Kall: okay, well you’re talking about the extreme orthodox...
Hedges: no, I'm talking about Netanyahu, and Olmert, and Livni and Ahoud Barack - they have a messianic vision of their role in the Middle East and it is one that they are going to remove the scourge of human impediments towards a powerful Israel - one that can't be challenged. And they are as misguided as the messianic Muslims who make up Hamas and their messianic allies in the White House who believe they talk to Jesus
Kall: do they represent the majority in Israel?
Hedges: no. They don't represent the majority in the same way that George Bush never represented the majority of Americans, you know from that aspect. You know, Israel, but that's another discussion, but the Israeli political system is so fragmented that the right has essentially always been in power in coalitions, because the only two things they want are the expansion of settlements and a hard-line military policy. And as long as you give them that they'll go along with everything else. So that's part of the confusion of Israeli politics that have even in the labor dominated coalitions, allowed the right wing to carry out these policies of seizing Palestinian land and tightening the screws on Palestinians
Kall: so to wrap things up, any advice to listeners or readers on what they can do to make a difference?
Hedges: divestment – moving in divestment campaigns. I think that we have - I mean we carry a lot of clout, and I think that divestment is big - I mean getting institutions to divest holdings within Israel. I think that anyway we can begin to punish Israel or create pressure on the Israeli government to moderate their policies is probably the most effective tactic at this point
Kall: okay. Thank you so much
Hedges: thanks for having me -
Kall: Rob Kall, bottom-up radio show, 1360 WNJC. Good night.
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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect,
connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media.
He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity scheduled for release May 22, 2019
He's given talks and workshops to Fortune
500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered
first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and
Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful
people on his Bottom Up Radio Show,
and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and
opinion sites, OpEdNews.com
more detailed bio:
Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project.