Tyler: Yes, he'd gotten in a physical altercation with another prisoner.
Scheer: He can't be in the play at that time.
Scheer: You get a lot of this human interaction. However, I -- Not however, because of that I defy anyone to watch this film and still think of people in our - This massive incarcerated population that we have in this country, the largest in the world, certainly, by far as proportional to our population, and think of them as the other. Not think of them as themselves, their own family, their own people. I think that is the great achievement of this film. That it forces you to recognize the humanity of people that we have systematically attempted to put out of sight, out of mind, and deny their humanity. I think it's a singularly important artistic achievement. I want to thank you once again for doing this and to encourage people to check it out; it's really profound. Thank you.
Tyler: Thank you, Robert for having me here.
Scheer: This is Robert Scheer, another edition of Scheer Intelligence where the intelligence is supplied by my guests, in this case, Gary Tyler, 41 and a half years in prison, great director of an important play. Maybe one of the most important plays that you can see and his film version. My producers have been, Joshua Scheer and Rebecca Mooney. Technical engineers are Mario Diaz and Cat Yore, here at USC where they've generously supplied the studio, Sebastian Grubar. See you next week for another edition of Scheer Intelligence.