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Problems With Psychiatry's DSM-5; A Conversation with Allen Frances, M.D.

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Broadcast 1/5/2016 at 2:13 PM EST (3 Listens, 6 Downloads, 2005 Itunes)
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Allen Frances, M.D., was chair of the DSM-IV Task Force and of the department of psychiatry at Duke University School of Medicine, Durham, NC. He is currently professor emeritus at Duke.

Rough interview Notes

What is the DSM 4, DSM5 why are they important

What was your experience that got you in charge of DSM 4?

HOw many billions of dollars will big Pharma depend on DSM5

Seven percent of population is addicted to prescription drugs.

You've written about your problems with the research-- quality concerns"

Huge false positive rate.

Medication response".

any year 20% of population have psychiatric diagnosis

Lifetime 50%

25% of the 20% are severe diagnosis.

83% of kids, by age 21 will qualify for mental disorder".

Worst diagnoses in terms of stigmatizing people are"

Going on a psychiatric medication should be considered as seriously as who you marry. So how do people become smart consumers-- especially when they are suffering, have gone to their GP and have been offered some free samples and a prescription for a psychiatric disorder?

Drug industry spends $30 billion a year in advertising.

Consumers shouldn't trust the commercials.

I understand that in other countries, medications are not as highly emphasized" and

Rates of child bipolar disorder diagnosis have jumped 40 times.

Result has been an enormous overuse of drugs in kids.

One of the worst fads in psychiatric diagnosis

Being put on psychiatric medications can reduce your lifespan.

What percent of the people being put on anti-psychotics don't need them?

20% of anxiety disorders are being put on anti-psychotics.

IF someone is put on a medication they don't need, what are the adverse side effects, the iatrogenic effects?

Xanax over prescribed in primary care.

Narcotic Prescription medications-- in many cases replacing street narcotics.A huge problem in the military. 8%, about 110,000 are on psychotropic drugs.

What about kids being put on stimulant drugs for ADHD?

IF you medicate a kid with anti ADD stimulants, there are risks as well.

30% of college kids and 10% of high school kids have used someone else's stimulant medications.

What are the worst psychiatric diagnosis fads?

How will the expansion of diagnoses and psychiatric prescriptions change the American Culture?

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization (more...)

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