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Should Obama Pull an LBJ and Withdraw His Candidacy for 2012

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Should Obama Pull an LBJ and Withdraw His Candidacy for 2012

     LBJ withdrew from the presidential election, deciding not to run for a second term. Bobby Kennedy probably would have won that election if he had not been assassinated. 


Carter didn't withdraw, and on top of that, Reagan cut his October Surprise deal with the Iranian Mullahs. Maybe if Carter had resigned, Teddy Kennedy could have won. 

Some have talked about primarying Obama. A cleaner, less messy approach would be for Obama to simply withdraw his name from the race. 

Should Obama, with his polling so low, his support among liberal and progressive democrats deeply flagging, withdraw from the 2012 Presidential race, opening it up for a fresh candidate? 

No. Obama should run for a second term
       21% from 78 votes  
Yes. Obama should withdraw from the 2012 Presidential race.
       74% from 270 votes  
not sure
       5% from 18 votes  

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I REALLY like this idea!  I like to fantasize... by AAA AAA on Thursday, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:27:12 PM
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Draft Dennis Kucinich!... by Rev. Chet Guinn on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:22:24 AM
and  definitely not a corporate toady. ... by zon moy on Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:21:19 PM
have been very educational!  We have had a go... by Mary Pitt on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55:20 AM
More and more people are saying: Democrats al... by Rob Kall on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:35:28 PM
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, then... by Michael Shaw on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:52:30 PM
Then why print Reich's recent article, Rob?  ... by Miles Mathis on Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:53:58 AM
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the Democratic Party should not run any candidate ... by mrk * on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:43:07 PM
Sanders has the courage, knowledge and experience ... by Marvin Wagner on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:54:59 PM
I can pronounce O'bama. (R)I can pronounce St. San... by Greg Campbell on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:27:56 PM
how about Sanders/Kucinich ? If you're gonna dream... by comncents on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:51:52 AM
click here... by Michael Shaw on Friday, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:53:36 PM
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one corporate shill with another. I mean REALLY!We... by comncents on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 2:23:23 AM
   Elizabeth Warren is the only person i... by Gerard Ange' on Saturday, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:07:49 PM
...Elizabeth Warren is right up there at the top o... by Sheila Samples on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:43:13 PM
President Obama may seem to be in hot water with l... by Richard Hover on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:29:23 AM
There's plenty of valid third party candidates to ... by AAA AAA on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:01:31 PM
This poll, being on a blog which is frequented by ... by Ralph Long on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:29:35 PM
That assumes there is no electronic vote fraud, no... by AAA AAA on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:04:43 PM
Regardless of our opinion of Mr. Obama, we should ... by Ralph Dratman on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:58:39 PM
Hilary possibly may have earned a soft spot, after... by Greg Campbell on Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:16:44 PM
It does not matter who, or when, or what. AWAKE yo... by Faith Carr on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:42:13 AM
I wish Obama would withdraw, Dennis Kucinich (DK) ... by David Mynott II on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:26:31 AM
He will have to explain what happened on that Air ... by Faith Carr on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:53:41 AM
He is not going to withdraw and none of the other ... by Kevin Gallagher on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:43:15 AM
Ron suffers from what other progressives suffer.MS... by Greg Campbell on Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 2:18:47 PM
President Obama has always, in my estimation, been... by Carol Jensen on Friday, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:58:11 AM
Yes, absolutely, Obama should resign!  It is ... by Walter J Smith on Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:32:52 PM
6 months ago I would have agreed with the majority... by Thomas Brown on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:55:27 AM
What you've just said shows that you're not dealin... by Jill Herendeen on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:59:48 AM
But I'm not sure how this relates to the question?... by Thomas Brown on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:10:53 PM
If I may be so bold, that Obama is the right wing ... by AAA AAA on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:37:49 PM
current election reality.   But w/ ... by Jill Herendeen on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:19:24 PM
Obama was, in essence, a republican plant. Their p... by Ginger McClemons on Thursday, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:01:44 AM
When you assert something as being a fact, instead... by Sherwin Steffin on Thursday, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:51:43 PM
Perhaps you missed the following facts:1.  Ob... by AAA AAA on Thursday, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:29:41 PM
I've believed for most of my adult life that no ma... by Thomas Brown on Thursday, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:56:09 PM
[[cartoon]]... by Ginger McClemons on Thursday, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:30:57 AM
And he has been by his own inability to believe th... by CarmanK on Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:42:04 AM
Wow.  That's high.  It shows that a lot ... by Miles Mathis on Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:42:44 AM

 
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