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Accident or Engineering? Who or What Is Responsible for the Coronavirus Pandemic?

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So: Kim Iversen, the progressive reporter-cum-supermodel narrator of a video Scott Baker, managing editor of opednews.com, posted several days ago, titled Iranian, Russian and Chinese officials claim COVID-19 Is A Biological Weapon,

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suggests that the United States may have engineered the novel coronavirus, with the implication that US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was involved in the decision, perhaps out of personal pique, but also in the implementation of a more murderous foreign policy than has so far been used, to say nothing of espoused, by the Trump Administration.

However, on March 14 I encountered a not long retired CDC consultant who, demanding anonymity, suggested that not America but China had engineered Type L, the aggressive and lethal strain of the novel coronavirus that caused most of the death and rapid contagion in China during the first wave of infection.

He further suggested that the reason China would want to engineer such a viral weapon of mass destruction might be that rather than using it as a weapon of war against its international competitor the United States, those in power in China believe that their nation is so overpopulated that culling of the population will be necessary eventually, one way or another. However, he adduced no specific evidence to prove his claim.

Our government has long been one that develops covert and deceptive strategies and the hardware to effect those strategies.

Iversen says that the reason to unleash a virus in Iran would be to bring the country to a state of desperation so that Iranians would overthrow their government. Regime change (without any information as to what would succeed the government by mullahs) without shedding American blood.

The foreign Minister of Iran, Javad Zarif, tweeted on March 7 that the US, in the person of Donald Trump, is killing Iranians by its economic sanctions which drain Iran of needed medical resources. He said, "The world can no longer be silent as US economic terrorism is supplanted by its medical terrorism."

Iversen suggests that the US bioweapons program, which officially existed from 1943 to 1969, which mass-produced 6 various biological agents including anthrax and botulism, and did research on weaponization of over 20 other biological agents including smallpox, typhus and yellow fever, has not actually stopped.

She says that not only the weaponizing of anti-human agents was researched, but also of agents which would damage agricultural resources, including diseases affecting rice production, as well as a wide variety of anti-animal diseases, including foot-in-mouth disease, plus a list of 11 animal diseases none of which I had ever heard of.

After listing all these very bad things that the US has researched, or brought to the point of production for use, she declares that the answer to the question of whether or not the US has USED bioweapons "is a resounding YES!" However, she does not name any specific use of any of these agents.

She continues by asserting that bioweapons are hard to control, but that America is okay with collateral damage from its warmaking. That, y'all, is the most truly proven thing she says in the whole video, as proven by the bombing that killed millions of Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians in our Indochina war of the 1960s and 70s (and the poisoning of Southeast Asian land and water with Agent Orange and other chemical agents), and much more recently by our occasional destruction of wedding parties, school buses full of children, and other gatherings of innocent Iraqi and Afghani civilians.

Errors, such actions are always called.

She even claims that those who may have unleashed this virus may "feel a little better morally about it" because mostly it affects senior citizens, not children or healthy adults.

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RING THE ALARUM BELL! BLOW WIND, COME WRACK!
AT LEAST WE'LL DIE WITH HARNESS ON OUR BACK!
MacBeth V.v. 50-51

Macbeth was guilty, yet he was ready to fight till the end. We are not guilty, except that we have allowed the real murderers to do geopolitically what they want to. WE MUST FIGHT NOW, not against the Chinese, who had this unleashed on them-- if it was not just a coincidence, and as a phenomenologist and Jungian I don't believe in coincidences-- but against those Americans running things that actually can sleep at night knowing what they know about Fort Detrick and what was there as recently as August of 2019. WE MUST FIGHT THEM.

It's all moving at light speed. Contact me, if you know, as I do, that anything like America as we 70-somethings knew it is running out of time.

Leonard Crow Dog prophesied to me and a few others at the campfire in the Black Hills in 1978: he said, "The human beings have a few more years to keep on tearing Mother Earth, or She will take Herself back from us." That was 42 years ago. I would like to know what he meant by "a few more years" in the face of Chernobyl, the Gulf Oil Spill and Fukushima.

We must fight. Soon. I know my father (who fought the Nazis in two Navies, British then American), my uncles, my aunt and mother would say so. If we can do nothing else, in a technologically dominant age, WE MUST MAKE OUR WOLF CRY!

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I lived in China for ten years between 2003-2015 and know firsthand of its population conundrum, and its rising geriatric numbers cannot be supported by its youth. The rest of the world also faces like-dire situation, with all UN nations having signed Agenda 2030 and its sustainable development policies; one which suggests a world population of less than one billion.

The world will surpass 8 billion in 2023 and the need to slow this tide by any means is sought. Yoichi Shimatsu has written a series of articles on www.rense.com about how this is a bio-weapon created from an illegally exumed Inuit who died of the 1918 Flu Pandemic. That HIV and TB was introduced into the Coronavirus genome to increase replication and organ specific targeting.

