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Facebook BANS Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos and other far-right extremists from for violating violence policies

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The move comes as the social-media giant has been criticized for its failure to curb the spread of misinformation, as well as hateful and extremist content, on the site.  'We've always banned individuals or organizations that promote or engage in violence and hate, regardless of ideology,' a Facebook spokesperson told CNN. 'The process for evaluating potential violators is extensive and it is what led us to our decision to remove these accounts today.' 

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If these social media companies are really so concerned with "curbing the spread of misinformation, violence inciting and extremist content", how is it that nobody in the American government, or in the MSM, is losing their social media accounts??

You've got Marco Rubio freely inciting violence against the Venezuelan government. You've got Pompeo, Abrams, Bolton and Trump constantly bad-mouthing everyone in every corner of the globe, in a dangerous version of online harassment/bullying. And you've got the MSM, which also gets away with posting every lie conceivable.

The endless lies are blatant, harmful and daily while these people also get to call for the censorship of others. If I had a choice, I'd sooner see these people get silenced than to go after someone who is supposedly seen as a simple "conspiracy nutjob".

The disproportion in this censorship movement is simply telling, and it has nothing to do with honourable intentions. The U.S. government gets to flood the system with whatever propaganda it wishes, and millions of hapless people soak it up, while all questions and dissent are dutifully tossed in the name of "combating fake news".

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I substantially agree, but I do think the article describes a "step in the right direction."


Will all of these inevitably lead to cracking down on the left to bollix up the Democratic primary and put the kibosh on Bernie supporters again like Facebook went along with in the 2016 election? We can only hope not.



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My point really was, censorship of ANY kind is simply NOT a "step in the right direction". It's the road to tyranny.

People need to filter the information available ON THEIR OWN, and ALL information, regardless of what anyone thinks about it, should be released.

If the "fact checkers" and the "think tanks" and all the other "authoritarian" measures were completely removed from the equation, and Free Speech was actually the real law of the land, bad information wouldn't survive and media organizations could start telling the truth again.

It is the very idea that censorship had any purpose that has caused the mess we're in now. And, preventing people from thinking for themselves has helped dumb down the masses.

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If we were to ban Zionists and neocon artists, there wouldn't be much "news" left. I'd start with Zuckerberg if I were forced to start banning. But obviously no need to worry there...

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The censors have been busy.

As I mentioned in another comment, Chris Hedges has warned about inverted totalitarianism. The repression, censorship, and threat to democracy is from giant corporations that can dominate the political space.

The government gets corporations to do the dirty work, and vice versa.

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As nice and as politically correct as that sounds, I must say that after many years of vast experience with Facebook and the more than one thousand groups that I am in, almost all of which are either for Bernie or in other ways "left leaning," I really don't feel that Facebook or any other social media is doing the "government's dirty work," not at all.


I write relatively "radical" articles and then blast them all over Facebook. Only occasionally have I felt anything resembling censorship, and in all fairness, it is probably the result of volume posting and volume group sharing, rather than censorship per se.


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Well, it's good that Facebook hasn't felt the urge to censor you... yet. I'm happy for ya. The thousands that have lost their platforms undeservedly, however, would probably have a much different response to you.

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There but for fortune go you or I...


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Stephen's experience does not surprise me.

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Since the day Julian Assange was illegally removed from the Ecuadorian Embassy I have been trying to post articles and essays about defending him. More than twenty essays about Julian and Chelsea Manning are floating in cyberspace because Facebook will not allow me to post them. Google+ just dumped all of us prols but they did warn us we were being deleted. It has become impossible for me even to share many excellent articles from OpEdNews either.

I am guessing this is what censorship feels like.

Anybody got another place I can go to spread real news?

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As far as I know, none of the people recently banned have ever advocated violence, and that's the only reason I might agree to censor speech.

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Perhaps one or two of them are willing and able to go to court.

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