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December 4, 2012

Exclusive: Rob Kall Interviews Noam Chomsky: America in Decline, US Operating Procedures for Blocking Democracy

By Rob Kall

a wide-ranging conversation with Noam Chomsky, my second. We discussed the decline of the US, the game plan the US has used when friendly dictators lose power, about the media, the economy, economics, civilization...

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The transcript of this interview is here.

World-renowned political activist, linguist, cognitive scientist, philosopher author, MIT Professor emeritus Noam Chomsky.

Interview rough notes-- mostly the questions asked.

Objectivity vs reality?

What's your take on the media today. What's your take on how it is now and how it could be?

"US deficit-- solved by health care reform-- is an international scandal."

 in the face of looming collapse, how can we save our civilization? 

do you see a model that works in the future-- be it capitalism or something else?

And you referred to the idea that intelligence can be lethal-- Ernst Mayr's theory-- in referring to global warming. Do you see a future that we survive in?

You've said you have to learn the fundamental science that's going to be applicable to whatever comes along next. And the same thing pretty much happened in medicine needing biology and engineering needing physics. How about with Economics? An you said, "Well, unification is kind of an intuitive ideal, part of the scientific mystique, if you like. It's that you're trying to find a unified theory of the world. Now maybe there isn't one, maybe different parts work in different ways, but your assumption is until I'm proven wrong definitively, I'll assume that there's a unified account of the world, and it's my task to try to find it."  And you talk about the complexity of systems, how they are modular"

How do economics and marketing fit in?

In your Atlantic interview with Yarden Katz, you said, 

"At some point in human evolution, and it's apparently pretty recent given the archeological record -- maybe last hundred thousand years,  a computational system emerged with had new properties, that other organisms don't have, that has kind of arithmetical type properties... "

Leonard Shlain and Walter Ong-- talk about writing and the Gutenberg press. 

and the internet and Occupy Wall street. 

Can you talk about the Transition from hunter gather to agriculture, to city and civilization to corporatization". and the future of civilization"

In your Interview with Amy Goodman. titled Who Owns the World You talk about America in Decline:

 "The decline is real, but it's not new. It's been going on since 1945. In fact, it happened very quickly. In the late 1940s, there's an event that's known here as "the loss of China.""--  And you talk about how the "Vietnam War was fought primarily to ensure that an independent Vietnam would not develop successfully and become a model for other countries in the region. " And how, ""In the last 10 years the South American countries have begun to move towards independence and a degree of integration." And you say  the Arab Spring is another such threat. It threatens to take that big region out of the grand arena. That's a lot more significant than Southeast Asia or South America.  "So far, the threat of the Arab Spring has been pretty well contained. "We managed to ensure that the threat of democracy would be smashed in the most important places."

 Finally, you spoke about, how, "in Egypt, the United States followed a standard operating procedure when one of your favorite dictators gets into trouble." Now that's very interesting. Can you describe that procedure?

How about Gaza? How is the balance changing with Qatar now providing funding as well as Iran? What do we do?

You're Jewish, I'm Jewish. Apologists for Israel say that Israel takes Gazans to Deborah Hospital and why should they put up with the rain of bombs?



Authors Bio:

Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect,
connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media.


Check out his platform at RobKall.com


He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity


He's given talks and workshops to Fortune
500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered
first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and
Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful
people on his Bottom Up Radio Show,
and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and
opinion sites, OpEdNews.com


more detailed bio:


Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project.


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Rob was published regularly on the Huffingtonpost.com for several years.


Rob is, with Opednews.com the first media winner of the Pillar Award for supporting Whistleblowers and the first amendment.


To learn more about Rob and OpEdNews.com, check out A Voice For Truth - ROB KALL | OM Times Magazine and this article.


For Rob's work in non-political realms mostly before 2000, see his C.V.. and here's an article on the Storycon Summit Meeting he founded and organized for eight years.


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