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Delay, Deny and Deflect: How Facebook's Leaders Fought Through Crisis (A Brilliant and Thorough Analysis!)

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EXCERPTS: Mrs. Sandberg's top Republican target was Mr. Burr, whose Senate committee’s Russia investigation had chugged along. The two spoke by phone, according to a congressional staff member and a Facebook executive, and met in person this fall. While critics cast Facebook as a serial offender that had ignored repeated warning signs about the dangers posed by its product, Ms. Sandberg argued that the company was grappling earnestly with the consequences of its extraordinary growth.

Facebook lobbyists had already worked the Intelligence Committee hard, asking that lawmakers refrain from questioning Ms. Sandberg about privacy issues, Cambridge Analytica and censorship. The argument was persuasive with Mr. Burr, who was determined to avoid a circuslike atmosphere. A day before the hearing, he issued a stern warning to all committee members to stick to the topic of election interference.

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I refuse to believe for one second that the whole Facebook-Government "confrontation" was anything more than mutually-scripted theater designed to mislead the Public.

The State wants its censorship, surveillance and mass profiling of social network users. It needs parties outside the legal confines of the Constitution to execute this for them.

Facebook is one of those willing outside parties, and is now functioning as an arm of the State, under the guise of "private company privilege".

The only "crisis" Facebook is facing is the inevitable exodus of users who are sick of the whole thing. This is starting to happen now.

Leave it to the NYT to keep painting the whole thing as Facebook needing to defend itself from authority.

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Believe what you wish.


I think the key point is that this was a six month investigation by 5 fine journalists.


Their front page article goes a long way to restoring some of the respect that the NY Times used to enjoy.



Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg responds to NYT story CNBC's Julia Boorstin reports on a conference call with Facebook about a New York Times piece that alleged the company mismanaged the Russian campaign ...
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It's not a matter of "believing what I want". It's a matter of recognizing how a "report" is structured, evidenced (qualified), and presented.

As usual, the whole purpose of the NYT "investigation" is, quite obviously, to keep the government narrative alive, and deflect our attention away from how the State is co-opting Facebook to circumvent the rights of the People.

All the fingers are pointed at Facebook, and the evidence-free "Russian meddling" story is continually thrown around as if it were actually a thing. And, the government is painted as the diligent examiner.

All this piece does is reinforce the fact that the NYT can be counted on to create, promote and parrot government propaganda, and your "5 fine journalists" are contributing to that.

Unless journalists start proving there really is a RussiaGate, they shouldn't be using it as a "given". So far, all we're getting is, "they did it". Respectable journalism doesn't build a story around a strawman. For that reason alone, the piece was sensationalist, at best.

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I don't agree with your conclusions at all. If you wish to dismiss all the hard work of five NY Times Journalists over six months, no problem: that is what I meant by "Believe what you want."


Almost all journalists pride themselves as NOT being in the employ of any government and have varying strong degrees of keen interest in getting to the truth.


I also do not believe that any of the Russia Meddling crap has any merit or any real relevance, speaking from personal experience.



I started a FB political group with 5000 members, and when I got tired of deleting the obviously fake news in the primary period in 2016, in the spring, I just kicked out all of the Russians, Serbs, and Macedonians (the Macedonians were actually the worst, and it seemed like their b.s. was all coming out of some GRU/KGB boiler room basement in Moscow, which in fact turned out to be a whole building in St. Petersburg!~~~~~the old Russian "TROLL FACTORY" producing the dumbest Fake News you could imagine).



Building known as 'Troll Factory' linked to fake social media (17 Feb 2018) A building which formerly housed the Russian Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg has been linked to fake social media posts.
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You're puzzling me here, Stephen.

If you don't believe the RussiaGate narrative, why would you find any value in a report that promotes it?

And what of these "trolls" you speak of? How do you know where they really come from? There's a helluva lot of spoofing going on in the "influence" game - much of it planted by people on this side of the ocean. You can't possibly know who you're kicking out.

As for MSM journalists: They may like to say they're not "in the employ of government", and some may even believe that themselves, but when they're in the employ of any of the 6 media conglomerates that own it all, they still tow the line for their masters. Preserving the government narratives are Job #1 for them. Truth be damned - it has nothing to do with their product.

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The NY Times article is about far more than "Russiagate." It is just as its title suggests about how Facebook denied, delayed, and deflected in so many realms.


I have had vast personal experience in that regard, so it very much resonated with me. I am continually aghast to see a corporation of this size that has no phone number and no visible emails, whose Board of Directors and whose Executives never respond to ordinary people with perfectly reasonable very serious questions. Read my article on this, please, coming out soon.


"Russiagate" is what you seemed to principally focused on, but I am not. I think it is much ado about nothing, another tempest in the teapot, something for politicians from both parties to bloviate on, but in fact is very inconsequential.

I remain, nonetheless, a big fan of Facebook and how in general it has benefited my wing of the Democratic party. Beto, for example!


Maybe Democracy Now could clarify this more of this a bit for you?



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Sure, Facebook is like every other behemoth company. It only admits to what suits the situation to admit. That's not my issue here.

But, the whole idea that they are somehow "dodging" some non-existent "responsibility" to help "protect America" from some non-existent "Russian conspiracy" is what I'm banging on about. That's the strawman I'm talking about.

It's that strawman they're supposedly "delaying, denying, and deflecting". Most of the "investigative points" rely on this false premise. When not deflecting accusations of allowing Russian interference, they're deflecting accusations of failing to control the flow of "fake news". It's all relative.

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You mentioned how Facebook doesn't have any meaningful ways to contact them directly. I find that with all these monster companies today. And, even when you supposedly have a phone number or e-mail addy, it doesn't get you what you need.

I'm sure you're aware of what my stance on Facebook is. I'm done with Facebook, for more reasons than lack of contact methods. And, I'm absolutely sure that, in the future, you're going to be looking for a new platform as well, as Facebook is setting itself up for a big fall, with the State ready to push them over when the time comes.

I do thank you for posting the video, but I'm definitely done with the MSM as well.

I think this is a case of "either you see it, or you don't".

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