powerful people are going to be implicated, and if we demand their heads, the resistance of the establishment will be so much the harder.

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Yes, of course, no "nineteen hijackers" from Iraq ("the people who knocked these buildings down" - W Bush/Blair) or from anywhere else in the world could have ever "pulled off" 9/11 - such hijackers would never have the time" to come back at exactly 5:20 PM that afternoon and "pull down" Building 7 so "perfectly" quickly in only 6.5 seconds and the Twin Towers "pulled down" so "perfectly" quickly as well in approximately 10 seconds each in the morning that day - yes, 9/11 was "pre-planted explosives" that had destroyed all three Towers - #OverwhelmingEvidence. Yes, 9/11 Treason MEMO "submitted" to incoming House Judiciary Chairman Democrat Rep John Conyers - #PRIMAFACIE evidence of high "treason" on 9/11. Conyers "failed" to "hold a Congressional Hearing" in his House Judiciary Committee regarding the 9/11 treason "cited" in the MEMO he was "in possession of" or enter "in his possession" this 9/11 Treason Memo officially into the Congressional Record "on the House Floor", or to "report" receiving a Memo of 9/11 treason to "a federal judge" as "required by federal law" or to congress assembled "for appropriate action" and naming W Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld - #ExecutiveSummary "II.. "The controlled demolition, therefore, had to be the work of insiders".

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I was with you until the amnesty for Cheney and Rumsfeld. These treasonous troglodytes deserve no mercy as far as I'm concerned. They are the dregs of humanity. They need to experience the inside of a prison cell along with Bush and all the rest who are implicated. This country has let too many criminals of this caliber off in the past. Maybe if they faced serious consequences, we wouldn't be in this mess.

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Dear Lois, I feel exactly the way you do. Short of any torture, the monsters should be locked away forever...and NOT at a Club Med.

I once dreamed of bringing back the old-fashioned stocks, and one big giant public/media display of the lying thieves that killed so many innocents. Death by hurled tomatoes sounded fair, til I considered the tomatoes.

At the same time, Josh made a salient point. Get really harsh and the push-back from the establishment whores will increase. New laws, more violence, etc.

If something so justified as the arrest of the criminal leaders and minions actually happened, my slip in the Suggestion Box would read:

Strip each of them of ALL property (including current living quarters (to be replaced with a 12x18 Agenda 2030 residence;

ALL monetary assets and investments worth over $5K total;

ALL publicly funded income, services; security details; fuel abd vehicle maintenance; and all insurances, limiting total income to $4K monthly, with the associated Income Tax rate;

Confiscate ALL foreign real estate holdings anywhere in the world;

A global Special Bulletin News Report with their pictures and list of crimes, to be aired every 4 hrs.; 24/7 for 2 weeks.

Now, they can go back home, apply for welfare and shop at the Dollar Tree.

:) :) :)

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Janet, I love your sentence for these miscreants. It would be the worst thing that could happen to them. Deflating their false sense of importance would let them know they are no better than anyone else.

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Josh,

Thank you for your comments and input. You make a good point that we all come to these conclusions in a different way but I think that a few things need to be put in place to change our foreign policy. First we need to stand up loud and out in front of corporate media. The corporate media is nothing more now than a giant psyop against the American people. We need to build a new infastructure of journalism which is one reason I love OpEd and what Rob and all the contributors here are doing. Second we need to have a massive political revolution and make it an absolute requirement of candidates for any office that they be completely detached from corporate influence and money. We are starting to see this among a few Democrats and we need to raise thw bar. These politicians need to absolutely protect whistleblowers and freedom of the press. We needs to fight vehemently for fair elections a d stop cheating. Voter suppression, gerrymandering and machines that are easily manipulates need to go. The people have to get out of the trance and get back to holding our government accountable. If any politician, at ANY level, including the President of the United States is found to have violated the Constitution or committed war crimes they need to be put on trial.

