Rob: You've
got this way that traumatizing narcissists produces someone who goes into a
relationship with another traumatizing narcissist as a subjugated object, or
you have a victim who becomes another traumatizing narcissist. And I would
imagine that the person who goes in as a child of a traumatizing narcissist,
who has grown up as an object without the ability to express and experience
subjectivity, that person empowers and strengthens the traumatizing narcissist
who he or she goes into a relationship with.
DS:
Absolutely, that becomes the thing that they're good at. Is making that other
person feel good, and they'll get into that relationship on that basis. But
it's unsustainable in the long run, unless the subjugated person, in their own
way. Oh I'm not sure what that noise is. Okay I may be running out of battery
on this phone. And what I'm going to do is call in on my other line. I'll be
right back.
Rob: Put it on
hold and we'll wait for you. Go ahead.
DS: Okay,
thanks.
Rob: Alright
so he's hanging up and he's going to call back in one more time. So, this book
is incredibly powerful. And I strongly recommend you take a look at it. It's
written as a part of a series of books for psychoanalysts and people in
psychoanalytical training, so there's a lot of jargon that is aimed at
psychoanalysts. That's okay. It is digestible. I guess I have a little more
experience with that because I have a degree in counseling. But this is just so,
I kept thinking, oh, I've read enough of this book to get an idea of what's
going on, and then I just delve into the next chapter and it is just powerful
stuff. I was, hello.
DS: Hi Rob,
I'm back.
Rob: I was
giving your book accolades.
DS: Thank you,
appreciate that.
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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect,
connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media.
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He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity
He's given talks and workshops to Fortune
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first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and
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more detailed bio:
Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, (more...)
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