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The Selling Out of the Middle Class is No Accident: Interview transcript part 1, with Donald Bartlett and James Steele

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[If you're in the middle of the show, just coming in, I'm interviewing Donald Barlett and James Steele, the authors of an incredible book, "Betrayal of the American Dream']


I have to say gentlemen, that this book really does a superb job of going through, with evidence and explanations, just how the government and the elected officials in this country, have betrayed. It's not a matter of an accident. It's not a mistake. They have literally sold out the American middle class. Would you agree that that [inaudible 27:17] 


Donald Barlett: That's a really good way of phasing it. Because that's exactly what has happened. They have sold out the middle class in this country.


Rob Kall: And now..


Donald Barlett: And where's it going to lead. Well, you can probably pretty well imagine that in fifteen, twenty years from now..


Rob Kall: Well last year I interviewed Arianna Huffington. She wrote a book called "Third World America." and described how we're well on our way there. And I think your book, perhaps without using that term, also describes all the different ways that American workers and the middle class are just having the American Dream stolen out from under them.


James Steele:    Rob, you're so right on this. [Jim Steele here]  In fact it's interesting you would say what you just did, because there's actually a quote in the book from a manager of a plant in a little town in Missouri. These are the kinds of towns where people are socially conservative, and you know they're not radical or rabble-rousers in any way. But I never forget the interview with her, because she was one and they had a little plant there that had a couple of hundred women in it. And the women did a lot of piece work for greeting cards, or Hallmark cards and they would like put ribbons on these things. And one day the jobs are shipped to China. Well, here was a woman who'd worked there fifteen plus years, and was kind of a mid level manager, and she was making around $34 thousand a year, a whopping salary. The women on the production line were like in the mid $20s (thousands), you know,another case of those great high paid American work force that's driving jobs offshore. I'm being facetious, of course! But anyway, at the end of the interview this woman, just as solid and good as she could be in every way. She said, "what"' and this quote is in the book. She said, "what is this country going to be like in a few years? I mean are we going to be living in huts, like they do in Africa or elsewhere?" You know, no running water, none of the facilities that you normally associate with a developed society. And we encountered variations of that story over and over again across the country. People know what's going on. They're very upset. They see the trajectory is down and they cannot understand why Washington, why the folks who run this country aren't paying attention to them because they can kind of see where we're going. If the folks in Washington can't or won't face them. Folks do know what's happening.   


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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project.

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