Other articles I've read go along the lines that have been what the general public thinks, is exotic culinary habits of some wealthy Chinese is to blame. The local bat population around central-China does not carry this virus, is the reason why this accusation does not seem credible. Yet if an unseasonably warm Autumn had coastal bats that do have the virus, migrated west by the lure of over-ripened fruit left on trees in orchards by farmers who had a bumper harvest. Their fornicating with local bats to then transfer the virus; and the tons of fecal matter they released over aquatic farms adjacent to these orchards, infecting the fish. Which are then sold in the local markets, to infect humans, is far more plausible explanation.

The lackidaisical way world governments were to respond to this virus makes me think it was intentionally released to reduce world population.

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Event 201, organized by the Johns Hopkins Centre for Health Security in October 2019, three months before this crisis, bears uncanny similarities to reality. It was backed and attended by big names in the US and its military. Read more here and here.

Staunch believers in coincidence would reject the notion this 'simulation' has anything do with the nightmare the world is going through now. But its eerie prescience is hard to dismiss without further investigation, considering similar such simulations and drills have preceded real life events in the US.

The notion China would have engineered such a bioweapon to cull its own population is laughable. With a little over 3,000 deaths, it seems to have failed abjectly. The US, on the other hand, has demonstrated its readiness to use weapons of mass destruction (Hiroshima, Nagasaki) and absorb collateral damage to itself (9/11) in the pursuit of a ruthless imperial agenda drafted in hell and sanctified in the neocon black mass of the Project for the New American Century.

There should be a reckoning, hopefully in our lifetime.

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When I met the retired CDC consultant, and he breached the idea of China having engineered the virus, I was polite, but not persuaded. The unnamed Taiwanese virologist's study of multiple strains-- 5-- in the US, and transfer of the COVID-19 virus to China as early as September of last year, allowing it time to spread from one or more asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic individuals without causing immediate suspicion, seems far more credible.

And, not to be Pollyannish, I can still entertain the possibility (thought it's getting to be more remote) that the pandemic is merely the catastrophic result of someone getting a contaminated animal to eat and becoming infected. However, that explanation does not account for there being 5 strains in America, and furthermore, Iran and Italy have been hit by more deadly strains than, say, South Korea, or anywhere else, and those two nations were not included in the Taiwanese researcher's study (Taiwan ran a TV news program on February,27, (click here to access video (Chinese), from an article posted by Fred Gransville, titled

China's Coronavirus, A Shocking Update. Did the Virus Originate in the US?


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Ramani, I don't hesitate to find your discussion to be subtly correct. IMHO, the US stands condemned, Pence? CIA? even our christian SofS.

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Empires fall due to multiple causes that feed upon one another. It's hard to say which particular cause was the one. Personally, I believe 9/11 was the tipping point that marked the beginning of the end for the American empire. Others with a longer grasp of modern history might say it was the Korean War or the Vietnam War or the first Iraq War. Yet others might look inward and say it was Clinton or Bush or Obama or Trump.

We are a bunch of deliberately blinded people trying to describe an elephant by touch. The only thing we can be sure of is there is an elephant. Maybe not even that in this world of lies, deceptions, devious plots and counterplots...

Regardless, most of us can agree the jig is up for the American empire. It has been up since at least the turn of this century. The powers behind know it better than us. They are getting increasingly frantic to catch the falling knife. The game of strip poker they have launched, doubling the stakes at each setback to their impossible ambitions, is nearing an end. Guess who is going to be naked first...

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Yes, Ramani, I tried to reach around "what they called *elephant*s leg"' it was a tree. probably banyan.

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The citizen's of Wuhan don't believe the official government record, yet you accept them. This virus is still in the early stages of its spread and will continue in coming years with more mutated strains.

This is the most recent Yochi Shimatsu article and he asserts the UK and Israel also have a hand in its creation. click here

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China's official number is the only one we have, Stan. Everything else is speculation or wild guess. I have no great faith in government statistics. China might have made an art of fudging the numbers. But how many believe American, British, European, Indian or any other country's official statistics are not massaged to fit pre-determined policies?

Qualitatively though, I find the first hand accounts of Chinese citizens from Wuhan and elsewhere far more credible than the government's. There is an inevitable element of fake videos and twitter feeds injected by the usual culprits, the accomplished gwailou disinformation masters. Even allowing for this, a lot more unpleasantness is happening in China than what we are told.

Yet the fact remains if the number of official deaths is a lie, then so also is the number of infections. For both legitimate and illegitimate reasons. Since every country is doing it, the proportions might even out across the global web of deception we are being fed.

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Ah, Ramani, your dicussion causes me to recall the period I worked for the Army at Fort Belvoir, Va, as a cost accountant. As long as I fudged the budgetary figures I moved quickly up the civil service grade. I resigned.

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There is, however, one probable cause which might lead back to China. What if Wuhan was an acceptable collateral to tame Hong Kong? Let that rattle around your head for a while.

