I.H.: I think, I thin narcissistic personality disorder is different, the psychology is different, the cognition is different,
R.K.: No I mean the energy that they apply to maintaining their sense of superiority.
I.H.: I think it is different because that they put all of their energy, it's almost I'd say, it's not just the will to succeed, it's the inability to fail. It's a compulsive and again with any personality disorder what really marks them out is the rigidity that there is no other option so you or I may have a goal and we put all of our energy into something but it begins to, as we begin to fail or we develop a different interest or so forth, but with narcissism, it's that rigid, this is the only path in life and there is no choice.
R.K.: Okay. Now, you say narcissists exert a disproportionate influence on society because the number of characteristics of narcissistic personality disorder mean they are more likely to reach positions of authority than those with normal psychology. Can you talk about that?