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The liberal idea has become obsolete: Vladimir Putin

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Mr President, you head for Osaka shortly as the senior statesman at the G20. Nobody has been to so many international meetings of this grouping and the G7 over the last 20 years while you have been in charge of Russia. Before we talk about the G20 agenda and what you hope to achieve, we know that there are rising tensions between America and China in trade, the risk of conflict in the Gulf. 

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In my run for U.S. Senate against Utah's Orrin Hatch, I posted many progressive ideas and principles that I internalized over the years. I'm leaving that site up indefinitely, since it describes what I believe most members of our species truly (more...)
 

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So much is said about Vladimir Putin, but it continues to astound me how few people actually listen to him.

I've watched dozens of videos and never fail to come away impressed. I won't offer my opinion beyond that, except to say "Must Read" and "Please do."

Submitted on Saturday, Jun 29, 2019 at 7:17:05 PM

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Extraordinary exceptional effective diplomat, singer of Blueberry Hill. introduction

of Putin's akita to Japanese journalists, amazing HUMAN.

Submitted on Saturday, Jun 29, 2019 at 8:41:01 PM

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It seems that what Putin means by "liberalism" is actually multiculturalism.

I tend to agree with him, and I have been arguing a similar point at OEN for years, and getting accused of being un-progressive as a result.

When cultures mix in a society, if there is a disparity in economic ability, whether of those immigrating or those established, expecially if that disparity is combined with distinct racial characteristics, or a determination by an immigrant culture to remain apart or aloof, it is a dangerous situation that will likely foster racist/extremist sentiments. It gave Hitler to Germany, and it has given Trump to the U.S.

The liberal idea expressed in "give them all a path to citizenship", however sweet the sentiment, has to be balanced with "to whatever extent the native-born population is not disadvantaged" -- or else good intentions now will inevitably turn to bad regressions later.

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I am of course a multiculturalist, having worked with kids from around the world in education. But I hestiate to use what I see as fuzzy terms.


PCR just put up a piece on this. I think he oversimplifies it.


My view summarized is one spiecies, one planet, same fate. What the f are we waiting for?

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I agree. But if more weight is given to the recognition that we need to stop exploiting people in other countries, and actually invest in helping to build their economies to self-sustaining levels, then the realization that we can't let a billion people come to live here doesn't fall so hard.

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Spot on.

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I believe you are notjustapretty face, Jim. Hot enough in n calif for a cold beer?

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I'm a veryveryprettyface, thank you. NoCal is very mild right now. Cmon over. We've got lotsa craft beers!

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I've searched and searched but I can not find it anywhere. Surely it's out there somewhere if we are to believe what we are being asked to believe! I mean any public figure with the shelf life displayed by Putin and with all the public words and appearances committed to the record that the job entails, will have a collection of unfortunate moments. You know, tantrums, poorly chosen words that reveal their inner psychopath, brain farts that they wish they could take back... Some might say that his iron grip on the output of his nation's media insulates him from such embarrassment... But he is an operator on the world stage in front of a global and deeply antagonistic opinion management mechanism in the form of the Western mainstream media. If anyone would show us the evidence of his despotic unreasonableness I think we could "trust" them to do it... They would put his slightest slip-up on a loop for an entire news cycle and trot it out weekly to remind us, in case we forgot what a monster we were facing. You know I'm right.. And yet... All I see is a consummate, old school statesman and a spectacularly effective leader of a staggeringly complex federation during a time of historic, even existential challenge. Now to be sure, I don't think he is a cuddly exemplar of the moral high ground. There are many examples of hard and objectionable internal policy in Putin's Russia, but we can't cast any stones on that count. If anything his problematic approaches to certain minorities and to press freedoms brings him closer to our "leaders" subterranean bar and makes him look more "normal". Please would someone post some juicy stuff of Putin being unreasonable in public, or rude and dismissive of a difficult question from a pesky journo. And I don't mean any of the many examples of him taking a baiting shill posing as a western "journalist" to task. Those instances of calling out bad journalism only make me think more highly of him, and I know I'm not alone in my reaction there.

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Agreed, 100%.


That Rachel Madcow is a turd floating in the punch bowl is bad enough; that she is actually listened to makes me ill.

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My one concern with him, however, is a major one. He seems fairly oblivious to climate change, when one of his own top scientists, Natalia Shakova click here points out what is going on with methane release.

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