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R.K.: You're a tech guy, you understand computers and you understand technology.  How about Hayden?  What was he like?  What is he like in terms of, I would think that in order to lead such a tech heavy, tech dependent organization you have really got to have your head around technology.  What was Hayden like?

W.B.: He was a good administrative type person with a history background, I think he's a major in history.  He wasn't a technician so you know, he could I guess think of a historical relationships and things like that and how people relate so I guess he was a people-oriented kind of manager but he was not a technology manager.  

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R.K.: So did he do email, did do basic stuff?

W.B.: I don't -

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R.K.: I've heard some stories that some of these guys just were like Luddites, they totally avoided all technology.

W.B.: I think he basically depended on other people to inform him on this kind of information.  In other words, he was taking advice from the established management structure.  

R.K.: So okay.

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W.B.: I mean that's the way I guess it went.  I don't know.  He never came down to talk to the technology people in my area.

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites, OpEdNews.com

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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