J.B.: Yes.
R.K.: Now, he
describes a different kind of business and it's about small. It's about local.
What are your thoughts along those lines?
J.B.: Yeah. I think that there is a large sense of public
opinion and public policy opinion and business opinion that if we move towards
different models of doing business, whether it's smaller businesses, or it's
cooperative, or it's benefit corporations, that if we do that, then that's
going to solve the problem.
The difficulty I have with that" I
mean, while I agree with that, it's how do we get from here to there? And the only way I can see for getting from
here to there is through public policy.
I think as long as we have public policy that allows for it,
incentivizes big business, we're going to get big business. That's where the investment dollar is, that's
where the money is going to go.
So we would have to have some quite
radical shift in public policy which in turn leads me to conclude that it's
naïve to believe that this can entirely come simply from business people
deciding, well, we want to operate on a smaller basis. It has to be a broad coordinated public
policy which gets right back to my initial point that it has to come through
pressuring, working with, taking over our democratic institutions so that we
create new forms for being, for doing business.
The market and business forms are
not created by nature. They're created by laws and laws are created by
governments.
R.K.: Okay. At that point we're back to where we started
our conversation. So I think it's a good
place to end, too. Thank you so much, I
really appreciate this.
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