And the president has a legal right as commander-in-chief to do what he has done. They do not, I would say, have either an obligation or a moral basis for accepting such orders rather than resigning and doing something else, taking with them the documents that will show the realities of this situation.
AMY GOODMAN: Dan Ellsberg, we want to thank you for being with us. We're going to do part two, post it online at Democracynow.org. Dan Ellsberg in Pentagon Papers whistleblower, author of The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner. I'm Amy Goodman. This is Democracy Now! Thanks so much for joining us.
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