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Chris Vogler; Can There Be Blockbuster Movies and Stories Using an Occupy/Bottom Up/Horizontal "Collective" Hero?

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Last week I wrote a review of The Avengers from an Occupy point of view, raising the question of whether it would be possible to make movies with heroes who are bottom up/horizontal, manifesting the values of Occupy Wall Street. 

That got me thinking of the hero's Journey and Chris Vogler's Writer's Journey, which is a must read book, for writers, on applying the Hero's Journey to stories. You could say that Chris wrote "THE BOOK" on movie heroes.

So I got in touch with Chris and interviewed.
He thinks it's doable. 
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What an idea-- movies that make the people who rise up or wake up or come together the hero. 
There are bits and pieces of a movie like this that have been done, which makes it more possible. 
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Christopher Vogler   is a Hollywood development executive best known for his guide for screenwriters, The Writer's Journey: Mythic Structure For Writers. His newest book is titled Memo From the Story Department. 

Vogler has worked for Disney studios, Fox 2000 pictures, and Warner Bros. in the development department. He has also taught in the USC School of Cinema-Television, Division of Animation and Digital Arts as well as at UCLA extension. He is President of the company Storytech Literary Consulting.
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Rough interview notes-- primarily the questions I asked. 

http://www.thewritersjourney.com

American movie model is usually about one person who can make a difference

The very idea of what a hero is will shift from one culture to another culture. 

In some, it's the community or family working together. 

We have some stories like that-- 

Three Musketeers

But it's a little more come in some parts of the world. 

   In general--- 

In Asia, often in India, the myths will have individuals, but may also have stories". about the gang, the team, the brotherhood. 

You can see it in Lord of the Rings-- building something, this team, the fellowship of the ring. 

Rob: It's complicated because of the steps the mythic hero goes through. You think it's a viable story that could be developed?

Chris-- more than that I think it could be really powerful. 

Chris gives the Classic Hero's journey description

Rob: There are archetypes associated with the hero's journey. What are they, starting with the hero?

Rob:  How would that look for a group?

Rob:What's the next most important archetype?

-- the relationship between hero and mentor"

threshold guardians-- 

trickster, shapeshifter, shadow, ally

Rob: what's the chance of a collective hero major movie being made.

Rob: To make this kind of movie, you have to start with a great story, that readers or viewers can empathize with and be drawn into the story trance.


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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites, OpEdNews.com

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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