Rob: That's quite an obituary there.
Frederick: Yeah, I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but in his case it's hard to find good things to say.
Rob: Well, how old was he?
Frederick: He was 92.
Rob: Ninety-two, that's almost a century of being a pox upon humanity, there. Now, how did he have such an affect upon the United States? I know the Unity Church owned the Washington Times. Is it still owned--
Frederick: The Unification Church, yeah.
Rob: The Unification Church. Do they still own it?
Frederick: They do. There have been some re-shapings of their business and media empire. It's in a couple of pieces now, and there's a lot of infighting going on among Moon Singer associates and members of his family and it's all pretty ugly. But yes, Washington Times is still part of the empire.