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In 'Jaw-Dropping' interview, Malaysian PM Says 'No Evidence' Russia Shot Down MH17

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In a frontal, long overdue, challenge to the Western narrative, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has questioned the evidence, or the lack of it, behind the 'authoritative' report on the tragic downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 in 2014 while flying over war-torn Eastern Ukraine. He criticized the Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team (JIT) for its lack of neutrality and political motivations 'concentrated on trying to pin it on the Russians'.

Speaking to reporters at the Japanese Foreign Correspondents Club (FCCJ) in Tokyo on Thursday, the Malaysian leader asked: “They are accusing Russia but where is the evidence?”  

The Malaysian PM went so far as to suggest Ukrainian pro-government forces could be the culprits: “It could be by the rebels in Ukraine; it could be Ukrainian government because they too have the same missile.” 

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This is a sensational development, coming as it does from the head of government of the country to which the plane belonged. It won't be easy to bury this in the back pages. But am sure Western governments and their lackey media which have been promoting the 'Russia did it' narrative assiduously for years will not be found wanting in their resolve. Australian media is already calling Mahathir a conspiracy theorist. Considering how many conspiracy theories are proving right, his statements should be taken very seriously.

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That is the way that Western propaganda works. First it is alleged, then it becomes a "fact", then it is repeated thousands of times. No matter what evidence, or lack of, comes out later the propaganda will continue to live on in the msm, and burned into the public's mind. Thus, Russia shot down MH17, Putin invaded Georgia and Ukraine, poisoned the Skripal's with novichok, Assad used chemical weapons on his own people, and Putin personally murders journalists and "meddled in our democracy".

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Tell me about it, David. What strikes me as extraordinary is the number of people swallowing the mainstream narrative pills the way they down opioids. Am not sure how many are paid cybertrooper trolls, but I see far too many comments on other forums taking up the MSM view and ridiculing the victims and exposers. Recalls this quip I came across recently: "In the 60's, people took drugs to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take antidepressants to make it normal."

It is hard for sane people to imagine the trumpeters of democracy and human rights could be capable of such a diabolic act as shooting down a passenger plane carrying a majority of people from their own countries. I suppose this is small potatoes compared to 9/11.

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Greetings, oh more disillusioned one than ever - i've received information of even

greater magnitude. An ex-CIA fellow said any Boeing plane has a built-in electronic

device that make the craft subject to remote control from a near other aircraft (in

this instance two following small Israeli-operated) which controlled MH-17 to fly

over the Ukraine where they then shot it down to blame its crash on Russia. In these

recent 737-MAX-8 crashes the same occurred in order to kill only one passenger

on each. Being a full-blown conspiracy theorist, myself, i used up my entire house-

hold content of sodium chloride to shrink the tale.


Tell me discreetly, how doth the Ramani-Mona family urvive thee days. Not informed

how doeth the Canadian members with Justin? Do you hear of Yves Engler?

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If you have a source for evidence of above, please post it

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This is what I have found. None of these links come up on a search on any search engine except duckduckgo.

.rt.com/news/310039-mh17-israeli-missile-version/

.abeldanger.org/the-downing-of-mh17-is-israel-involved/


.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/211388

click here

click here

(youtube video wiped out by google)

.liveleak.com/view?t=417_1405700954




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Lila, Perfect research. This perfectly puts my info right on target.


And following with 370 777.

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I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FAITH and courage to pass this on yet

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With DARPA now going all in to induct autonomous AI into weaponry, anything is possible, Nels.

Perhaps because MH17 was brought down in the center of a conflict zone, which is the West's frontline against Russia, it has received widespread media coverage. People forget Malaysia Airlines lost a similar aircraft under no less dramatic but far more mysterious circumstances just four months earlier. MH370, also a Boeing 777, was lost with all 227 passengers and crew of 12 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014. To this day, no confirmed debris of the aircraft have been found despite intense and protracted searches in the Indian Ocean for years. Mahathir Mohamad, who was not Prime Minister at the time (though he was earlier for 22 years from 1981 to 2003 as Malaysia's longest serving PM), made this startling statement: "Boeing and certain agencies have the capacity to take over uninterruptible control of commercial airliners of which MH370 B777 is one."

We really do not know what technical capabilities aircraft manufacturers possess today and to what extent these are publicly acknowledged. We do know, however, Boeing also produces war planes and sophisticated air weaponry. Many analysts have contested the official investigation's finding that MH17 was brought down by a Buk missile, asserting (with photographic evidence) it was shot down by a fighter jet. No one to my knowledge has yet explored the possibility either of these two scenarios could have been 'assisted' by other means.

Which takes me to the top of the class among conspiracy theorists! I am in illustrious company now though, with a man I hold in high esteem for his extraordinary courage and forthrightness -- at the age of 94!!

PS: Apologies for the hold up with the personal update. I shall respond to your mail later today.

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The presstitutes really have a coronary every time someone says "Russia didn't" anything, don't they?!

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It's about time for some truth here. The Russians both in eastern Ukraine and the Russians themselves had no reason to shoot down a Malaysian jumbo jet. They were winning the battle against ukrainian troops. Why give the US a chance to orchestrate a European campaign against them? Answer: no reason.

Meanwhile, while the Western media and especially US media have been gleefully reporting every unproven claim by the US that "Russia did it," there has been no evidence presented. In fact stupid stuff, like saying the Buk missile was known to have been Russian made are cited, when that proves nothing. The Ukrainian military got those Buks when they and the Ukraine were still part of the old Soviet Union. The so called "impartial" investigation run by the Dutch took info from Ukraine's corrupt intelligence forces, but refused even radar and communication recordings offered by Russia, Ukraine also had a veto over any of the investigation's conclusions. It's clear that Ukraine was behing that downing.

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... and there were witnesses, filmed by the BBC and broadcast - briefly. before the video was removed. the witnesses saw fighter jets - some saw one, some saw two. add to this that within 8 hours and with no investigation whatsoever, Putin's face was on the cover of every newspaper and magazine in the US and Europe as Satan, the man who shot down a passenger jet. The PR was so instantaneous and well orchestrated that claims made in the above links that Israel was behind it make more sense to me.

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The official narrative didn't so much blame Russia per se but did blame the Novorussian rebels, using totally fabricated evidence.

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It still astounds me that Americans can be so utterly gullible. Atta's passport neatly placed on top of the ash and rubble of the trade towers, Putin's face on the magazine covers prior to any investigation. I mean how much brain power is required to get that it is propaganda. not much.

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The "general mentality" even fails to notice how instantly the narratives for everything come out. The "explanations" for most "events" are always "ready to go" pretty much the same days these things happen. The "perps" and their "radicalized missions" are always identified immediately.

People don't even see the trouble with such quick conclusions. It doesn't occur to them that these things should require some investigation and that they shouldn't be getting any such "findings" for a much longer period of time.

It's really quite remarkable.

When the narrative is delivered so fast that it appears to have been already sitting on a shelf, waiting for its moment, that's because it WAS written in advance.

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