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Van Summers (@VanSummers) cheeps back, "Screw this commie country, I'm moving to Canada."


Problem: Canada has what might best be described as socialized health care. Way back in 1947, Tommy Douglas, a social-democratic provincial leader of the prairie province of Saskatchewan, introduced the first public hospital insurance program in Canada. That plan was expanded nationwide in 1957 in the face of militant opposition from the Canadian Medical Association. In 1962, Saskatchewan broadened the program to cover all medical costs, making health care in that province fully funded for all by the government. A conservative Canadian national government expanded the program in Saskatchewan nationwide in 1966. Doctors fees were set buy the provinces, but doctors responded by adding on private charges called "extra billing."  That practice was banned in 1984, giving Canada the basic system it has to this day.  It's quality health care at half the cost in terms of share of GDP (10%) that it is in the US (20%)


Canada's Medicare-for-all program is not socialist in the way that the British National Health program is socialist--with UK hospitals owned by the government and UK doctors receiving state salaries. Doctors in Canada still are private entrepreneurs, but their fees for service are set by the provincial governments. Hospitals can also be private, but patients only pay a nominal charge for treatment in them. Their costs and their reimbursements are negotiated by governments.


Do these conservatives who want to flee to Canada to escape "socialist" Obamacare even know any of this?


It's hard to believe they wouldn't. Fox TV, the main "news"  source for the ignorant and willfully ignorant, has run plenty of scare stories about a non-existent "wave" of Canadians allegedly pouring across the border to the good-ol' capitalist USA to get medical treatment they are allegedly denied in Canada. On investigation, most of these stories fall apart very quickly. But at least the viewers ought to get the picture that Canadians have socialized medical care.


Obamacare isn't remotely socialist, meanwhile. Its crucial flaw, indeed, is precisely that it leaves the whole funding of American medical care in the hands of the private insurance industry (it caters shamelessly to most of the industries in the US medical-industrial complex, but especially to the insurance industry). Canadians, meanwhile, effectively did away with private health insurance in their country when they introduced their Medicare program for all Canadians.


Meanwhile, these clowns who want to flee to Canada may be in for a rude surprise if they do more than yack on Twitter and actually try to flee Obamacare. Canada doesn't provide its free medical care to outsiders, and it's very hard on would-be immigrants who might want to get a free ride on their health care system. If you go to Canada and get sick or injured, you will get treated, but you'll also get a hefty bill if you're not Canadian. You should hope you have some kind of private US medical insurance to handle the bill or it could really set you back.


I had some friends in their late 50s who tried to immigrate to Canada from Alaska a few years ago. They both had lifetime insurance from the woman's former job as a state worker in Alaska, but even so, they were denied landed immigrant status in Canada, and were told it was because the immigration authorities feared they would end up using (abusing) Canada's health care system anyhow.


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