Paul Craig Roberts: I know it is.
Rob Kall: "with lunacy!
Paul Craig Roberts: I know" I know it is, but the production function that's the basis of this theory, is the work of two Nobel Laureates.
Rob Kall: Who?
Paul Craig Roberts: Joseph Stieglitz, and Robert Solar. So" the authority of the profession is behind the idiocy. So when you go to challenge it, most people, most economists will say "well, this can't be right, because look at all these Nobel Laureates who gave us this. They must be right!' So they don't even bother to think. And so, nobody is addressing these issues. And of course ever since the Bush" the George Bush crowd got in there, they" completely destroyed the Environmental Protection Agency, you know, the Forest Service, everything else, by sticking in these corporate polluters in charge of it. So we had that BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, simply because Cheney & Bush stuck in polluters instead of regulators. And then they used that Correx to hide the oil, which has caused the most incredible deformations in sea life. And" and nobody knows even exactly what the effect of all that stuff in the Gulf of Mexico means in the long run. And so even the kinds of protections that we had which were minimal, they've now been cast aside. And if you talk to most of the politicians, they think that environmental protection is just some kind of a Communist way to prevent corporations from making money. So you're right"
Rob Kall: That wasn't always the case. At one point Conservatives were actually" ecologists as well.
Paul Craig Roberts: [at same time] No. Well very few of them. [laughing]