Thanks again for your input,

Take care,

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The people won't have it. The crimes committed were too egregious and continue to inflict misery. Lobaczewski opposed the death penalty for such people, because the information they have is so valuable and, like cockroaches in a kitchen, for the one you catch there are a thousand hiding. His advice was stick them in a golden cage and encourage them to brag. We saw what happened to Epstein, though. He was suicided before he could sing for us. The first step needs to be to obtain truly secure facilities out of reach of the corrupt government/shadow government, i.e., down the line a bit in a revolution or civil war. Until then, every one of them outted will be dead shortly whether we like it or not.

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There are so many inconsistencies in the fairy tale told us about the 9/11 mass murders that one must actually question the ability of our nation's leaders in keeping us safe as the main weapon they have used to defuse any real discussion on the matter is the Presstitute Media Propagandist machine that is rewarded dearly for being the mouthpiece of brainwashing the public.

Without any formal investigation of those mass murders, the thinking public has pretty much narrowed it to the point where it was a planned exercise with Dick Cheney at the controls. Another key figure in the 9/11 murders was Rabbi Dov Zakheim, dual Israel/USA citizen, who was brought in as Comptroller. He arranged for the lease of several 767 tankers. Zakheim came to the Comptroller position from SPC, a company that had developed a device that could take over control of up to 8 aircraft remotely from the ground. (It is my opinion Building 7 housed the remote unit, thus had to "come down"). Zakheim left public office shortly after 9/11 to take a position with Booze-Allen where a client of his would be the bin Laden family. He also left the government with $400,000,000 unaccounted for.

There have been so many inconsistencies like, the complete disappearance of our military during the 2-3 hour invasion taking place and then General Myers who was in charge on an interim basis was promoted to full leader after being incompetent.

I have yet to see a photo of the plane that supposedly struck the Pentagon and the one in Shanksville was obliterated to fragments, something I do not believe a mere crash would do.

One could go on and on, but the true story will most likely never be revealed. We must remain knowing it was an inside job, but the perpetrators will never pay their just dues.

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Everyone knows that people living in caves have more superior capabilities than the USA Military and Intelligence!


I have read somewhere that building 7 contained one of a kind records to be used against Israel. Not sure where I read that.


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I have some new info if you are interested. I just did some extensive research. email me here if you want to hear it. I am not permitted to print it on this website.

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Thanks for pulling these thoughts together, Michele, and thanks to Lois for your comment.

Inspired by Charles Eisenstein, I'm toying with the idea that maybe we can get beyond the mentality of good and evil, crime and punishment. Thich writes, "I am the twelve-year-old girl, refugee on a small boat, who throws herself into the ocean after being raped by a sea pirate, and I am the pirate, my heart not yet capable of seeing and loving."

We look at the enormity of the crimes of Dick Cheney or Jeffrey Epstein and we feel, "This is not a human. This is a monster. I can have nothing in common with a Cheney or an Epstein." How could we feel otherwise? And yet there is a small voice inside, reminding me that this "othering" which I experience about the power-elite-sociopaths is exactly the core of their disease. The inability to empathize. The refusal to recognize the humanity of some people.

Maybe hating the haters is not a path to salvation. Maybe hate can only breed hate. If we pit our power against Cheney's and Epstein's, certain it is that we don't stand a chance. Creating a world in which no one is an enemy seems naive and fantastical, but maybe it's the only realistic path toward the world we wish to create.

What do you think?

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That is the way of Buddhism and I think many other religions. It has a lot to be said for it. For one thing, when we feel highly emotional--enraged--we become temporarily blinded. Psychopaths know this and use it to their own advantage. One example I can think of is Marie Antoinette who seems mostly to have been guilty of naivety, but took the brunt of the anger, while others of her class made themselves less visible. Andrey Lobaczewski who wrote Political Ponerology recommended taking a clinical view as a biologist would of vampire bats. They can't help being what they are. But we must protect ourselves.

