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NSA 30 Year Veteran, Whistleblower William Binney on Corrupt NSA-- the Inside Story-- Transcript

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It needs to be out in the open where everybody knows what is being done to them in terms of laws and in terms of the constitution.  There is a process to change  the constitution.  If they want to amend the fourth amendment, the first amendment, the fifth amendment, they can do that but they have to get it passed through congress then ratified by the states.  That's in the constitution as a way to do that.

R.K.: No, no, no, Obama goes to Justice Roberts and says hey set up these secret courts so they don't have to tell anybody about it and then the judges rubber stamp everything and it's all cool.  What are you talking about?  Amending the constitution?

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W.B.: I'm talking about doing it in a democratic way.  If we're going to be a democracy, that's the way to do it.

R.K.: Now, yesterday you said that what our government is doing is setting up a totalitarian state and if we don't stand up and speak against it we are going to get exactly that.  Now you have mentioned this in other interviews before.  Talk about why you say that what is going on is characteristic of a totalitarian state.  How is what NSA is doing similar to a totalitarian state?

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W.B.: Okay well, my background is analyzing the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries so those were totalitarian states.  Certainly dictatorials, very finite numbers of people in power directing everything in the country.  

And so it was very familiar to me what the KGB and the MVD did in the Soviet Union  and what the East German Stasi and what other countries in Europe did, although to a lesser degree, what other European communist countries were doing and that was to find out and pull together all kinds of information on everybody in their country; for example in East Germany they had population about seventeen million and I will bet about two million were informants on the other fifteen million and they had a very large number of Stasi agents, and they were all trying to pull together all kinds of information that they possibly could on everybody in the country so if there was a problem with anyone that they perceived to be a problem they would take care of it and in the case of KGB they would either brutalize them or send them to gulags or put them in a mental institution.  

You know those were the procedures they used.  But the core of that, the core capability that allowed them to do that was assembling knowledge about the population and that is exactly what NSA is doing about the population of the United States and they're not keeping it just here, they're also spreading it around the world, to all the democracies around the world and that's also inspired all the non-democracies to figure, well that's the way to do business.  

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That's the way we have to do to it to collect information on every citizen in our country so it's really being spread worldwide and being a very destructive influence on how countries and governments operate.  

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites, OpEdNews.com

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 


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