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Tim Berners-Lee tells us his radical new plan to get serious about the internet.

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“The intent is world domination,” Berners-Lee says with a wry smile. The British-born scientist is known for his dry sense of humor. But in this case, he is not joking.

This week, Berners-Lee will launch, Inrupt, a startup that he has been building, in stealth mode, for the past nine months. Backed by Glasswing Ventures, its mission is to turbocharge a broader movement afoot, among developers around the world, to decentralize the web and take back power from the forces that have profited from centralizing it. In other words, it’s game on for Facebook, Google, Amazon.

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As I've been saying, these types of movements were inevitable. The ISPs and the big players should have known this as well, yet they are currently attempting to build a complete control model based on everything staying "centralized". In their model, everyone's data and activity needs to pass through "them", and they can arbitrarily do what they want with it all.

Decentralization is something I've been touching on for a while. In the ideal version of this model, no single entity is storing and distributing the information. This means security of data, privacy, tracking-free activity, and no censorship.

At this point, I don't know if Berners-Lee's "Solid" networking qualifies as being completely decentralized. On first glance, it appears to me that Solid is being built on a "cloud" storage model, where the users need to have membership accounts to operate within it. This presents an important argument that MUST be considered, before celebrating that a solution has been created...

Does Solid need the users to store all their bytes in their cloud, and do all our activity from inside the cloud, essentially turning it into a "Facebook in the cloud"? If so, should we trust Solid not to eventually betray us, in exactly the same way as Google, Facebook, and our providers are doing right now?

We need to consider that in a truly decentralized network, there would be no need to store anything on or operate from anywhere else but their own units. Transmissions would be DIRECT to their destinations, without a central body to "distribute" them. That would be the way the USERS could control what goes out to whom and who has access to it, and so on. Any intervening party that is not merely providing a "conduit" for these transmissions would technically be a "centralizing" component, with all the implications we're acquainted with.

There is, of course, the possibility that Berners-Lee has put much more thought into Solid than outlined in the article. Perhaps he's intending to build this service with blockchain technology, similar to Bitcoin. That would certainly moot some of my questions about it.

There are a number of projects going on right now, with the intention of decentralizing our internet activity, social networking, and taking back the control we never should have lost. One such effort I've been linking to...

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Submitted on Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:15:20 PM

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Reply to Devil's Advocate:

Valuable thoughts "for further thought." Thanks, DA

Submitted on Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:26:50 PM

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In addition to Solid, and Minds.com, there are others in the works.

I'm currently trying to find out if Kim Dotcom's "Alternative Internet" plan is progressing. He seemed determined up to last year, but I haven't seen much on it since this...

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Definitely google, facebook, Comcast and the other handful of Internet behemoths have near monopoly power and too close ties to the government. Facebook and google in particular are destroying journalism and the music industry, because they profit from free content. Google has the ability to filter out copyrighted material; they choose not to. Why should they? They make money from others' content!

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