One thing that history teaches us, though, is that once these people gain enough power over us, the natural result that we can't help is rage. We can try to avoid it, but we must be aware that at some point we have to get out of the way.

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Because of all the complexities of politics and logic, it may not always be useful or accurate to divide everyone into only two categories of saints and sinners. I decided a while back that, if the truth of 9-11 finally became known by the public at large, by that time the truth would be spun in a way that excused the perpetrators, saying that they were just "patriots" doing what they thought was necessary to "save the US and Western Civilization" or something like that. And, in fact, a Cheney probably really sees himself in that way, a version of "the ends justify the means" thinking. And, if one really goes down *that* rabbit hole, who can say that in 100 years from now, the Cheneys will not actually turn out to be "saints" rather than "sinners". I don't think that's at all likely, but we can't really see the future. Not very encouraging for those who feel they know all the answers to today's problems, but I'm trying to take a long view.

On the other hand, it's more difficult to imagine an Epstein as a "saint"; but, then again, if he really was a CIA or Mossad agent or asset, maybe he somehow saw himself and his activities in a positive light.

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Josh,

Eisenstein and Thich are two of many voices saying similar things. The concept, while possible Truth, brings much internal spiritual struggle, indeed. Jung approached it in his shadow work. (we each contain it all) I'm nominally familiar with it.

~~K-12 Catholic education. Inside every classroom was a poster of a suffering child from whatever nation was experiencing strife. The admirable purpose was to teach us youngsters compassion and generosity; an awareness of 'the other'.

Thoughout those years we were also taught that God was all-loving, all-merciful, and the ultimate prayer respondant to people everywhere.

I am 11 years old. Pondering the dichotomy of the suffering child and a kind and loving God, I zoned out. Don't know how long I was gone...trying to make sense of it.

Then it dawned on my child's mind: the only way it makes sense is if I am also that child in Ethiopia, bloated with flies on my face. But the comfortable me at my desk didn't realize it. Likewise, the suffering child was enjoying my comfort at the same time, but he didn't know it.

This reconciliation satisfied me and life went on. I pretty much held on to that view, but not comfortably. The suffering still hurts my heart.

Applying this conclusion to the perpetrators of such suffering is much harder. Maybe in the end, in eternity, we will learn that those like Cheney were volunteer soul teachers for the slumbering masses. Maybe they came to Earth knowing that suffering was a blink of an eye and death is not real. Maybe they is us and us is them.

But at our grade level...well, I think we need to wake up to the enormous lie and injustice and find our moment of Mad as Hell and Not taking it Anymore. What if that is the lesson of the Psychopath Angels...who are only us in disguise?

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Josh,


Thank you for generating such a thoughtful discussion. You seem like a very empathetic person however I must wholeheartedly disagree on one point. When you say if we pit our power against the Epsteins and the Cheneys we don't stand a chance, I understand how it is easy to believe that when they seem to commit their crimes with complete immunity, never seeing justice, but the reasons for this are not predetermined by fate but rather, are the result of calculated manipulation.


Since the dawn of humanity there have been the majority who focus on living and surviving through cooperation and collectivism and the minority who strive to create a hierarchy wherein they are at the top and have more benefits, wealth and power by funneling it from the bottom up. Jeffery Epstein and Dick Cheney are single individuals who lacking their wealth and power are no different in capability than you or I. But the powerful, the greedy, the lazy and immoral have an instinct, like animals who are born knowing how to hunt. They prey upon others and strive for an ever higher position on the ladder. Other predators recognize their own kind and will compete for a higher position in the hierarchy but they all look at us as prey.