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Good minds with too much time and too little information can produce worthless, even misleading commentary. Mercilessly through the miracle of digital communication, we must all suffer much that should never have been written and certainly isn't worth time spent reading. I've certainly come to a firm conclusion who is responsible for this catastrophe. But what difference does it make unless we create actionable alternatives to the way things are done now, including new paradigms for the fundamental social and economic frameworks which define and delimit all possible outcomes in our world? It seems that some of the ingenuity which seems in abundance in assigning blame might be applied to imagining and implementing the mechanisms which will avoid the seemingly endless parade of crises and catastrophes. Simply put: It doesn't have to be this way. The current arrangement benefits a tiny minority. The lives for the rest of the 99.99% can only improve with deep reform and systemic change. Let's get to work.

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AAh yes, John, your illuminating words speak truth. Let's get about it.

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Couldn't agree with you more on the need to build a different world, John. My only reservation is with the word 'reform'. There is no reforming our way out of this. We have reached a point where only a foundational upheaval of the present order can make way for a fresh start. I don't mean just the US. The rot has spread across the world.

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'fraid so!

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Two examples of deep reform: 1) Nationalizing the Fed thus reasserting permanent control of the currency by the government; 2) rewriting all laws which set the framework establishing and running corporations, making them accountable, democratic, socially responsible. We could be initiating these right now, while formulating the grand architecture for a new economic system. In fact, pushing for these and other DEEP REFORMS paves the way for a systemic revolution of scale. If they succeed, we're heading in the right direction. If they fail, we have created the conditions for assertive insurrection.

It's nice to fantasize about big leaps into futuristic utopias but that doesn't comport with the realities on the ground. We need a long vision, of course, but we can also be looking for short leaps forward -- not cosmetic but substantive leaps -- to begin to create at least some momentum. Any honest assessment of the state of things right now recognizes WE ARE MAKING NO PROGRESS AT ALL, and may in fact be going backwards.

When I say 'let's get started', I'd like to think we're capable of having serious discussions about where the vulnerabilities are in the current regime of neoliberal corporate totalitarianism, how those can be approached and exploited. Nitpicking over terms is not quite what I had in mind.

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What's with these negative waves so early in the morning for? :)

Hearing Trump mention the release of non-violent prisoners on tape is a huge start forward, in answer to a press question?

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Negative is my middle name. That's what the 'D' stands for.

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Dstand sounds Flemich for when could miss at a tough 3 cushion shot in a tight rope game.

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We must definitely find out where this came from. That was my first thought when heard of it. But I don't want to hear about the investigation 40 hours a day on the TV. Give a team 6 months and get it done.

It was weird back in January that this thought popped into my head: the 7 last plaques come from the CIA. Am only saying the thought went through my mind. Thinking about it, the CIA would do worse things than "my lord." :)

I'm wondering about the lies that the demons deceive the kings of the earth with?

2020 being 40 years since Lennon's death at age 40, born in 1940 has had an interesting ring to me in my mind. 60 years since the sixties, Number 9 is 62. ;) Blessed are those who make the 45 days of Daniel 12:12. ;)


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In an article at OpEdNews I read about the various haplotypes of this coronavirus from several sources, including the unnamed Taiwanese virologist's work, and how there were five strains, and how only in the US could all five strains be found.

If health authorities trying to "flatten the curve" were doing their best, they would be determining what strains of the coronavirus are implicated in the most virulent outbreaks. There has been, for instance, no differentiated mention of the strains responsible for positive-testing cases or of deaths in Italy or Spain, the two European countries hardest-hit by the Covid-19-causing virus, nor for the various clusters of infection in the US, not even by Dr. Anthony Fauci or Dr. Deborah Birx, who of all the principals in this ordeal are performing most heroically.
"The News" has presented the pandemic as a disease for which there is one, only one, virus responsible for all cases and deaths.

Why was Fort Detrick, one of the American locations in which bioweapons were for years tested and developed, closed suddenly last fall on the grounds that the location was (suddenly) no longer a sufficient facility to contain pathogens? What pathogens did the place still contain when it was closed?
Were they destroyed by clinical process, onsite, or were they removed to some other as yet undisclosed location?

What incentive might those responsible for the continued existence of engineered viral haplotypes have to not destroy them, but maintain them secretly in some other undisclosed location? And now that the virus has struck almost the entire planet, what incentive do such people still have in not coming forward, declaring their officially protected ("we were just following orders") responsibility for the research leading to the various strains?

Is it possible that such operatives think that if the virus could be in some way differently engineered and re-introduced to the population, it could be more efficiently directed against those people who were politically meant to be damaged?

Lay people like myself, without medical expertise, don't have the first-hand CLASSIFIED epidemiological evidence to present proof of where and when the Covid-19 virus was developed, nor how and when (if it was the case) it was introduced to the Chinese market where it was declared to have first infected humans. All we can do is continue to ask the questions that authorities do not ask, or have stopped asking.

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