BB: Okay. They didn't the change through in time for the print out of the book which is why it says that on the book but it's actually wrong. Okay go ahead.
Rob: No problem. And welcome to the Rob Kall Bottom-Up radio show WNJC 1360AM sponsored. I just stopped affiliating with so I'm not doing that anymore. One more time.
Rob: And welcome to the Rob Kall Bottom-Up radio show sponsored by opednews.com. My guest tonight is Bonnie Burstow. She's the author of Psychiatry and the Business of Madness. She's associate professor at the Ontario Institute for Studies and Education at the University of Toronto, Canada. And she's also the author of Radical Feminist Therapy and Psychiatry Disrupted. Welcome to the show Bonnie, great to have you here.
BB: Nice to be here, Rob.
Rob: I've done a number of interviews that, with people who take, and shall I say a scant, view of psychiatry. But one of the things I really like about what you have to say is your solutions are really bottom-up solutions.
BB: And to me that's absolutely essential. You know as I understand it, I mean, psychiatry no doubt in my mind has done way more harm over its jurisdiction than anyone else with control over the mad. But the history of people taking control over the so-called mad has been one tyranny after another. So getting rid of this particular tyranny does not solve anything if we are replacing it with another tyranny. And it only solves so much if we're replacing it with benign overlord-ship. You know. The entire direction of putting things in the hands of the state, as opposed to empowering the community to solve problems together, I think is grossly misleading. It's a gross misstep and that we can't have any kind of good solution unless we attend to what kind of society we're living in and unless services for people in difficulty stem right from that community. And by that I don't mean the extension of hospitals, which is what they're currently calling community.
Rob: Now you use the word mad I think.
BB: Yes. Well once upon a time, people now mentally ill were called mad. Mad was a, was the earlier word. It's the same people except grown exponentially because psychiatry is a growth market and a growth industry beyond anything we've ever seen in this area before.
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