Rob: Oh, I go there. That's terri--okay. Keep going.
Frederick: Let's see. They own a chain of--
Rob: I don't stay there but I've been there for conferences.
Frederick: I've been there as well. There used to be a cable television studio in there. Well, the last time I was there, you walk into the hotel lobby and it's full of Koreans and that alone might not be surprising but you go into the newsstands, concession stand at the hotel, just like any other, and you find The New York Times, The Daily News and The Unification News, which is the churches monthly newspaper. But yes, vast real estate business and media holdings, Japanese restaurants, health food stores, all kinds of stuff; fishing fleets, Gloucester in Bayou La Batre, Alabama; they basically have taken over a good deal of the shrimping industry in the Gulf. It's enormous.
Rob: It's amazing. And how have they influenced our culture? How have they influenced, as you said, the development of the American Conservative Movement since the 60s?
Frederick: Well, I mentioned Richard Viguerie in my quote and people don't know who is. He was really the inventor of political direct mail long before there was the internet and online fund-raising took over. We still get pieces of mail--people in the political world, but the story goes after the Berry Goldwater campaign for President in 1964, Viguerie personally went down to the Congress where they kept records of these things, and hand-wrote out every contributor to the Goldwater campaign, and that was the basis of his direct mail fundraising list. His first and major client was something called the Korean Cultural Freedom Foundation, which was a joint project. It's hard to say whether there was really difference to make it joint, but between the Unification Church of Sun Myung Moon and the Korean Central Intelligence Agency. So, they were building a constituency in the United States via direct mail for the Korean part of the Cold War at the time.
The Korean Cultural Freedom Foundation did a lot of propaganda in the United States, but they also had broadcasting operations run by the KCIA out of South Korea that beamed into China and North Korea and into Vietnam, and of course the Vietnam War was going big at the time. So, Viguerie was right there working with the Moon organization from their earliest days in the United States, and building his business off of that. That's just Viguerie. It's hard for people to appreciate just how important Viguerie was.
Rob: I know Viguerie was one of the main movers and shakers and funders--not just direct by donation, but by using the power of direct mail and the technologies and the tools and resources that he had to raise money for the Conservative Movement for decades.