Hate is a misnomer. They possess a sociopathy which is the total absence of empathy. Because we can not divorce ourselves from empathy we are always at a disadvantage when it comes to calculation and ruthlessness. Sociopaths realize this and will even use our empathy for them to manipulate us. The power structures that exist which have been built over thousands of years, funneling wealth and resources from the bottom up to them seems if course to put them out of our reach. But we must remember as historian Howard Zinn points out, they only have what we have given them through our collective obedience. They ensure our obedience through a variety of tactics and we as the collective have for thousands of years, like children not been aware of these mechanisms. They supress us by keeping us ignorant. The lower classes were intentionally kept from literacy and education. They have built systems to ensure our economic and democratic disenfranchisement.


But a revolution is happening. We are no longer the ignorant masses. We are communicating like a herd of elk becoming vigilant and protecting one another from the predator. But they still have their infrastructure. We have to form a new level if awareness of each and every one of the mechanisms they use to control us and dismantle them. Bottom Up news as opposed to dictated media narratives is a good srart. We have to make people realize that we have to stop engaging in warfare against similarly disenfranchised people of other countries at the behest of the elite.


As for hate breeding hate, I don't have much capacity for hate. I am too empathetic and yet rational. I look at the removal of these individuals, these predators, as an act with no more malice than a white blood cell fighting an infection. Humanity is an organism. People like Cheney and Epstein are a malignant cnacer that if not removed will destroy us and along with it our precious earth. Bolsinaro's sociopathic destruction of the Amazon rainforest in pursuit if profit is just another example ofnhow this cancer is leading to our mutual destruction.


We need to call these things what they are. We need to throw off the societal stigma and call Reagan a war criminal.and traitor, supporter and funder of death squads which tortured and murdered people, even children. We need to call Obama what he was. A neoliberal regime change advocate who bombed and murdered the people of Syria and Lybia. We must demand leaders like Tulsi and Bernie who.reject these power structures.


We have to focus on public education to make sure the next generation is not indoctrinated like we were bynthe lies of the elites.


Thank you, and everyone here, for being a part of this discussion .


Take care,


Michele

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The purpose of any conspiracy is to put people on the wrong track. The conspirators are very successful in it.

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Oh gosh, Thank you for making that effort to listen to that drivel on the TV! If I tried that, the poor TV wouldn't survive. And what a great analysis!

It looks like the Epstein "suicide" was one bridge too far if people in the US now feel freer to discuss conspiracies. Whoever it was must have been so desperate that they would commit this act in the face of heavy scrutiny and then try to rely on damage control to shut down unauthorized analyses.

As another commenter somewhere else (I think it was Zero Hedge) noted last week, "when they piss on your back, you can go along and pretend it is just raining like they say, but when they piss in your face, you can't ignore it."

If anyone tries psychoanalyzing you for not believing the official narrative, you can turn the tables on them with a psychoanalysis of why people believe palpable nonsense when it comes from an official source. The Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth ran a 21-part series on this a few years back. Here is the first.

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Very good Patricia. I was thinking of linking to the same paper/article that you did. It was written by Fran Shure and titled, "Why Do Good People Become Silent -- Or Worse -- About 9/11." It goes right along with Michelle's article. I have talked to Fran Shure two or three times. She is one of about three that began Colorado for 9/11TRUTH. I think they changed the name.

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As reported in the Corriere della Sera. Italy's ßoldest and most widely read newspaper, Nov 30, 2007 (Not reported in the American Media):

A Former Italian President has gone public on 9/11, telling that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies. Rough translation: "[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 9/11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad.... in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan." - Francesco Cossiga, ex-president Italy.

(The former Italian President was one official who exposed the existence of "Operation Gladio." Cossiga's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of "Operation Gladio" in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the false flag attacks and bombings in Western Europe in the 60's-80's were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus -- CIA.)

Regarding "Operation Gladio": "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security." - Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra, in sworn testimony, March 2000.

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If you ask yourself a simple question what interest CIA and Mosad might have had to make 9/11 you would never write this no matter who said this before. The conspiracy is much greater than you can imagine. It started with forcing people to accept knowledge all their lives so that people are not able to perform critical thinking at all. It is what actually creates the so-called sheep mentality of people and massive paranoia.

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