SUSI SNYDER: "Don't Bank on the Bomb" works with the financial sector to stop investment in nuclear weapon-producing companies. And we had a great announcement from Amalgamated Bank here in New York on the day of the signing, that said, "Hey, we don't have any investment in nuclear weapons producers, because we find it illegitimate." And that's the first U.S. bank that we know of that's made such an announcement. This is one of the things that's going to have a big impact on making sure that the production of weapons, of these nuclear weapons, stops.
AMY GOODMAN: And when you talk about "we," who were the forces behind this nuclear ban?
SUSI SNYDER: Well, it's been a coalition of nongovernmental organizations through the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons; governments -- it's been about 120 governments that have really been emphatic about this; and the International Committee of the Red Cross and Red Crescent, who have talked about the humanitarian consequences of this weapon. And that's what we need to keep our focus on.
AMY GOODMAN: And what about the fact this is happening when President Trump is threatening to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, as well as threatening the country of North Korea?
SUSI SNYDER: That's deplorable, to be perfectly honest. That type of activity is what this treaty seeks to end. And the Iran deal is -- it's a good deal. It stops the Iranian nuclear program. The activities of North Korea should -- there should have been a negotiation directly with North Korea to make a similar deal, and we missed that opportunity. There needs to be direct negotiations so that we don't get into war.
AMY GOODMAN: I want to thank you, Susi Snyder, for joining us, nuclear disarmament program manager for the group PAX, based in the Netherlands, author of the report "Don't Bank on Bomb."
And that does it for our broadcast. Democracy Now! co-host Juan Gonza'lez will be speaking next Friday, September 29th, in Kansas City. I'll be speaking that night, as well, in Winnipeg, Canada. On Saturday, September 30th, Juan is speaking at University of Maryland, College Park; I'll be speaking in Halifax, Nova Scotia, in Canada. Then, Sunday, October 11th [sic], I'll be speaking at the University of Guelph in Guelph -- that is, October 1st, in Ontario; that same night, at Ryerson University in Toronto. You can check our website for details.
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