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Exxon predicted in 1982 exactly how high global carbon emissions would be today

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Not only did Exxon predict the rise in emissions, it also understood how severe the consequences would be. 

According to an internal 1982 document from Exxon Research and Engineering Company — obtained by InsideClimate News as part of its 2015 investigation into what Exxon knew about the impact of fossil fuels on climate change — the company was modeling out the concentration of carbon emissions several years into the future.

Despite this knowledge, the company chose not to change or adapt its business model. Instead, it chose to invest heavily in disinformation campaigns that promoted climate-science denial, failing to disclose its knowledge that the majority of the world’s fossil-fuel reserves must remain untapped in order to avert catastrophic climate change.

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Thanks for that, David. The Exxon document shows that the company was taking the greenhouse gas theory seriously, while sensibly recognizing that it was not established fact. The document includes relevant projections, but it's a mistake to say Exxon knew the impact. (Nobody knows the outcome of a projection, even with a crystal ball.)

The ThinkProgress article says "Never before in human history has there been so much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The last time scientists believe it may have been this high was 2.5 to 5 million years ago during the Pliocene epoch, when sea levels were 25 meters higher than today and global temperatures were warmer by 2-3 degrees Celsius." If true, that clearly demonstrates that there's no link between atmospheric carbon dioxide and temperature. How can the CO2 thermostat theory still be respected?

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Ok, Exxon did not "Know." But that is what they thought was the case -- which turned out to be true -- and yet they made no change to their disinformation program and continued to extract fossil fuels out of the ground to be burned which resulted in more CO2 being released into the atmosphere causing increased global warming they knew would happen.

"Never before in human history has there been so much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The last time scientists believe it may have been this high was 2.5 to 5 million years ago during the Pliocene epoch, when sea levels were 25 meters higher than today and global temperatures were warmer by 2-3 degrees Celsius."

Not sure why you think that means there is "no link between atmospheric carbon dioxide and temperature." There are other things that come into play like solar radiation and earth wobble. But the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is clearly the key factor in driving temperatures higher. So I am not sure why you think there is no link.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "which turned out to be true", because so far the "severe consequences" are based somewhat on the computer model projections but then disturbingly exaggerated by activists and politicians. Weather records don't show any cause for the alarm they preach.

As for the lack of a CO2-temperature link, that's clearly implied by the passage I quoted from the article. It says CO2 levels in that ancient time were as high as today, but temps and sea levels were much higher. It's a strong reason for a thinking person to say "What the heck! Are you trying to confuse me!" :-)

I don't know how anyone can call that correlated. But then few people actually understand science or even read reports. Thus we get wild claims instead of fact. We're living in pretty loony times. I only hope critical thinking can make a reappearance.

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